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Old 07-06-2009, 10:02 AM   #1
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Detailing questions answered here!

First, I want to thank my fellow Moderators as well as the Admins. for allowing me to do this. Thank You!

Second, the idea here is to help anyone with any questions, problems, issues, faced with the maintaining of their cars appearance. It is not intended to promote any singular product.

Finally, I do not claim to be an expert on the subject, but base my thoughts, etc., on years of detailing experience. Other opinions, thoughts, ideas, are welcome, and encouraged.

So, with all that being said, I'd like to offer anyone who has questions, needs help, is looking for input, etc., in regards to detailing and maintaining their cars appearance my help.

Post your questions, problems, etc., in this forum if you desire.

I will check in as frequently as possible, and do my best to answer your questions and/or provide help and advice.



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Ok, I'm going to clay bar the vehicle and start from scratch. What OTC polishes, waxes do you recomend and what steps? Apply a polish then a sealer wax?

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Ok, I'm going to clay bar the vehicle and start from scratch. What OTC polishes, waxes do you recomend and what steps? Apply a polish then a sealer wax?

Thanks.
Two quality OTC products I've used are Meguires and Mothers.

Steps;

1. Wash with 'Dawn' dish washing liquid to remove prior wax.
2. Clay, using a mixture of car wash/water solution.
3. After claying entire vehicle,wash car with good quality car wash and dry.
4. Begin polishing. A good coat of Meguires or Mothers wax every 6 mo. for a daily driver is sufficient.

I don't use "sealer" waxes. If using wax, I prefer to do a car every 3 months.

Also, be sure and use good quality wash mitts (sheepskin or chenile) as well as towels for drying/polish removal.

Please let me know if you have further questions.

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Two quality OTC products I've used are Meguires and Mothers.

Steps;

1. Wash with 'Dawn' dish washing liquid to remove prior wax.
2. Clay, using a mixture of car wash/water solution.
3. After claying entire vehicle,wash car with good quality car wash and dry.
4. Begin polishing. A good coat of Meguires or Mothers wax every 6 mo. for a daily driver is sufficient.

I don't use "sealer" waxes. If using wax, I prefer to do a car every 3 months.

Also, be sure and use good quality wash mitts (sheepskin or chenile) as well as towels for drying/polish removal.

Please let me know if you have further questions.

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That's a good start. I've used Meguiar's NXT spray wax in the past with good results.

Thanks for the tips.
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So you keep the clay wet when clay barring with a mixture of wash soap and water?
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Hey Ed,

I bought the Zaino Show Car kit. The instructions sent with the kit are a little scant. Lots of different product in the kit. Do you have any advise or directions. Thanks!
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:02 PM   #7
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So you keep the clay wet when clay barring with a mixture of wash soap and water?
You definately want to lubricate the surface where you're claying.

A good "general rule" I go by is a 6" x 6" section at a time when claying; spray the section well with a soap/water solution while moving the clay across the surface with very light pressure.

Make sure and check the clay very often as well as it sill change color (usually black) as the contaminants are removed from the paint and "captured" in the clay. At that point, knead to a clean surface and continue.
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Are painted on stripes or stickers the better way to go? And our dealer is offering some kind of "Scotch-Gard" like sealer for exterior and interior, I've forgotten the name, for $700. They say whatever happens to the seats, GM will replace at no charge. Is this worth it? Thanks so much!
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Hey Ed,

I bought the Zaino Show Car kit. The instructions sent with the kit are a little scant. Lots of different product in the kit. Do you have any advise or directions. Thanks!
First, my advice is to set aside a few hrs., and DON'T be overwhelmed with the steps. Zaino is very easy to use.

Here's a quick summary;

1. Wash with Dawn if the car has been waxed/polished previously.
2. If the car is new, its fine to wash it now with the Zaino car wash.
3. If you have clay, while the car is still wet (not necessary to dry after initial washing) begin claying.
4. Once the entire car has been clayed, wash again with Zaino car wash, drying it completely afterwards.
5. Begin adding coats of polish; hood, roof, trunk - front to back motion
sides - top to bottom motion

* It is recommened by Zaino that you do no more than 3 coats within 24 hrs.

* Make sure and use a good quality towel for drying/polish removal.
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For cleaning windows. Windex using News paper
Rain-X using News Paper.

I have heard paper tows leave lint and have oils in them.
I have been using news paper over the last Well Lot of years. Forget where I heard about the News Paper. But have has good success with the News paper.

Any Pro's or Con's on the news paper?
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:13 PM   #11
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Are painted on stripes or stickers the better way to go? And our dealer is offering some kind of "Scotch-Gard" like sealer for exterior and interior, I've forgotten the name, for $700. They say whatever happens to the seats, GM will replace at no charge. Is this worth it? Thanks so much!
IMO, painted stripes are always preferred.

As for 'Scotch Guard', I'd allow the dealer to do your seats (I'm assuming you have cloth), etc., but NOT "seal" the paint. If they're offering replaced seats (if necessary) after they 'Scotch Guard' them, I'd choose that option, provided they'll do that without having to do the exterior as well.

$700.00 is alot of money. You can save a sizeable amount by doing this yourself.

Personally, I'd save the money and invest in a good quality wax/polish for the exterior.

For the interior, you can purchase cans of 'Scotch Guard' at store's such as 'WalMart', and do it yourself. I've done it many times.
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For cleaning windows. Windex using News paper
Rain-X using News Paper.

I have heard paper tows leave lint and have oils in them.
I have been using news paper over the last Well Lot of years. Forget where I heard about the News Paper. But have has good success with the News paper.

