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Old 08-05-2013, 09:07 PM   #1
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C5F4 numbers?

What are the number for the fest?
Attendance?
Drivers?
Car show?
Drag?
Camarocross?

I am dying to know, comparing it to last year.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:08 PM   #2
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I heard more drivers than last year, but there were less cars and folks in attendance

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I have heard the numbers were well short of last year but, as above more racers.
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actually we were down in all categories.

This was the best run event we've had. Much smoother than past fests... But, the weather forecasts were bad, even though the weather turned out to be a nonfactor, we think that kept Sat attendance down.

I think the biggest improvements were to Drag Racing, even though we had a few class problems, and CamaroCross for sure... Pete made huge improvements from last year, fixing all of the technical issues they had.

GM had a huge presence... Bigger than any fest in the past.

Otherwise, like I said numbers were noticeably down.

I think we sold 850 total tickes (racers and spectators)

with something like 700 cars and over 30 vendors.

total people in attendance was close to 1000.

I don't have official numbers but that's pretty close.
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I have heard the numbers were well short of last year but, as above more racers.

There wasn't more racers in the drag racing. I think 10 cars in the unlimited class. Last year there was 56. There prob wasn't more than 30 cars racing all wknd on the strip. I bet there was 4 times that last year. Without the TX boys there was a huge void.
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There wasn't more racers in the drag racing. I think 10 cars in the unlimited class. Last year there was 56. There prob wasn't more than 30 cars racing all wknd on the strip. I bet there was 4 times that last year. Without the TX boys there was a huge void.
We've been discussing that in the background also... and with our vendors...

We may have underestimated the excitement of moving to a different spot each year...

Something we'll have to think about...
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We've been discussing that in the background also... and with our vendors...

We may have underestimated the excitement of moving to a different spot each year...

Something we'll have to think about...
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There wasn't more racers in the drag racing. I think 10 cars in the unlimited class. Last year there was 56. There prob wasn't more than 30 cars racing all wknd on the strip. I bet there was 4 times that last year. Without the TX boys there was a huge void.
I was lied to lol. Sorry your car broke man. That sucks bad.

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We've been discussing that in the background also... and with our vendors...

We may have underestimated the excitement of moving to a different spot each year...

Something we'll have to think about...
I figured it would have a negative effect just from the chatter down here since the announcement it was going to be in Indy again. I'm sure a move in venue to TX will make a difference. Oh well, you can't please everyone no matter what.
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We've been discussing that in the background also... and with our vendors...

We may have underestimated the excitement of moving to a different spot each year...

Something we'll have to think about...

Learning curve. Gotta find out what works somehow!!

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I was lied to lol. Sorry your car broke man. That sucks bad.


Shit happens. Apparently even to my car. I'll get her fixed up.


I figured it would have a negative effect just from the chatter down here since the announcement it was going to be in Indy again. I'm sure a move in venue to TX will make a difference. Oh well, you can't please everyone no matter what.

The void left by no Texas crew was huge. I don't think anyone could have predicted that. I have a feeling that next year will be out of control.
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Hopefully not TOO out of control....lol

Yes, numbers were down. But we have great plans for next year. We should be able to get spot on numbers for next year of attendees (sponsors, racers, spectators). We also have some other plans in effect on changing just a couple things up. Should end up being better for everyone.
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We've been discussing that in the background also... and with our vendors...

We may have underestimated the excitement of moving to a different spot each year...

Something we'll have to think about...
This, without a doubt, is the reason fest numbers were down this year. This is what we've been wanting to hear from the mods the whole time. Not the "the sign up is different this year, we're really gonna have a bigger crowd!" stuff. Flat out people didn't want to go to Indy again. Except for well, the people near Indy.

I think putting it in Texas was the best move out of the entire history of Fest. I think that C5 Fest 5 will be truly one for the books.

Thank you mods for putting a Fest in Texas.
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You're going to piss off people, different people from various regions, every time you move it. Can't avoid that unfortunately. Moving it around gives everyone a fair chance.

