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Old 08-18-2013, 04:47 PM   #201
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Saving up for it now, but if problems keep happening it will be a long time. Thankfully the Mustang can be dyno tuned unlike this POS that Chevy decided to use.
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Old 08-18-2013, 05:32 PM   #202
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I thought ipf had it down
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:09 PM   #203
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Saving up for it now, but if problems keep happening it will be a long time. Thankfully the Mustang can be dyno tuned unlike this POS that Chevy decided to use.
Have you emailed Arno or IPF about it? If its the tune they have been really fast turning a tune around.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:25 PM   #204
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Sucks to see your cats basically collapsed. How did you go about gutting them if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:36 PM   #205
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Have you emailed Arno or IPF about it? If its the tune they have been really fast turning a tune around.
Yeah, need to do a dyno first and send the results to them.

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Sucks to see your cats basically collapsed. How did you go about gutting them if you don't mind me asking?
Pounded it with a very long rod to remove the center of it, then used a small crow bar to peel the rest out to the center and push them out. Took a long time to do the first one, the second one was faster since I learned tricks from the first one.
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:19 PM   #206
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this is making me sad cause of all the issues :( i wanted a IPF too
Don't let this scare you. IPF has a great track record and I still feel that nobody knows the ECM like they do.

But when you are trying to do remote tuning its pretty much a given that the tune is not going to be as nailed down as it could be if you were doing dyno tuning with a proper wideband.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:24 PM   #207
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The car barely pops but there is hesitation still. Might be getting a spark blow out now, going to switch back to my autolites but I have the gap set to 0.035". Reading the autolite plugs off my car the plug temp is correct, the discoloration is right at the bend, but I think the gap was off and the plugged cats didn't help.
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:10 PM   #208
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So what is AFR reading at the 4000 RPM and higher? Any chances your leaning out?
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:20 PM   #209
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No clue, haven't done a dyno yet and I don't have a wideband. I asked earlier if I could put a wideband in one of the rear o2 sensor ports instead of welding into my headers.

I had too much break at once, the manifold and the cats. Plugs are probably worn from overheating, which would explain being fine the first day but getting worse except during certain conditions.

IPF guys are doing their best to help, should be good soon.
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:26 PM   #210
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BTW Baylor, my wife loves your signature, she is a Texan also and she hates OU.
haha actually it's an inside joke. As I was getting this sig made PQ (an OU fan) said I needed to have the OU logo on my sig and someone else said it needed to say "sucks" on it. So that's why it has "OU Sucks" on my sig. I actually don't mind OU. I just dislike Texas A&M

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Aftermarket from American Racing Headers. Either they couldn't handle boost or they got messed up from a misfire and are getting worse.
I had American Racing Long Tube Headers & High Flow cats for about 2.5 - 3 years and during that time one year was super charged. Never had an issue. However, I've heard people with after market cats having issues similar to yours.

Good Luck with everything! Believe me, I feel your pain about having a bunch of issues with your super charged V6.
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:23 PM   #211
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haha actually it's an inside joke. As I was getting this sig made PQ (an OU fan) said I needed to have the OU logo on my sig and someone else said it needed to say "sucks" on it. So that's why it has "OU Sucks" on my sig. I actually don't mind OU. I just dislike Texas A&M



I had American Racing Long Tube Headers & High Flow cats for about 2.5 - 3 years and during that time one year was super charged. Never had an issue. However, I've heard people with after market cats having issues similar to yours.

Good Luck with everything! Believe me, I feel your pain about having a bunch of issues with your super charged V6.
Managed to watch my boost gauge while accelerating today and saw it go up to 10 psi. I have the autolites back in with a 0.035" gap, see how that works. After this issue is fixed I'm done with engine mods, next up will be to get a 1LE differential so I can get up in RPM's.
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:45 PM   #212
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I asked IPF but they didnt know...but is there any way I can see all of the boost numbers and stuff without the pillar? I plan on getting them one day. Just not a need right now and was just curious. Since you mentioned seeing the 10psi today thought I would ask everyone.
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:55 PM   #213
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I asked earlier if I could put a wideband in one of the rear o2 sensor ports instead of welding into my headers.
Does anyone know the answer to this? If so what would be the negative side effects to running without a o2 sensor on one side? And what's better having both o2 sensors and welding the wide band sensor into your long tubes or replacing one of the o2s?
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:49 PM   #214
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I used a Autometer Cobalt Boost gauge in a regular gauge pod attached to the dash with double sided tape. Its a temp thing till I get the double pod for the pillar.

Got my hex vents today, got them in flat black since I plan on getting the stripes painted on eventually. Not going to install them until I get the car running correctly though.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:28 AM   #215
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If removing the rear O2 senser, won't that throw a CEL? Do you have a tune to delete that O2? IPF recomends putting the O2 close to the exhaust. One bank is good. only have a single TB and furel rate should be even in all the injectors. I welded mine in place. on the drivers side because of the wire lenght. Might do the passenger side later on.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:23 AM   #216
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Magnaforce. We installed Hex vents on a Camaro, when I saw your picture, I thought it was his car. Only diff is he painted the grill green. Check out the New Eng section and click on AugBBQ.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:09 PM   #217
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The 0.035" gap didn't work, hesitants and pops under boost. Feels stronger than the stock plugs though. Will try 0.030" next. How small is too small (giggity)?
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If removing the rear O2 senser, won't that throw a CEL? Do you have a tune to delete that O2? IPF recomends putting the O2 close to the exhaust. One bank is good. only have a single TB and furel rate should be even in all the injectors. I welded mine in place. on the drivers side because of the wire lenght. Might do the passenger side later on.
Do you by any chance have pictures of how you welded/installed it?
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:25 PM   #219
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No pics. I can guess I have some metal shavings in the inlet side of the cat. I had to remove the mig gaurd/cap just to get a decent weld. short tarvels, up hill. the auto hood did not work too good. I paid the price the next day.
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The 0.035" gap didn't work, hesitants and pops under boost. Feels stronger than the stock plugs though. Will try 0.030" next. How small is too small (giggity)?
Thanks for keeping us posted- still haven't changed mine and you're saving me a lot of effort!

Have you re-installed your Mace ported IM yet?
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:26 PM   #221
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Yeah, got it installed, feels a lot better than the stock intake.

I had the plugs before at 0.030", but I was still getting hesitation but that was with the clogged cats. Going to see how they are now. Don't know if I should go down to 0.025" though.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:05 PM   #222
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So so close, no popping or hesitation with the A/C on, but with it off it has it but near 6000 rpm's now. Think I have to go to 0.028" now. Will see how it does tomorrow after putting 70 miles on it.
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Arno recommends 0.031" (.8mm), I doubt you'd need to go below that.

Glad to hear the ported IM feels better- I'm not feelin' quite the oomph I expected down low from my dyno results, but that was done with my Mace on and now it's off.

I'm going to get it powder coated and then make the time to re-install!

Hang in there!
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:42 PM   #224
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Will see how the car acts tomorrow, hopefully just a minor adjustment and she will run good.

Here is a video from last Friday when we went to the track. On our first pass I did a burnout for a few seconds to get the tires warmed up but the 60' timer was down so I don't know if there was an improvement. You can see my wife's awesome burnout though:



She forgot to turn off traction control...
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:02 PM   #225
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She forgot to turn off traction control...
lol...oops!

I say spin those suckers for another couple seconds! Of course...I'm not paying for your tires either
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