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Old 08-01-2013, 03:10 AM   #1
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Anybody use e85 fuel?

A local gas station by me has just started selling e85 fuel. It's like 60 cents a gallon cheaper. Anybody with a 2012 V6 use it yet and does it have any effect on performance. Don't know too much about it. Any insight would be helpful. I would like to save on gas money if I could use it all the time
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Old 08-01-2013, 03:30 AM   #2
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stay away - you car is not made for it...
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Old 08-01-2013, 03:33 AM   #3
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There's tons of information on E85 available. You not knowing much about it is because you haven't looked. Not counting the fact that your car isn't setup for running it, it's actually more expensive to run it on a DD. While it may be cheaper by the gallon, you have to physically use more of it equal what you get from gas, hense less MPG's. If it truly is 60cents cheaper around you, you might break even. Around here, the difference is quite a bit less.
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Even if the camaro could take e85 its not worth it unless the cost of the gas is about 40-45% cheaper than standard gas (thats about the break even point). it may be cheaper, but you suffer in gas milage BIG time!
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Even if the camaro could take e85 its not worth it unless the cost of the gas is about 40-45% cheaper than standard gas (thats about the break even point). it may be cheaper, but you suffer in gas milage BIG time!
I have run E85 in my truck 100% since the Summer of 2010. It is either E85 or premium with the 6.2. I get 14% less mpg with E85 but with price I at least break even. Currently E85 is $1.00 a gallon cheaper so it is actually costing quite a bit less at the moment .
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:31 AM   #6
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Forget about cost and mileage. None of the Camaro engines were made to run on E85 and it will corrode your fuel system seals and possibley cause other problems. Ethanol is much more corrosive than gasoline and engines meant to run on E85 are engineered accordingly.
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I have run E85 in my truck 100% since the Summer of 2010. It is either E85 or premium with the 6.2. I get 14% less mpg with E85 but with price I at least break even. Currently E85 is $1.00 a gallon cheaper so it is actually costing quite a bit less at the moment .
At that price your atleast at the break even point.

around me its a joke currently e85 is only about 0.25 cheaper than regular. so its not worth it. My durango i can run it in also, but never have for that reason.
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:54 AM   #9
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I was researching this yesterday actually. There is a guy on the Corvette sites and his LS3 has no issues and is tuned to take advantage of the higher octane. +40 rwhp. The fuel system apparently has no problems with it, just the computer is not able to switch back and forth in stock form like other GM engines.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...e-ls3-mnl.html
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the injectors in e85 vehicles are much much bigger because you need more fuel to drive the same speed. you would need bigger injectors and a tune to spend the same amount on gas. e85 also collects water so in a car designed to be a pleasure vehicle its not a good thing.
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At that price your atleast at the break even point.

around me its a joke currently e85 is only about 0.25 cheaper than regular. so its not worth it. My durango i can run it in also, but never have for that reason.
60 cents is my break even on the truck. Our Tahoe was 50 cents


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Forget about cost and mileage. None of the Camaro engines were made to run on E85 and it will corrode your fuel system seals and possibley cause other problems. Ethanol is much more corrosive than gasoline and engines meant to run on E85 are engineered accordingly.
I would never run e-85 in a car not designed for it. Engine may run lean on e-85= more heat and besides that fuel economy will suffer. Although I did not buy my car for fuel economy.
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Forget about cost and mileage. None of the Camaro engines were made to run on E85 and it will corrode your fuel system seals and possibley cause other problems. Ethanol is much more corrosive than gasoline and engines meant to run on E85 are engineered accordingly.

not true. the LFX is indeed designed to run on E85. but the car's fuel system is not, so you can't use it in the car.
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Less energy than gasoline. It's a sham "feel good": you pay less but put fuel in more often.

When I was 18 in 1989, leaded gas- the gas the '70 Buick I was driving was made to burn- was 67 cents a gallon.

In 2013, I pay just about 4 bucks a gallon for 93 octane unleaded.

It's so much easier for me to come up with gas money in 2013 it's not funny.
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Less energy than gasoline. It's a sham "feel good": you pay less but put fuel in more often.

When I was 18 in 1989, leaded gas- the gas the '70 Buick I was driving was made to burn- was 67 cents a gallon.

In 2013, I pay just about 4 bucks a gallon for 93 octane unleaded.

It's so much easier for me to come up with gas money in 2013 it's not funny.

yea, funny how that works. the cheapest I ever paid was about .79 cents back in '92. took about 15 bucks to fill the tank. takes about 60 now, but that 15 was a bigger chunk of the budget back then.

but a slight correction, car's weren't really made to run on regular. they just added lead to the gas to reduce knock.
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yea, funny how that works. the cheapest I ever paid was about .79 cents back in '92. took about 15 bucks to fill the tank. takes about 60 now, but that 15 was a bigger chunk of the budget back then.

but a slight correction, car's weren't really made to run on regular. they just added lead to the gas to reduce knock.
That's not the only reason. The lower compression heads post '72 had harder valve seats too
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Isn't the idea of E85 more about becoming less dependent on foreign oil than the actual cost of operation? I mean if these cars could run on it and the cost of operation was the same or even slightly more I would run it.
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Isn't the idea of E85 more about becoming less dependent on foreign oil than the actual cost of operation? I mean if these cars could run on it and the cost of operation was the same or even slightly more I would run it.

