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Old 07-26-2013, 02:26 PM   #76
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All years yes . Sorry like to be more positive about the LS7 engine but after watching that board for the last 3 year it not good . That why i have a GM car with a LS3 in it.


Most of our group has C6 Z06. One of our members has one of the highest mileage Z06's in the country. None of them have ever dropped an exhaust valve.

The LS7 is a great engine.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:30 PM   #77
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"All"?
LOL!!! I thought of you when I read "all" in his post. Honestly, I was going to quote him and give him a chance to rewrite before you read it but you got to it first.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:42 PM   #78
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LOL!!! I thought of you when I read "all" in his post. Honestly, I was going to quote him and give him a chance to rewrite before you read it but you got to it first.
Thanks, you gave me a good laugh!
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WOW.... you guys are gonna have to cut it out.....
I can't take it I keep reaching for my money.....

Y'all heard him say what I have been told this car is going after the GTR and GT3......... Dang the Mustang there are BIGGER fish to fry.....

If you gonna go to the mountain the goal should be on the top of the mountain!!!!!!!

That means its gonna have to be a high 10 second car because that is what that new GTR is doing.....
They are going after track times not drag strip, the Z28 was built for the track and not the strip, the rearend wasn't built to take the punishment of multiple hard starts.
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Here go you, go post in this forum http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z06-discussion-100/
tell them all how great your LS7 is and how it not drop and Ex. valve lest see what happens.
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:13 PM   #81
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Sorry for being a Dick but If you really want to know the Good the Bad and the Ugly of the LS7 http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z06-discussion-100/ use the link read the Forum do the search on ( I drop and EX. valve threads) there threads on checking valves guilds clearness just a ton of stuff that you can help you make up your own mine if the LS7 is a good or bad . I think it can be a good motor if you take the time to pull the heads and make them right .
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:54 PM   #82
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Here go you, go post in this forum http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z06-discussion-100/
tell them all how great your LS7 is and how it not drop and Ex. valve lest see what happens.
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Sorry for being a Dick but If you really want to know the Good the Bad and the Ugly of the LS7 http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z06-discussion-100/ use the link read the Forum do the search on ( I drop and EX. valve threads) there threads on checking valves guilds clearness just a ton of stuff that you can help you make up your own mine if the LS7 is a good or bad . I think it can be a good motor if you take the time to pull the heads and make them right .
There is no reason to be cynical or condescending.

Have LS7 engines been known to drop an exhaust valve, yes. Have all LS7's dropped an exhaust valve, NO!

Are there people on CF.com that have attested to a valve drop, yes. Now compare that to all of the LS7 engines out there. All LS7s have not dropped an exhaust valve.

You made a very general, blanket statemnt and two of us called you on it. Have a good day.
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Ok will not talk about the list of over 200 people on one forum that pull have there heads some with a little as 5,000 miles on them that have found their guilds were shot and had to redo there heads . Every one who on that list had not pull and check there head would have ended up on the I drop a valve list. So you just keep on thinking its a little problem I disagree .
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When was the most recent issue, year of Corvette?
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Ok will not talk about the list of over 200 people on one forum that pull have there heads some with a little as 5,000 miles on them that have found their guilds were shot and had to redo there heads . Every one who on that list had not pull and check there head would have ended up on the I drop a valve list. So you just keep on thinking its a little problem I disagree .
Out of curiosity, how many total have been sold?
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Most of our group has C6 Z06. One of our members has one of the highest mileage Z06's in the country. None of them have ever dropped an exhaust valve.

The LS7 is a great engine.
I personally know 3 locally that have dropped valves in LS7s. It's the biggest reason I didn't pick up a C6Z when I sold my Tankmaro.
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I particularly liked the part where Al is talking about the Z/28 in racing and says "My hope is that we'll get a series created where this car can compete..."

I had a feeling there was something in the works with the big 3; they aren't spending all this development money creating these kinds of cars just for HPDE weekend events.

so, what cars would be in that series?

