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Old 07-11-2013, 10:55 PM   #1
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2013 1 LT vs 2009 Chevy Cobalt SS

My 2013 1LT v6 camaro or the

2009 Chevy Cobalt SS or 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged

I wasn't sure what year it was, but it pulled up to me on the highway last night on the way home from work want to race... Would this have been an even match or his favor?!?!?
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:03 PM   #2
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cobalt might get you from a pull if stock, if it has the gm stage 1 kit or mods not a chance
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:00 AM   #3
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I didn't think they were that fast.
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If it's the LNF turbo Cobalt, you have no chance from any roll. Period.

They can hit 300+ whp(equivalent to about 350-360 hp at the crank) with just an HP tune.

With bolt ons and tune 320-330 whp, with e85 340-360 whp. on stock turbo.

My friend's cobalt traps 111 mph with downpipe, short ram intake, and Trifecta tune.
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LSJ stock do mid-high 14's @ 97-99 mph, well at least mag times... All the ones I have seen at the track run 15's. LSJ is the supercharged one.
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I had a stage two cobalt LSJ, zzp single pass heat exchanger, front mount cobra heat exchanger, intake, and full exhaust. Rape was the word I used vs a v6 camaro.
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:56 AM   #7
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I had a stage two cobalt LSJ, zzp single pass heat exchanger, front mount cobra heat exchanger, intake, and full exhaust. Rape was the word I used vs a v6 camaro.
My friend has a 04 Saturn Ion Redline running the factory M62. He has a ZZP 2.7" pulley, AEM short ram intake, ZZP Intercooler, ZZP dual pass, 60lb injectors, meth injection, ZZP long tube catless header, custom catback and a stage 2 clutch and a decent tune. I drove it a few times it moves pretty well I would say.

His tuner tuned a few LNFs before he tuned his on the same day and a bone stock LNF gained 100wft/lbs and 60whp

A stock LSJ would run pretty close with the v6 and a stock LNF would pull a bit. Simple bolt ons + tune with the LNF and it would kill a v6.
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yeeeaaaa a cobalt is the wrong car to race for the camaro. i had a 2005 cobalt "supercharged" but i turbo swapped it and i put down 387whp on 22lbs stock block. i loved killing ss camaros much less the ls models lol with the power to weight ratio its win all aound for the cobalt. the supercharged ones put down 205-215whp stock and the turbo ones 260whp stock. the turbo balts can put down 380+wtq from bolt-ons and a tune without e-85, they are pretty nasty for what they are. i loved the facial expression people made when im passing by and waving bye at the same time lmfao!
i have a few vids from racing on youtube and that was when i first did the swap and only running 15lbs killing people.
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My friend has a 04 Saturn Ion Redline running the factory M62. He has a ZZP 2.7" pulley, AEM short ram intake, ZZP Intercooler, ZZP dual pass, 60lb injectors, meth injection, ZZP long tube catless header, custom catback and a stage 2 clutch and a decent tune. I drove it a few times it moves pretty well I would say.

His tuner tuned a few LNFs before he tuned his on the same day and a bone stock LNF gained 100wft/lbs and 60whp

A stock LSJ would run pretty close with the v6 and a stock LNF would pull a bit. Simple bolt ons + tune with the LNF and it would kill a v6.
That is exactly what I wanted to get as a setup. That thing sounds like a beats.
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yeeeaaaa a cobalt is the wrong car to race for the camaro. i had a 2005 cobalt "supercharged" but i turbo swapped it and i put down 387whp on 22lbs stock block. i loved killing ss camaros much less the ls models lol with the power to weight ratio its win all aound for the cobalt. the supercharged ones put down 205-215whp stock and the turbo ones 260whp stock. the turbo balts can put down 380+wtq from bolt-ons and a tune without e-85, they are pretty nasty for what they are. i loved the facial expression people made when im passing by and waving bye at the same time lmfao!
i have a few vids from racing on youtube and that was when i first did the swap and only running 15lbs killing people.
Have you seen the video of a stock turbo Balt putting down 12s?
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Have you seen the video of a stock turbo Balt putting down 12s?
if you go on cobaltss.net you will find a few.
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Those turbo cobolts were the only thing deserving of the SS bage at the time!
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Can I get a Pontiac GXP up to this kind of Power with a 2.0 turbo.
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Yeah you can. They share the same motor. The 08 to 10 cobalt had an LNF. Unfortunately the LNF is extremely limited in max power because of the direct injection system. I've seen power lever in the mid 400s. You need to fid some serious fueling solutions.
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Yeah you can. They share the same motor. The 08 to 10 cobalt had an LNF. Unfortunately the LNF is extremely limited in max power because of the direct injection system. I've seen power lever in the mid 400s. You need to fid some serious fueling solutions.
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That is exactly what I wanted to get as a setup. That thing sounds like a beats.
Its a pretty cool car I think. He ran my other friend's 96 M3 and it was tied. I like the set up. Way too loud though.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:33 PM   #18
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It's a shame they don't make the little inexpensive pocket rockets anymore. You could buy a brand new SRT-4 or Cobalt SS in 2005 for around 20 grand. Now the closest thing is The escort or GTi at damn near 30 grand.
I know a couple years ago I bought a 2010 Cobalt SS/TC with every option available and RPD, I paid 21K canadian out the door. The Cruze RS with the 1.4 Turbo can be had for about 24K but its no Cobalt SS/TC.
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Stock for stock, the SS/SC is a good run for the V6 with the edge going to the Cobalt IMO.

