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Old 07-19-2013, 04:45 AM   #1
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SS Convertible sway bars. What kind?

I have a 2013 SS convertible with a build date of 3/2013. It has the rear sway bars mounted inside of the shocks, FE3. Everything I have read about the 2013 SS convertible is that it has the FE3 suspension and the coupes get the FE4. I would like to upgrade my sways and was wondering what you SS vert owners are using and if converting to the FE4 is worthwhile, considering I will never Autocross. Just spirted canyon carving. Thanks.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:35 PM   #2
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Get the Pedders ZL Spec Conversion Package. Highly recommend.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:42 PM   #3
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You already have the updated rear arms with both end link mounts in place. All you will need are end links and the sway bars.

The difference between the inboard and outboard mounts on the rear is huge. I highly recommend either the Pfadt ZL spec sway bars or the Pedders FE4 sway bars. You really can't go wrong with either and they will be a nice bang for the buck. Feel free to call, PM or email me anytime with questions or pricing.

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Old 07-19-2013, 08:27 PM   #4
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You can also use the stock ZL1 or 1LE sway bars too!
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:58 PM   #5
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You already have the updated rear arms with both end link mounts in place. All you will need are end links and the sway bars.

The difference between the inboard and outboard mounts on the rear is huge. I highly recommend either the Pfadt ZL spec sway bars or the Pedders FE4 sway bars. You really can't go wrong with either and they will be a nice bang for the buck. Feel free to call, PM or email me anytime with questions or pricing.

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Thanks everyone. I went with the Pfadt ZL spec sways and links from Tyler at JDP. I learned from Tyler that the 2013 and some of the 2012 SS convertibles have the FE3 sway bar setup, but, have the FE4 lower control arms with the hole locations on the outer ends of the arms. I am looking forward to this upgrade.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:19 PM   #6
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Thanks everyone. I went with the Pfadt ZL spec sways and links from Tyler at JDP. I learned from Tyler that the 2013 and some of the 2012 SS convertibles have the FE3 sway bar setup, but, have the FE4 lower control arms with the hole locations on the outer ends of the arms. I am looking forward to this upgrade.
Thanks for the order! You are going to love this setup!

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Old 07-22-2013, 02:26 PM   #7
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Can't go wrong either way!

Now to address the subframe~
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:40 PM   #8
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Can't go wrong either way!

Now to address the subframe~
Not sure about the NVH issues that could be caused by them. How much is the overall ride quality affected with the subframe bushings?
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:47 PM   #9
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I have the Pedders inserts, and for me, I didn't notice any major shift in NVH or ride harshness. Just drastically more planted in the corners.

I was tempted to move to solid bushings and had a long chat with Pete from Pedders about the upgrade. He actually said that unless you plan to race pro, the inserts are fine. He could of made an easy buck there.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:54 PM   #10
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I have the Pedders inserts, and for me, I didn't notice any major shift in NVH or ride harshness. Just drastically more planted in the corners.

I was tempted to move to solid bushings and had a long chat with Pete from Pedders about the upgrade. He actually said that unless you plan to race pro, the inserts are fine. He could of made an easy buck there.
Thanks. I will have to consider this mod.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:53 AM   #11
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I have a 2013 SS convertible with a build date of 3/2013. It has the rear sway bars mounted inside of the shocks, FE3. Everything I have read about the 2013 SS convertible is that it has the FE3 suspension and the coupes get the FE4. I would like to upgrade my sways and was wondering what you SS vert owners are using and if converting to the FE4 is worthwhile, considering I will never Autocross. Just spirted canyon carving. Thanks.
I use SLPs which accurally are Eibach. The front and rear are 29mm instead of the stock 23mm. The front has two adjustment holes and the rear had three. The car really stiffens up. Along with Eibachs lowering springs, the car sits 1" lower and huges the curves on rails. I posted times equal to ZL1s last year in the autocross at Cfest.
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:27 AM   #12
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I use SLPs which accurally are Eibach. The front and rear are 29mm instead of the stock 23mm. The front has two adjustment holes and the rear had three. The car really stiffens up. Along with Eibachs lowering springs, the car sits 1" lower and huges the curves on rails. I posted times equal to ZL1s last year in the autocross at Cfest.
That's good to hear. Look forwarded to getting mine.
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:41 AM   #13
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While sways and springs help greatly, those alone wouldn't allow for a mostly stock vert to hang with a ZL1. Give credit where credit is due Smkymts, you were obviously the better driver.
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While sways and springs help greatly, those alone wouldn't allow for a mostly stock vert to hang with a ZL1. Give credit where credit is due Smkymts, you were obviously the better driver.
Thanks for saying that. You made my shitty day have a smile. But a lot of the credit goes to the Supercharger, race cam and Tune as well. But all is for not because it looks like Lucas Raceway isn't going to let convertibles race this year without roll cages which my car will never have. I am still waiting on final word but it looks doubtful. So the host hotel will be having an opening.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:04 PM   #15
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Thanks for saying that. You made my shitty day have a smile. But a lot of the credit goes to the Supercharger, race cam and Tune as well. But all is for not because it looks like Lucas Raceway isn't going to let convertibles race this year without roll cages which my car will never have. I am still waiting on final word but it looks doubtful. So the host hotel will be having an opening.
I hear you. The only thing keeping me from going crazy on the tracks out here is the roll bar. I have been fence sitting for a year on that. There are times I wish I didn't get a vert so I could enjoy the mods w/o the bar, however I think to the fact that 99% of my time is on the street.

A personal reason that I don't want a bar at this point is we are expecting our first child. I love the thought of being able to take a coastal cruise with a shorty in the back =).
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:10 PM   #16
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Thanks everyone. I went with the Pfadt ZL spec sways and links from Tyler at JDP. I learned from Tyler that the 2013 and some of the 2012 SS convertibles have the FE3 sway bar setup, but, have the FE4 lower control arms with the hole locations on the outer ends of the arms. I am looking forward to this upgrade.
Good choice, I have Pfadt trailing arms and toe rods and they made the wheel hop disappear.
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Old 08-27-2013, 02:01 PM   #17
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UPDATE! Had my Pfadt ZLspec sways installed by Haddad Motorsports on Friday with the poly subframe bushings. I already had the Hotchkis 1" drop springs installed. I notice that the ride is harsher over undulated uneven surfaces and bumps, but, ride nice on even or smooth roads. No noises and the handling is great and virtually no body roll. Now I notice the limitations of the P-Zeros.
For you convertible owners that want to have a great handling car I highly recommend this setup. If you want just the lowered look with not much change in ride quality from OEM and no clearance problems with some better handling get the Hotchkis 1" drop springs made for the convertible. Talk to Tyler at JDP. He can fill you in with what you need.
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UPDATE! Had my Pfadt ZLspec sways installed by Haddad Motorsports on Friday with the poly subframe bushings. I already had the Hotchkis 1" drop springs installed. I notice that the ride is harsher over undulated uneven surfaces and bumps, but, ride nice on even or smooth roads. No noises and the handling is great and virtually no body roll. Now I notice the limitations of the P-Zeros.
For you convertible owners that want to have a great handling car I highly recommend this setup. If you want just the lowered look with not much change in ride quality from OEM and no clearance problems with some better handling get the Hotchkis 1" drop springs made for the convertible. Talk to Tyler at JDP. He can fill you in with what you need.
Thanks for your feedback and support! I am glad you are liking your new suspension. Like I said in the other thread, once you get some good tires the fun really begins! Have a good one!

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