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Old 07-25-2013, 01:10 PM   #18
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he didnt say he had it off and on several times did he?
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:38 PM   #19
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We are waiting to get our hands on a tool that bolts into where the starter goes that will hold the crankshaft from moving. We tried tightening today with the camaro in reverse and still no go. We'll use the stock bolt in order to finish the install and I'll baby it home and when the tool arrives, I'll go back to my friends garage and we'll finish it correctly. And maybe I'll get him to install my Pedders stainless steel brake lines and DOT4 brake fluid.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:48 PM   #20
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..... Or go with an ARP bolt that isn't TYY.
This. I changed over to an ARP crank bolt (until the ECS install which requires the longer LS7 bolt). I don't like fooling with Torque to Yield bolts. never had any fastener made by ARP fail.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:48 PM   #21
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We used an impact as well. Still no where near 140 degrees. My buddy has been a GM master mechanic for a long time. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it
When my friend and I installed my E-Force we used a 4' pipe on the breaker bar to turn it to 140 deg.
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:39 PM   #22
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If you can't get it done with your impact wrench, you need to borrow mine...or get one that's a little more ballsy
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:52 PM   #23
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If you can't get it done with your impact wrench, you need to borrow mine...or get one that's a little more ballsy
lol...I used my Ingersoll Rand Thunder gun on my crank bolt and that work for me
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:58 PM   #24
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Don't use an impact on TTY bolts...bad, bad, bad.

I used my jack handle as a cheater bar. 140* no problem.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:22 PM   #25
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Don't use an impact on TTY bolts...bad, bad, bad.

I used my jack handle as a cheater bar. 140* no problem.
Agreed, I have an ARP 12 point bolt when I used my gun
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:20 PM   #26
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He got it 140* after putting it in 4th, blocking the wheels with the PB on. 5' bar and a lot of cussin'.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:35 PM   #27
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Don't use an impact on TTY bolts...bad, bad, bad.

I used my jack handle as a cheater bar. 140* no problem.
So....what bad things should I look for? I hate living on the edge. Should I remove the bolt and replace with new?
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So....what bad things should I look for? I hate living on the edge. Should I remove the bolt and replace with new?
For the cheap price of the bolt, it would be a good idea to replace it.

Since the balancers aren't keyed to the crank, there is a very real potential for the bolt to come loose if not properly torqued. Use red Loctite on the threads when you go back in.
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For the cheap price of the bolt, it would be a good idea to replace it.

Since the balancers aren't keyed to the crank, there is a very real potential for the bolt to come loose if not properly torqued. Use red Loctite on the threads when you go back in.
You're saying that turning it 140 degrees with an impact wrench is somehow substandard to turning it 140 degrees with elbow power?
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:04 PM   #30
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I hit mine in with an impact too after not being able to get it near 140*. It's been fine but I did purchase an ARP bolt and the tool to lock the flywheel. Haven't got around to installing it yet though.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:54 AM   #31
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You're saying that turning it 140 degrees with an impact wrench is somehow substandard to turning it 140 degrees with elbow power?
Only thing I can fathom is the harsh ratcheting of the impact could crack or damage the bolt compared to a hand tightening. I doubt it makes a difference though. Need a metallurgist. lol.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:30 AM   #32
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You're saying that turning it 140 degrees with an impact wrench is somehow substandard to turning it 140 degrees with elbow power?
Of course it is. When you take a hammer to metal, what happens? The factory bolts are torque to yield. An impact disproportionately stretches them. That can result in it coming loose, or breaking at some point. Good luck with that. You can rattle them off if you want to, but always install them by hand. ARP bolts are a different story.

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Old 08-01-2013, 12:17 PM   #33
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Got mine to 140 with a 4 foot snipe and the help of a 215 pound hockey player.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:01 PM   #34
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Of course it is. When you take a hammer to metal, what happens? The factory bolts are torque to yield. An impact disproportionately stretches them. That can result in it coming loose, or breaking at some point. Good luck with that. You can rattle them off if you want to, but always install them by hand. ARP bolts are a different story.

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Mine's been running for several years and thousands of miles done with an impact wrench. I think I'll continue to take my chances. Maybe I'm just lucky
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