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Old 07-29-2013, 10:16 PM   #26
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Ecs 1500 kit+nf cam+1 7/8 LTs+alky dual nozzle made 750whp in my c6 at lethal. We pulled a little timing (to save the stock clutch) and I dd 701whp! meth? Yes please!! Was at 650whp before it
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:25 PM   #27
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Ecs 1500 kit+nf cam+1 7/8 LTs+alky dual nozzle made 750whp in my c6 at lethal. We pulled a little timing (to save the stock clutch) and I dd 701whp! meth? Yes please!! Was at 650whp before it
Curious how much fuel you are having to pull in this / similar setups to avoid going too rich (impacting HP) and then as a result being so heavily dependent upon meth as a fuel source that any failure could cause a lean situation....

Could you comment on how you are addressing your tune here? .... I, like many, really want to leverage meth as a cooling and for the safety elements it offers so well - but not to the point I must pull fuel due to being so rich and then have potential risk. I don't even want to add timing with meth ....

Thanks for the insight from all the smart folks here....
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Old 07-31-2013, 08:06 AM   #28
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You would have to contact Shawn or nick at lethal racing for the tuning details. I do know they mounted the IAT sensor after the meth nozzles and the tune was set up so if it saw a large increase in temp (indicating no meth/bad pump ect) then it would pull all the timing and save the motor. That's how most do it I believe. Maybe one if them will chime in and give you more details. I personally see no problems with tuning the meth for power as long as there are safeties in place. I also had a light nick mounted by my boost gauge to tell me when the pump was on (red) and when I was at full psi (green) hope this helps.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:04 PM   #29
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You would have to contact Shawn or nick at lethal racing for the tuning details. I do know they mounted the IAT sensor after the meth nozzles and the tune was set up so if it saw a large increase in temp (indicating no meth/bad pump ect) then it would pull all the timing and save the motor. That's how most do it I believe. Maybe one if them will chime in and give you more details. I personally see no problems with tuning the meth for power as long as there are safeties in place. I also had a light nick mounted by my boost gauge to tell me when the pump was on (red) and when I was at full psi (green) hope this helps.
Pretty much summed it up. Iat's have to be below a set point to give timing. We tune it the way gm has it in the stock tune
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:58 PM   #30
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Pretty much summed it up. Iat's have to be below a set point to give timing. We tune it the way gm has it in the stock tune
Fair and understood on the IAT's - but are you tuning A/F in accordance to stay away from being too rich (especially if your meth config calls for a solid spray i.e. 2 nozels)... and then just leaning on the logic of rapid IAT increase = potential meth system fault = yank timing big time... to prevent issue? ... Seems like this is about the best failsafe we have but curious.

Also - and not to cross thread but looking for anyone that may have a renegade fuel stoichiometric cross reference? .... I am searching all over for this and their 110 race fuel.

Thanks for all the help here guys - appreciated always.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:45 PM   #31
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Anyone have experience with the AIS kits? I'm considering meth to go with an AGP twin turbo. I know most here say go with Alky Control, but I really like the custom trunk tank with the AIS system. Also, are the nylon lines sufficient?
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:49 PM   #32
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I think you could buy the tank separate and the rest from alky control. Ive seen a nylon line break crack on the dyno but mine have held up so far.
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Old 11-24-2013, 02:05 PM   #33
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I hate nylon and push lock for meth. We only use alky control kits and we are a dealer for them and an agp dealer. We are actually just a couple miles from them, if you have any questions about the kit let me know.

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Old 11-24-2013, 11:13 PM   #34
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Anyone have experience with the AIS kits? I'm considering meth to go with an AGP twin turbo. I know most here say go with Alky Control, but I really like the custom trunk tank with the AIS system. Also, are the nylon lines sufficient?
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Old 11-25-2013, 05:13 AM   #35
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I keep hearing good things about the Alky Meth Kit, and was hoping to pair it with the AIS Trunk Tank (if I can find a vendor that would sell me this mix as a kit)
Mine goes into the shop today for this very setup (AIS Tank and ALKY Control Meth setup). Will cost a little more to break up the kit, but appears to be the best of both worlds.

I have been told to expect ~ 40 hp gain. It seems as though about every other tank of 93 I get is not up to par and I hear pinging, so then I have to add a $15 bottle of Nos Octane Booster. The meth is probably overkill for my situation but hopefully I wont have to worry about pinging anymore.

Like anything else, you have to maintain the system. Julio encouraged me to have the pump serviced every year or 2 years at the latest. The first time you just buy a new pump and send the old one in for service. Then you have a spare for the next time service is due.

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