1. AMG SLS 563hp 6.2l
2. porsche GT2
3. ferrari 458
4. 2013 bmw m6
5. jaguar f-type
6. camaro 7 liter


those cars would have to do. there is no equivelant ford or dodge. the Z28 is competing against nothing, and is priced too high. i wanted to trade my mustang for one, but i will never pay 70,000 for a camaro of any kind. anyone who does as too much money and is compensating for something. i laugh at the purchasers of this old-rich man car.

its great that they made the car, it's crap that its priced 20,000 too high and belongs to collectors.
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In 1986-92, GM-Canada had a very successful series for IROCs/TAs-only. A fellow named Ron Fellows graduated from that series. And the 1LE was a DIRECT descendant of it, as well.

This car may be so good that GM may have to consider something like that, again. Viper Cup, Porsche Cup. Successful series for single-marque cars. And a way to get them on-track without the hassles of reconfiguring the car to satisfy Ford/Mopar/Import "playpen rules". And a way to sell some parts, too.
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I personally know 3 locally that have dropped valves in LS7s. It's the biggest reason I didn't pick up a C6Z when I sold my Tankmaro.
If I personally knew 3 people who had dropped a valve, I wouldn't buy an LS7 either.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:51 PM   #91
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If I personally knew 3 people who had dropped a valve, I wouldn't buy an LS7 either.
What's failing to cause this?

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GM said it was a machining flaw. If it isn't fixed by now, it's a design flaw. It has to do with valve guides not being the correct size and the valves rock.
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who cares about a dropped valve. it's under warranty. that comment is a bait and nitpicking objections.

the car is a gol-danged 427 Camaro. if it wasn't ruined by price and marketing id get one. it's a last shot EVER to get a 427 Camaro. too bad for us regular folks. we will never see one even on the road. they will be bought for 100k and stored for auction 40 years from now.


stupid chevrolet. stupid. im disappointed because i wanted one for myself.
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Again, for the umpteenth time, there are REASONS that the number produced will be what it is. There ARE "constraints".
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so, what cars would be in that series?

1. AMG SLS 563hp 6.2l
2. porsche GT2
3. ferrari 458
4. 2013 bmw m6
5. jaguar f-type
6. camaro 7 liter


those cars would have to do. there is no equivelant ford or dodge. the Z28 is competing against nothing, and is priced too high. i wanted to trade my mustang for one, but i will never pay 70,000 for a camaro of any kind. anyone who does as too much money and is compensating for something. i laugh at the purchasers of this old-rich man car.

its great that they made the car, it's crap that its priced 20,000 too high and belongs to collectors.
We're talking about an unannounced series with cars that haven't even been finalized or released yet. And as far as I know, GM hasn't said what the Z/28 is going to sell for. Both Dodge and Ford have said they're developing a direct competitor to the Z/28 so don't count them out. We'll have to wait and see, but personally I'm expecting the Z/28 will be in the low $60k range.
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who cares about a dropped valve. it's under warranty. that comment is a bait and nitpicking objections.

the car is a gol-danged 427 Camaro. if it wasn't ruined by price and marketing id get one. it's a last shot EVER to get a 427 Camaro. too bad for us regular folks. we will never see one even on the road. they will be bought for 100k and stored for auction 40 years from now.


stupid chevrolet. stupid. im disappointed because i wanted one for myself.
Why is GM stupid? Because they didn't keep building a watered down Z28 so more people could buy it? They have other models that more people could buy and would actually fit what they want if they understood what the Z/28 was.
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i wanted to trade my mustang for one, but i will never pay 70,000 for a camaro of any kind. anyone who does as too much money and is compensating for something. i laugh at the purchasers of this old-rich man car.
Maybe if you look at it as a capable track car and forget the humble beginnings of its name it'll be easier to understand.

Compensating? Old rich man? Ever watch "Bucket List"?


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No, it does not belong to collectors. What's crap is that more than one or two collectors will end up owning any of them.


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Why is GM stupid? Because they didn't keep building a watered down Z28 so more people could buy it? They have other models that more people could buy and would actually fit what they want if they understood what the Z/28 was.
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What's failing to cause this?

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I talked to a few people who have been following this issue for a couple of years. Basically their theory is that it was a valve train alignment issue that cause the valve to rock in the valve guide. Some tuners where beginning to collect mounting evidence on this. But they were slammed on the internet by conspiracy theorists and dropped the issue.
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So what is the most recently made car to have this issue 20**?
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