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Old 08-06-2013, 05:58 AM   #26
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dznfn. you got a good deal. there is a 2LT vert, 2013 up here in KC area at 34,300 marked down, which is below invoice. it does not have the rs package. i really dont need the rs, and again, summer only tires is all you can get. i asked the dealer about switching out to all season, they balk. i dont want to spend 34K for a car, then have to go out and spend anothe 1000 bucks in Novemember so i can drive the car. that is why, this and another vert the dealer has are both 19 inch wheels. i dont know. my car will be a daily driver. i get ssnow here. and i keep my cars a long time. i still have my 98 firebird, i bought new and it looks showroom new with 171k miles. i will test drive both cars, coupe and vert. my budget allows for a 1lt vert if i order 2014, or a 2lt coupe if i order. if i get a 2013, with 1500 rebate and my gm card earnings , i can get into a 2lt vert. the ss is nice, but, i am 55, aint gonna drag race it, and cant see the purpose of 400 hp where a person cant use it all anyway. the speed limit is still 70 whether its a 4 cyliner or a 8. the v6 mileage appeals to me, along with 320 hp is plenty for this old man. if the SS got 30 mpg, and came with all season tires, then it would be a stretch to get into a 1SS coupe at best. my ins. company ironically does not have a problem with either. but, will look at the vert and coupe close with test drive.
Is there any reason you don't want a used one? I bought my 2011 2LT/RS vert last year with 11k miles on the OD for $27,500 which I thought was a GREAT deal. Now I have 37k on the OD and I am very happy with it.


And btw, I was leary about the All-summer tires as well and just bought some Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires which are All season/high performance.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:31 AM   #27
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dznfn, i have had 2 cars with t tops, and have a boat. so i like the outdoors and i know a vert would be fun. that is a given. but, the potential problems they had are a concern when spending these kind of dollars, and it being my daily driver, i am single Dad, and in midwest. (i do have a Envoy 4X4 for snow, sleet) . but, another questions. what happens to the vert and parts, if its say December, and 39 and raining, i drive it, and then it drops to way below freezing that nite, like 20 degrees? what happens to canvas, bags, etc? that happens alot here. and what is min. temp to lower a top? if its cool out like 55, but have windows up, could still drop top. this is all new to me. the verts are great looking, no doubt. thanks
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:41 AM   #28
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Everything about the 'vert top is the same as a coupe with one exception and that would be the weight of the snow/ice just sitting on it. If having to park it outside is the only option in your case/area, then yes, that would be a concern. But the cold & hot weather extremes testing done to these cars systems to include the top is excellent. But again, the only concern to me would be the weight left to sit on the top if you don't clean it off.

As for the top down and windows up, yes.

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Old 08-07-2013, 06:29 AM   #29
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:33 AM   #30
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pouring here real hard for a couple days here in Kanas city. maybe its a good day to go check out the 13 verts on the dealers lot, he has 2, to see how "dry" they are. but guess if i order a new one, 14, it may not matter. the salesman very nice, have visited there several times, he knows i am detailed, and ask ton of questions, but he not forthcoming on problems. he said they do minor fixes at dealer, but major ones they send the car out to a top shop. but he has no real comment on issues.
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:34 AM   #31
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Gettn a vert is good idea that's my plan I want a 14 vert n a year or 2 or 16 vert
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:07 AM   #32
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pouring here real hard for a couple days here in Kanas city. maybe its a good day to go check out the 13 verts on the dealers lot, he has 2, to see how "dry" they are. but guess if i order a new one, 14, it may not matter. the salesman very nice, have visited there several times, he knows i am detailed, and ask ton of questions, but he not forthcoming on problems. he said they do minor fixes at dealer, but major ones they send the car out to a top shop. but he has no real comment on issues.
Good idea to check it out after a lot of rain, but you need to check out the actual vehicle you are buying. When the cars are assembled properly and everthing is functioning the top is very water tight. You just need to make sure that the actual car you are buying has no issues.
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:49 PM   #33
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Love my vert. BRM with tan top.

Get the SS or you will have regrets... The mpg difference is not that significant.

Tan top was still available in 2013. Don't know about 2014.

I went with tan because it is cooler in summer if you are driving top up.

