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Old 07-06-2009, 01:42 PM   #1
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2010 Camaro V6 vs 2002 Camaro Z28

who would win?
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:48 PM   #2
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Not even close. The Z28.

The 2010 Camaro is a closer match to the 99 Mustang GT.
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:13 PM   #3
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The 02 Z28 had about 320hp and ran somewhere around 13.80 in the 1/4.
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The 02 Z28 had about 320hp and ran somewhere around 13.80 in the 1/4.
on a bad day.

The manuals ranged from 300-320 RWHP and the autos in the 280's-290's RWHP in a 3450-3550 lbs. car.

The V6 so far has put down 240's RWHP and weighs in at 3750 lbs.

Comparing a 13.8 run from an LS1 fbody is the same as comparing it to a 15.0 run from a 5th gen v6.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:25 PM   #5
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My stock 00 z28 ran a 13.4(m6) if that helps
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on a bad day.

The manuals ranged from 300-320 RWHP and the autos in the 280's-290's RWHP in a 3450-3550 lbs. car.

The V6 so far has put down 240's RWHP and weighs in at 3750 lbs.

Comparing a 13.8 run from an LS1 fbody is the same as comparing it to a 15.0 run from a 5th gen v6.
2LT RS weighed in at 3840....

Pulled a 14.698 (ok, call it 14.7)... This is with the morbidly obese driver mod! LOL!



For some odd reason the track just would not give me an accurate trap speed! In either lane! Yet, the cars I was running against were getting good trap speeds...

But yeah... people look at the 304HP and forget to look at things like TQ and Weight...
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:18 PM   #7
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The 02 Z28 had about 320hp and ran somewhere around 13.80 in the 1/4.
They were rated 310hp (but actually put that much to the tires)...

In reality they made 350+hp and were EASILY good for low 13s in the 1/4.

Mine has gone a best of 13.1 @ 108 on a 2.1 60ft with an ok driver behind the wheel... My fiancee has gone 13.1 @ 105 in it and I have dozens of 13.1 ~ 13.3 passes in the car in various conditions. (all 100% bone stock)

A stock 5th gen V6 would be NO CONTEST. Not trying to be an ass about it but there is no point in entertaining the thought that they are close.

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Old 07-07-2009, 01:51 PM   #8
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The fbody was a lighter car, more HP.... simple as that.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:11 PM   #9
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:19 PM   #10
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haha yeah... 2010 wins in styling, MPG, resale, wheel size, valves per cylinder, electronics, leather quality, so on and so on... but not in speed.
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haha yeah... 2010 wins in styling, MPG, resale, wheel size, valves per cylinder, electronics, leather quality, so on and so on... but not in speed.
speed as in a straight line???? I think it depends on how you define speed... I think the new camaro handles a lot better than what I remember the 2002's handled like... as least stock vs stock... so perhaps the 2010 may fair better in the really twisties... LOL
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speed as in a straight line???? I think it depends on how you define speed... I think the new camaro handles a lot better than what I remember the 2002's handled like... as least stock vs stock... so perhaps the 2010 may fair better in the really twisties... LOL
The Fbodies were no slouches in the corners. I think a 2010 v6 will have a hard time beating it. It would be a good review. I guess we'll have to wait for Forza III.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:27 PM   #13
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I've had a few LS1 F-bodies and they "should" beat a 2010 Camaro V6 in every measurable performance category except for mpg. No contest. As has been stated power to weight strongly favors the F-body. So while the chassis certainly isn't as modern as the 5th Gen it was perfected by 2002 and so it allowed the higher power and lighter weight to be handled with ease.
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They were rated 310hp (but actually put that much to the tires)...

In reality they made 350+hp and were EASILY good for low 13s in the 1/4.

Mine was gone a best of 13.1 @ 108 on a 2.1 60ft with an ok driver behind the wheel... My fiancee has gone 13.1 @ 105 in it and I have dozens of 13.1 ~ 13.3 passes in the car in various conditions bone stock.