The corn that goes to E85 production seems to cause a lot of domestic issues that are more inconvenient and expensive than foreign oil, as far as I can see
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The corn that goes to E85 production seems to cause a lot of domestic issues that are more inconvenient and expensive than foreign oil, as far as I can see
It's a joke what Corn has done to this country , Watch the documentary "King Korn" you will never eat the same again. Or buy Ethanol again
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It's a joke what Corn has done to this country , Watch the documentary "King Korn" you will never eat the same again. Or buy Ethanol again
You've been programmed to believe every "documentary" as the gospel truth? You need to learn our world runs on BS. Have some skepticism as to what the producers agenda is. I'll say it again, last years domestic problems with the corn price was CORN BELT DROUTH! Give us normal weather(whatever that is)we will be swimming in grain and ethanol will be dirt cheap. And METhANOL is corrosive, ethanol not so much. Facts: ethanol is high octane and intake cooling for your engine, doesn't get the economy of gasoline so it's a math problem whether to run it, good for the environment (beats the heck out of MBTE. What would you rather have a glass of, Crown Royal(ethanol) or MTBE?).
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The corn that goes to E85 production seems to cause a lot of domestic issues that are more inconvenient and expensive than foreign oil, as far as I can see
Idk if "inconvenient" and "foreign oil" should be used in the same sentence lol
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You've been programmed to believe every "documentary" as the gospel truth? You need to learn our world runs on BS. Have some skepticism as to what the producers agenda is. I'll say it again, last years domestic problems with the corn price was CORN BELT DROUTH! Give us normal weather(whatever that is)we will be swimming in grain and ethanol will be dirt cheap. And METhANOL is corrosive, ethanol not so much. Facts: ethanol is high octane and intake cooling for your engine, doesn't get the economy of gasoline so it's a math problem whether to run it, good for the environment (beats the heck out of MBTE. What would you rather have a glass of, Crown Royal(ethanol) or MTBE?).
Where you from ? Oh Iowa , Where the corn grows like no other , Did you watch the documentary ? If you did then I would like to hear some facts on what they had wrong, I am open to it. Its not just gas its almost everything we eat, Cheap crap corn sugars that is making America a bunch of fat asses , and now in a humans DNA, You also left out a FACT on Ethanol it is very hard to regulate and your 85% might be 89% , You want that crap in your car go for it, I will take the 91 NO Eth, in my Camaro , And I don't doubt your statement on give us a great summer and we will be swimming in corn , Big business has taken over , the Farmer Pete is long gone , Or is that a myth also. This was not a attack on the corn belt just facts
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E85 minimum requirement is 70% ethanol (at least here in Indiana).


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not true. the LFX is indeed designed to run on E85. but the car's fuel system is not, so you can't use it in the car.
Do you mean the LFX used in other cars? Maybe so, but that's not to say that LFX is identical to the Camaros. I'm sure the cals are also much different on those cars because they are designed to detect the amount of ethanol in the fuel and make the necessary adjustment.
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Where you from ? Oh Iowa , Where the corn grows like no other , Did you watch the documentary ? If you did then I would like to hear some facts on what they had wrong, I am open to it. Its not just gas its almost everything we eat, Cheap crap corn sugars that is making America a bunch of fat asses , and now in a humans DNA, You also left out a FACT on Ethanol it is very hard to regulate and your 85% might be 89% , You want that crap in your car go for it, I will take the 91 NO Eth, in my Camaro , And I don't doubt your statement on give us a great summer and we will be swimming in corn , Big business has taken over , the Farmer Pete is long gone , Or is that a myth also. This was not a attack on the corn belt just facts
Blaming corn for fat asses? Couldn't be our lard ass lifestyles? Hard to regulate the % of ethanol? Couldn't be that your beloved oil companies mix it to maximize profits? Currently here in the midwest, oil companies are shipping substandard 84 oc. via the pipelines. You HAVE to put ethanol in it to reach 87 oc.! Soon I fear you will have to put that "crap" in your tank or walk. Your butt will get skinnier.
I wouldn't stick up for ethanol if I had bad experiences with it. I run it in my old 86 Grand National with a tune for it. It will kick the crap out of my supercharged Camaro. It's a stock long block engine with bolt ons. I've run ethanol in everything from chainsaws to 30 yr. old pickups. 0 PROBLEMS! Maybe we have fresher ethanol here, I never see the problems described on the internet. Ethanol is cheap race gas out of the pump!
Ya, I haul corn to ethanol plants. The way I look at it, I'm supplying a mini refinery here in the midwest. Thanks to environment people there hasn't been a new oil refinery built here in several decades. Many jobs created by the ethanol industry and ya...it helps the midwest economy.
Oil companies HATE ethanol. Why do you suppose that is? They want you to think ethanol is "crap". But I don't think it is at all.
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