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Old 08-07-2013, 06:07 PM   #34
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Plan on racing? Get a coupe. Plan on cruising? Get a 'vert (chicks love it). But whatever you do buy used! Lotsa clean low mile SS's out there.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:56 PM   #35
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After cruising in my new 'vert and after having my coupe for 2 years I will NEVER have a coupe again, EVER!!!!!!
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:57 PM   #36
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i have bought new cars for quite a while. and i just prefer to buy a new car, i keep them forever and i know how it will be treated. the SS gets 24 hwy, and LT 29. pretty significant. and agian, the speed limit is 70, whether you have a ford focus or a ZL1. where you going to use all that horsepower? 323 in v6 is plenty for me, i dont race, and looking for daily driver.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:00 PM   #37
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i have bought new cars for quite a while. and i just prefer to buy a new car, i keep them forever and i know how it will be treated. the SS gets 24 hwy, and LT 29. pretty significant. and agian, the speed limit is 70, whether you have a ford focus or a ZL1. where you going to use all that horsepower? 323 in v6 is plenty for me, i dont race, and looking for daily driver.
I can hit 70 in 3rd No Problem with my 6.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:38 AM   #38
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when looking at new verts on the dealer lots, is there a way to see the water bags everyone talks about? or does the car have to be taken apart to see them. i was curious. does any other make or model use these bags, or just the camaro?
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:01 AM   #39
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i have bought new cars for quite a while. and i just prefer to buy a new car, i keep them forever and i know how it will be treated. the SS gets 24 hwy, and LT 29. pretty significant. and agian, the speed limit is 70, whether you have a ford focus or a ZL1. where you going to use all that horsepower? 323 in v6 is plenty for me, i dont race, and looking for daily driver.
My point exactly, "buy an SS", blah, blah.. You don't need an SS and you certainly won't regret not buying it. I have a V6 and it has more than enough power and on top of that, I don't have to buy premium gas...

(On the same note, the SS guys get upset when I tell them I averaged 31mpg on our long road trips and look just as good as they do)
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:56 AM   #40
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(On the same note, the SS guys get upset when I tell them I averaged 31mpg on our long road trips and look just as good as they do)
Ummm, I don't get upset.....
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:34 PM   #41
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Neither do I.

Bought a G8 with the six. Not bad.

But when it came time to buy the Camaro, went with V8 with no hesitation.

Conscious decision. Perfectly willing to settle for the lower mpg.
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Old 08-08-2013, 03:53 PM   #42
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If I Hammond to see one one the lot, I May buy one in Clarkson county.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:26 PM   #43
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you folks with the SS, are those cars your daily drivers or just weekend car? if i didnt have 55 miles round trip to work and back, then i woiuld consider the V8. but, i just dont want to feed gas all the time. i have an 07 Envoy Denali with the 5.3 V8. i use it to tow and trips out of town with my son. but, it uses the gas. however, its not my daily driver. the camaro would be. I had a 86 Camaro with the 305 V8, was a good engine and did pretty good on gas, but gas a little cheaper back then.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:59 PM   #44
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you folks with the SS, are those cars your daily drivers or just weekend car? if i didnt have 55 miles round trip to work and back, then i woiuld consider the V8. but, i just dont want to feed gas all the time. i have an 07 Envoy Denali with the 5.3 V8. i use it to tow and trips out of town with my son. but, it uses the gas. however, its not my daily driver. the camaro would be. I had a 86 Camaro with the 305 V8, was a good engine and did pretty good on gas, but gas a little cheaper back then.
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:50 PM   #45
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wow, well the tahoe is probably worse on gas than the camaro
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:22 PM   #46
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Yea, 15 mpg and 37 miles each way to work M-F, but don't want tons of miles on my toy
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:29 PM   #47
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:47 AM   #48
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They say a picture is worth a 1000 words so here are my 1000 words....
Beautiful pic. Get the vert.
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Old 08-09-2013, 06:45 AM   #49
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if the camaro ss came with all seasons, and got 29 on the highway, and if price was closer to LT, i would consider. i have driven both SS and LT, both a friends car. both were 2010. LT was auto, SS was manual. of course taking off, the SS had more get up and go, but once i was on hwy at 70, they both were same to me. both drove really great and i could live with either, but being a daily driver, 50 miles round trip, i am not loaded and dont want to add to Conoco and BP bottom line anymore than i have to. lol. plus the price of car alot higher on the SS, and if i get vert, the LT is closer to being affordable
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You are the one driving it and paying for it, so you must decide the best compromise.
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