Any Pro's or Con's on the news paper?
Nope. Newspapers are used by alot of detailers.

I've always used 'Stoner's' products as they do a very good job of removing the film which accumulates on the inside of the windshield.

Couple of tips;

* If using 'Stoner's', if possible, use the trigger/non-aerosal bottles. I've found when you first use an aerosal can of 'Stoner's', it leave's a "sticky" residue (possibly the propellant?).

* If using paper towels, pull off the first few sheets. The "glue" used to close the roll when new can also leave streaks.
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You recomend not using a car wash ( hand wand ) what do you use to keep the bugs of the front grill and body , I have already put a screen on the rad , mine is a daily driver so doing it by hand every couple days gets time consuming LOL ( don't mind ) . Will a light power wash hurt the finish ??? Thanks :-)
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Ok, here's my question. I Zaino'ed my car when I first got it (Dawn, Zaino wash, clay, Z2, Z6, Z2, Z6). In two weeks I am getting the glossy bumblebee stripes from Vinylgraphics.net installed. So, what should I do afterwards to re-clean and re-protect the car since I assume the installer will have to strip the Zaino before he installs the vinyl. And should I Zaino the stripes, or just the paint around the stripes?
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First, my advice is to set aside a few hrs., and DON'T be overwhelmed with the steps. Zaino is very easy to use.

Here's a quick summary;

1. Wash with Dawn if the car has been waxed/polished previously.
2. If the car is new, its fine to wash it now with the Zaino car wash.
3. If you have clay, while the car is still wet (not necessary to dry after initial washing) begin claying.
4. Once the entire car has been clayed, wash again with Zaino car wash, drying it completely afterwards.
5. Begin adding coats of polish; hood, roof, trunk - front to back motion
sides - top to bottom motion

* It is recommened by Zaino that you do no more than 3 coats within 24 hrs.

* Make sure and use a good quality towel for drying/polish removal.


Thank You!!
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:57 PM   #16
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The treatment from the dealer I received. Simonized (inside and exterior treatment) $400

the interior is stated as above.
The exterior is to create a glass coat finish on the surface of clear coat.

http://www.simonizusa.com/consumer/C...z_System_5.asp

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I think the seat thing is from the extended warranty, The dealer offered Zurich, said it was a promotion they offered. They also said that they would replace the seats if anything under a 1/4" tear was put on the seats, so if you sit in your car witha screwdriver and puncture the seats then it will be replaced. I got 7 yr 100000 mile bumper to bumper, interior protection, wheel and tire protection, plus 2 free oil changes for 1200.00.

Thanks for the tips on detailing it is a great help Moose.
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You recomend not using a car wash ( hand wand ) what do you use to keep the bugs of the front grill and body , I have already put a screen on the rad , mine is a daily driver so doing it by hand every couple days gets time consuming LOL ( don't mind ) . Will a light power wash hurt the finish ??? Thanks :-)
First, I'd make sure you have a good coat of wax/polish on the front of the vehicle. This will make removal of the bugs, etc., much easier.

If you're referring to a car wash where you pull in and use a quarter operated wand, that's OK. But, you should also be able to rinse the bugs off with a garden hose with decent water pressure.
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Ok, here's my question. I Zaino'ed my car when I first got it (Dawn, Zaino wash, clay, Z2, Z6, Z2, Z6). In two weeks I am getting the glossy bumblebee stripes from Vinylgraphics.net installed. So, what should I do afterwards to re-clean and re-protect the car since I assume the installer will have to strip the Zaino before he installs the vinyl. And should I Zaino the stripes, or just the paint around the stripes?
Let the installer know you Zainoed the area where the stripes are to be installed.

Once they're applied, if they have a "gloss coat" atop them, you can Zaino them. My brother owned a 10th Anniversary Firhawk which had vinyl stripes, and I applied Zaino on them, being careful to avoid the edges. They looked great.

The installer should only have to clean the area where the stripes are being applied.

But to be safe, give then 24 hrs. to "set', then you can Zaino the car and stripes.
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Just talked with my husband and he had it written down! The dealer offered a Auto Armour and Crystal Fusion service for $1200 that was of course on "sale" for $695! The window treatment sounds bogus, supposed to cut glare and halos at night around street lights. We have leather seats, so I don't know about how that Armour stuff would help. And then the exterior stuff was a protect it for life, never need wax type of deal?!
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Just talked with my husband and he had it written down! The dealer offered a Auto Armour and Crystal Fusion service for $1200 that was of course on "sale" for $695! The window treatment sounds bogus, supposed to cut glare and halos at night around street lights. We have leather seats, so I don't know about how that Armour stuff would help. And then the exterior stuff was a protect it for life, never need wax type of deal?!
It's just my opinion, but I'd save that $695.

I've never heard of the window treatment.

$695 will buy you ALOT of wax/polish, leather/interior protection products, and window cleaner.
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It's just my opinion, but I'd save that $695.

I've never heard of the window treatment.

$695 will buy you ALOT of wax/polish, leather/interior protection products, and window cleaner.
Thanks dude! That's kinda what we thought too!
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what products do you recommend for leather interrior, I want to keep it fresh and always new looking and wrinkle free if possiable.


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Should I throw away my polish applicators after use? or can I wash them and re-use?
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Waxing/Sealing New Paint

I read on the forum that a cover should not be used for three months to allow the paint to cure. What about waxing/sealing the paint. I want to use Zaino but how long do I have to wait after taking delivery?
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