How about we start doing this twice a year to increase our chances
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Flat out people didn't want to go to Indy again. Except for well, the people near Indy.
I didn't want it in Indy, and I'm right beside it. But the big thing is that we have a great head start towards the next fest. Which we probably couldn't have done if we didn't repeat Indy. No more rush rush, where is the next fest going to be for the next two months. We already have things locked down. And the next fest is only 9 months away
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I cant wait for it to get here next year. We in the Houston area are definitely looking forward to it.
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I didn't want it in Indy, and I'm right beside it. But the big thing is that we have a great head start towards the next fest. Which we probably couldn't have done if we didn't repeat Indy. No more rush rush, where is the next fest going to be for the next two months. We already have things locked down. And the next fest is only 9 months away
Yeah trust me we all know you didn't want it in Indy. Trust me I understand part of the reason why you guys did it.
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This, without a doubt, is the reason fest numbers were down this year. This is what we've been wanting to hear from the mods the whole time. Not the "the sign up is different this year, we're really gonna have a bigger crowd!" stuff. Flat out people didn't want to go to Indy again. Except for well, the people near Indy.

I think putting it in Texas was the best move out of the entire history of Fest. I think that C5 Fest 5 will be truly one for the books.

Thank you mods for putting a Fest in Texas.
We really didn't have time and resources to scope another location. We all had a ton of personal stuff that forced us to repeat in addition to the need to make some improvements to the fest in general. And when you move from the north east to the south you have to give your self a head start since summer in the south is out of the question.







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Yeah trust me we all know you didn't want it in Indy. Trust me I understand part of the reason why you guys did it.
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This, without a doubt, is the reason fest numbers were down this year. This is what we've been wanting to hear from the mods the whole time. Not the "the sign up is different this year, we're really gonna have a bigger crowd!" stuff. Flat out people didn't want to go to Indy again. Except for well, the people near Indy.

I think putting it in Texas was the best move out of the entire history of Fest. I think that C5 Fest 5 will be truly one for the books.

Thank you mods for putting a Fest in Texas.
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I figured the reason for the Indy repeat was simply because there wasn't enough time to get everything together for Texas. I'm pretty happy with the new location though.
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We really didn't have time and resources to scope another location. We all had a ton of personal stuff that forced us to repeat in addition to the need to make some improvements to the fest in general. And when you move from the north east to the south you have to give your self a head start since summer in the south is out of the question.

Trust me. I've been in Florida all my life. You should know that summer is horrible here. I understand why it's in early May. Good thinking there.
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Next year it's gonna be 'Epic'... Everything's bigger in Texas!

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You're going to piss off people, different people from various regions, every time you move it. Can't avoid that unfortunately. Moving it around gives everyone a fair chance.

How about we start doing this twice a year to increase our chances
The thing is you can't keep pissing off the same people year after year. The folks in the intermountain west, the west coast and the northwest have been left on the fringe for years now. Yes, moving to TX is further west but it's also further south. Even folks in San Diego still have a 20 hour drive and that gets worse as you move up the coast. San Francisco: 28 hrs, Portland, OR: 33 hrs. I mean really and I hear some complain about having to drive 3-4 hours

I think you're going to find more and more local events popping up because folks are just tired of being left out.
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Indy is just too far away for me to bring Pumpkin and August is a bad time of the year for me. Not that Texas is any closer then Indy and I probably won't have Pumpkin with me. But I'm planning on flying in for the parking lot party. Not missing the Texas Boy's shooter bar.

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The thing is you can't keep pissing of the same people year after year. The folks in the intermountain west, the west coast and the northwest have been left on the fringe for years now. Yes, moving to TX is further west but it's also further south. Even folks in San Diego still have a 20 hour drive and that gets worse as you move up the coast. San Francisco: 28 hrs, Portland, OR: 33 hrs. I mean really and I hear some complain about having to drive 3-4 hours

I think you're going to find more and more local events popping up because folks are just tired of being left out.
I agree with you, but we can only hope C5F 6 will be Phoenix, Vegas or California.

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You're going to piss off people, different people from various regions, every time you move it. Can't avoid that unfortunately. Moving it around gives everyone a fair chance.

How about we start doing this twice a year to increase our chances
I agree on no one will be happy. But I think keeping it at once a year is perfect. You don't want to oversaturate. Moving it around to different Race track venues to me is a great idea that way people like myself who will probably never see the track at Daytona or Indianapolis Race way in my life have a reason to go see it and experience it. Change is important to keep things fresh.
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The thing is you can't keep pissing off the same people year after year. The folks in the intermountain west, the west coast and the northwest have been left on the fringe for years now. Yes, moving to TX is further west but it's also further south. Even folks in San Diego still have a 20 hour drive and that gets worse as you move up the coast. San Francisco: 28 hrs, Portland, OR: 33 hrs. I mean really and I hear some complain about having to drive 3-4 hours

I think you're going to find more and more local events popping up because folks are just tired of being left out.
Well the problem is they have to find venues large enough to hold the event. And I can't really think of any in the Pacific Northwest that would be suitable.
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