A Stock SS/TC is a better match for an SS Camaro. As a matter of fact, a Cobalt SS with full bolt ons and a tune will pull on a SS Camaro with full bolt ons and tune; sometimes even cammed Camaro's. Cobalt's are actually very impressive little cars for what they are. We work on quite a few of them here and when we are done they average about 315-330 WHP and 400-420 WTQ on the stock turbo.

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Stock for stock, the SS/SC is a good run for the V6 with the edge going to the Cobalt IMO.

A Stock SS/TC is a better match for an SS Camaro. As a matter of fact, a Cobalt SS with full bolt ons and a tune will pull on a SS Camaro with full bolt ons and tune; sometimes even cammed Camaro's. Cobalt's are actually very impressive little cars for what they are. We work on quite a few of them here and when we are done they average about 315-330 WHP and 400-420 WTQ on the stock turbo.

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Yep and it makes no sense to me why Chevy would make the Camaro worse than the Cobalt.

Similar to how SRT4s with boltons were faster than SRT8s (I think)
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Stock for stock, the SS/SC is a good run for the V6 with the edge going to the Cobalt IMO.

A Stock SS/TC is a better match for an SS Camaro. As a matter of fact, a Cobalt SS with full bolt ons and a tune will pull on a SS Camaro with full bolt ons and tune; sometimes even cammed Camaro's. Cobalt's are actually very impressive little cars for what they are. We work on quite a few of them here and when we are done they average about 315-330 WHP and 400-420 WTQ on the stock turbo.

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Yeah........ sorry man. I don't feel the same way on that. bolt on Cobalt ss vs stock camaro ss is more around that alley.
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Yeah........ sorry man. I don't feel the same way on that. bolt on Cobalt ss vs stock camaro ss is more around that alley.
You do realize a Cobalt SS turbo with e85 tune is putting down about 350 whp and 450 lb-ft in a 2800 lb car? My friend's traps 118 mph. A full bolt on SS is not even in the same league(in the real world like on the highway).

Some stock turbo Cobalt's have ran 11's too. A stock Camaro SS is not coming within a bus length of that.

Here's his dyno.

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Yeah........ sorry man. I don't feel the same way on that. bolt on Cobalt ss vs stock camaro ss is more around that alley.
Haha I knew that comment would stir up some people. It's all about power to weight my friend. Race one sometime and you will see. Those cars definitely deserve respect.

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My 2013 1LT v6 camaro or the

2009 Chevy Cobalt SS or 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged

I wasn't sure what year it was, but it pulled up to me on the highway last night on the way home from work want to race... Would this have been an even match or his favor?!?!?
Last year before the blower install there was one running me at the track. The thing was running on stock tires and sounded stock. Not sure what he had done, but he was running 12.50's at 115. I dont undersetimate those cars anymore.
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Haha I knew that comment would stir up some people. It's all about power to weight my friend. Race one sometime and you will see. Those cars definitely deserve respect.

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I have driven 2 SS/SC and 1 Ion Redline (all on the stock M62). I am aware of what a LSJ can do. As far as the LNF goes. As stated before, my friend's tuner tuned a 100% stock LNF cobalt and added 100wft/lbs and 60whp.

But your talking about a bolt on Camaro SS with a cam and a bolt on LNF cobalt. That's what I am skeptical about..... the cammed Camaro. But then the Cobalt is about 800/900lbs lighter. Those cars have earned my respect a long time ago. I would never underestimate those cars.

But yes you are right. I was not thinking about the weight of the Cobalt compared to the Camaro.
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