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Old 07-07-2009, 02:07 PM   #85
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Wait so it's unfair to compare a car with 114 more hp, but it's not unfair to compare a car with 111 more hp?
exactly... somehow, to somebody, somewhere this make sense...there's no arguing with it, we just have to accept it:(
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:12 PM   #86
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exactly... somehow, to somebody, somewhere this make sense...there's no arguing with it, we just have to accept it:(
Hmm it must be the 3 horsepower.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:35 PM   #87
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I agree and disagree with you on some aspects. Yes Ford has allways had the upper hand on aftermarket support and go fast for cheap. And today with Ford engines are pretty good for making and holding high HP. But if your comparing a brand new SS and GT500 the price differance and weight the SS will give you a head start for modding. Brand loyalty aside and all that other BS, the SS might still win out in the mod/dollar war(ricer excuses some will say).

The only weak point in the LSx engines for years are the pistons and rods everything else could be left alone for serious power. Upgrade the the pistons, rods and the engine LSx could be a stong reliable motor, along with a FI, cam, bolt ons and heads. So for ~15k(just a guess) with endless combos on top of a base price of a SS you maybe at or under the base price of a stock GT500. We can go on for days mod VS mod discussion. Just my .02
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I'm coming from a 640rwhp GTO.

To go with forged rods/pistons, new heads, cam, full exhaust, FI, fuel system, driveline upgrades will run you real close to $20K plus. That is if you are doing a lot of the work yourself.

To me the advantage of the LS series of engines is the great and easy ability to make big power N/A. As soon as you start talking about FI then to me Ford has the upper hand with their forged stock motors. This is if you are talking $$ to HP.

If you are just talking about power, then brand loyalty flies out the door and what you are really talking about is the size of someones wallet.
True.

I take my above statement back I was thinking the GT500 was around $50K+ my bad. More reasearch next time.:(
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:39 PM   #88
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Impressive to see the Camaro not far back with 114hp difference. I tell you though that GT500 is bad looking but I will still take a Camaro any day!

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Old 07-07-2009, 03:49 PM   #89
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I'm coming from a 640rwhp GTO.

To go with forged rods/pistons, new heads, cam, full exhaust, FI, fuel system, driveline upgrades will run you real close to $20K plus. That is if you are doing a lot of the work yourself.

To me the advantage of the LS series of engines is the great and easy ability to make big power N/A. As soon as you start talking about FI then to me Ford has the upper hand with their forged stock motors. This is if you are talking $$ to HP.

If you are just talking about power, then brand loyalty flies out the door and what you are really talking about is the size of someones wallet.

Accurately stated, way to keep it 'real'. Some peeps should take time to actually understand what you typed.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:11 PM   #90
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Arrow Motor Trend; 2010 Camaro SS vs. 2010 Mustang GT500

For those that just want the numbers;

------ 0-60 1/4 mile speed
GT500 4.6 12.8 @ 115.3
SS 4.5 12.9 @ 110.7

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

Video is entertaining.

GT500 wins the drag race but not by enough to defend it's price.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:30 PM   #91
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MotorTrend got some pretty crappy numbers for the GT500. Capable of much better then that.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:39 PM   #92
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I can't wait to crush a GT500 at the track. I'm tired of reading about how great the GT500 is. It's overrated.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:44 PM   #93
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MotorTrend got some pretty crappy numbers for the GT500. Capable of much better then that.
yes, just look at the trap speed. the problem is hooking up, but once it hooks up, it is gone. making power with that car is no problem.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:49 PM   #94
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MotorTrend got some pretty crappy numbers for the GT500. Capable of much better then that.
Lol. Both cars can run 13.0, however, only one can run low 12's.......
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Lol. Both cars can run 13.0, however, only one can run low 12's.......
Yep. The GT500 outpowers the SS for sure. Nice to see another magazine getting 12.9 with the SS, but they sure as hell don't know how to launch/drive with all that power of the GT500. No way should the GT500 come in .1 faster in the 1/4 mile with equal drivers.
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It's the stock rubber. Obviously it would do better with slicks.
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drag race

ok I saw the short film in my humble estimation the camero still wins cause your saving $$$$ over 50g's for a mustang is just crazy. I'd rather spend it on a Corvette and blow the doors off both the camero and the mustang. The ss has better traction off the jump did u see how those tires on the mustang were bouncing up and down on the initial burnout? Also check the numbers it ain't that much faster to support such a high price tag. advantage chevy
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:32 AM   #98
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MotorTrend got some pretty crappy numbers for the GT500. Capable of much better then that.
.. basically 1 word for the GT500 .. traction .. lol .. if it could get some it would have been a lot worse for the SS ..


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