A stock 5th gen V6 would be NO CONTEST. Not trying to be an ass about it but there is no point in entertaining the thought that they are close.
I love the new Camaros but still have a lot of respect for some of the 4th generation f-bodies. My '97 Z28 is quite quick with the A4 and 3:23 gears. I've driven a 2010 V6 and I'm pretty sure I would spank it.
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I love the new Camaros but still have a lot of respect for some of the 4th generation f-bodies. My '97 Z28 is quite quick with the A4 and 3:23 gears. I've driven a 2010 V6 and I'm pretty sure I would spank it.
My brother ran 13.9 @ 101 in his exgf's 100% stock 97 2.73 A4 Z28. The LT1's had a lot of tq, it's going to be hard to beat those cars if they are running decently.
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haha yeah... 2010 wins in styling, MPG, resale, wheel size, valves per cylinder, electronics, leather quality, so on and so on... but not in speed.
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My brother ran 13.9 @ 101 in his exgf's 100% stock 97 2.73 A4 Z28. The LT1's had a lot of tq, it's going to be hard to beat those cars if they are running decently.
I agree, One thing I love about my LT1 with 3:23's is every time I punch it from a dead stop or a slow roll I always have this feeling " Am I going to survive this ?" The car just honks. We don't have a track close by so I have never run it for true times. I sure love the feeling when I get on her. If I get a new 5th I sure hope it makes me feel the same.
The V6 was quick but did not wow me.
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:33 AM   #18
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My brother ran 13.9 @ 101 in his exgf's 100% stock 97 2.73 A4 Z28. The LT1's had a lot of tq, it's going to be hard to beat those cars if they are running decently.
Nice time...wow... when I had my 1995 LT1 A4 3.23 car it only went 14.1 @ 97mph on a 2.1 60ft bone stock. (At Cordova dragway in the summer but it was all she had).
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:04 AM   #19
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I love the 5th gen, but the 4th gens were no slouch. Very under rated cars that still handle very well and can keep up.


If anything, 4th gen wins cuz of TTops
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btw I've counted 30.1mpgs on my heavy convertible SS and that's with mods
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Nice time...wow... when I had my 1995 LT1 A4 3.23 car it only went 14.1 @ 97mph on a 2.1 60ft bone stock. (At Cordova dragway in the summer but it was all she had).
I think the 97's were just a LITTLE bit stronger (275 hp vs. 285 hp).
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Yep, the horsepower was increased to 285 in 1996, for what that was worth. Respect the LT1 !
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on a bad day.

The manuals ranged from 300-320 RWHP and the autos in the 280's-290's RWHP in a 3450-3550 lbs. car.

The V6 so far has put down 240's RWHP and weighs in at 3750 lbs.

Comparing a 13.8 run from an LS1 fbody is the same as comparing it to a 15.0 run from a 5th gen v6.
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They were rated 310hp (but actually put that much to the tires)...

In reality they made 350+hp and were EASILY good for low 13s in the 1/4.

Mine has gone a best of 13.1 @ 108 on a 2.1 60ft with an ok driver behind the wheel... My fiancee has gone 13.1 @ 105 in it and I have dozens of 13.1 ~ 13.3 passes in the car in various conditions. (all 100% bone stock)

A stock 5th gen V6 would be NO CONTEST. Not trying to be an ass about it but there is no point in entertaining the thought that they are close.
My brother's '02, with a lid, Borla CB, and K&N put down almost 330 at the tire. It was an A4 with 2.73s. My car, with full exhaust, lid, tune, and a 100* day put down more than 360 to the tire. There's not a good chance for that V6 '10 to win unless the LS1 driver can't drive. Those LT1s were putting down from 230 to 260 RWHP too, and shouldn't be taken lightly either.

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Yep, the horsepower was increased to 285 in 1996, for what that was worth. Respect the LT1 !
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I think the 97's were just a LITTLE bit stronger (275 hp vs. 285 hp).


Yeah... I remember the dual cat thing adding power... it didn't help I was running in 2000+ DA the night I ran either.

I'm not sure if those crank numbers were accurate either..if memory serves the LT1s were all making ~300hp...

15% DTL on the 275 rating would be ~234rwhp
15% DTL on the 285 rating would be ~243rwhp

Most of the LT1 cars were seeing 250+ for the autos and 260+ for the manuals...
15% DTL on a 300hp rating would be 255rwhp.
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Here is a site that can add a little fuel to the fire http://www.zeroto60times.com/Chevrol...mph-Times.html
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