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Old 08-09-2013, 08:31 AM   #26
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Cant wait to get mine installed next week. Got mine at Camaro5 Fest. $1280 plus free shipping to my dealer and Free installation. Thanks GM! I already have the 3.91 and factory ZL1 5 spokes and tires. Should make a world of difference.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:36 AM   #27
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Cant wait to get mine installed next week. Got mine at Camaro5 Fest. $1280 plus free shipping to my dealer and Free installation. Thanks GM! I already have the 3.91 and factory ZL1 5 spokes and tires. Should make a world of difference.
WOW! That was a great deal! congrats That will complete your car. those 3 items working together with the ZL1 short throw shifter is the 1LE for our 2010-2012 model.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:44 AM   #28
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No. except one minor detail, you need to open up the 10mm hole to attach the 12mm front sway bar link bolt.
Why did you have to open the hole, i swapped to the 1LE suspension too, the sway bar was already opened up and the 1LE struts are opened up too, the only ones you need to open up are the standard struts, are you sure they installed the 1LE struts?
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:50 AM   #29
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Why did you have to open the hole, i swapped to the 1LE suspension too, the sway bar was already opened up and the 1LE struts are opened up too, the only ones you need to open up are the standard struts, are you sure they installed the 1LE struts?
Let me confirm with my mechanic.
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Old 08-09-2013, 10:33 AM   #30
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Mike, I had another thought about why your car has a new issue with snap oversteer. Any chance that the alignment may be off, with the new set up? Maybe they didn't properly torque the fasteners and it moved? I remember reading the Motor Trend Viper Vs. ZR1 review, where the Viper was very difficult on the track. They found out later that the alignment was way off. When they returned to the track with the alignment corrected, it drove like a vastly improved car and shaved seconds off of it's lap time.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:40 AM   #31
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Let me confirm with my mechanic.
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My mechanic did not have to widen the strut hole to 12mm. The 1LE kit has the right fit. My mistake. Sorry.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:55 AM   #32
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Why did you have to open the hole, i swapped to the 1LE suspension too, the sway bar was already opened up and the 1LE struts are opened up too, the only ones you need to open up are the standard struts, are you sure they installed the 1LE struts?
2010 vs 2012?
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:04 PM   #33
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Mike, I had another thought about why your car has a new issue with snap oversteer. Any chance that the alignment may be off, with the new set up? Maybe they didn't properly torque the fasteners and it moved? I remember reading the Motor Trend Viper Vs. ZR1 review, where the Viper was very difficult on the track. They found out later that the alignment was way off. When they returned to the track with the alignment corrected, it drove like a vastly improved car and shaved seconds off of it's lap time.
I also wondered if maybe some part of the new components came loose. I do not have much suspension experience, but it seemed to make some sense. I find this thread very interesting.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:51 PM   #34
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Sycraft is correct.
My mechanic did not have to widen the strut hole to 12mm. I had the right fit. My mistake. Sorry.
Mike, can you confirm with your mechanic how he attached the rear sway bar links to your lower control arms? There is apparently a difference between the 2010-11 and '12 and newer lower control arms where the rear sway bar links attach. This is why some people are telling me I need newer model lower control arms. What is pictured in the kit photo are the newer toe links. Thanks.
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Old 08-09-2013, 02:10 PM   #35
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Mike, I had another thought about why your car has a new issue with snap oversteer. Any chance that the alignment may be off, with the new set up? Maybe they didn't properly torque the fasteners and it moved? I remember reading the Motor Trend Viper Vs. ZR1 review, where the Viper was very difficult on the track. They found out later that the alignment was way off. When they returned to the track with the alignment corrected, it drove like a vastly improved car and shaved seconds off of it's lap time.
I've read that too, well, it could be. I need more track time to determine that first. I will bring the car back to the shop to make sure all the bolts are tight and verify if all is good. I will be back at the track the last tuesday of august. Im leaving for vacation for 2 weeks now! I'm heading to the ST-Madeleine Islands of in the St-Lawrence Gulf.
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Old 08-09-2013, 02:13 PM   #36
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2010 vs 2012?
No 2010-12 Struts versus 2013 1LE struts
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Old 08-09-2013, 02:19 PM   #37
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Mike, can you confirm with your mechanic how he attached the rear sway bar links to your lower control arms? There is apparently a difference between the 2010-11 and '12 and newer lower control arms where the rear sway bar links attach. This is why some people are telling me I need newer model lower control arms. What is pictured in the kit photo are the newer toe links. Thanks.
Well He didn't mentionned anything about it. There was no fuzz about anything. He told me all went smooth and the parts fitted very well.
Sorry, I don't have more info about it.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:55 PM   #38
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Mike, one suggestion on the rear sway bar. Pedders told me that the change to the rear sway bar in 2012 was significant in improving the handling. You may want to confirm that there is absolutely no difference between your rear swaybar connection and a 2013 1LE. If there is a difference, I would strongly suggest looking into swapping parts to make it exactly like the 1LE. This really is a magic suspension combo, you're gonna love it when you get it dialed in.
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the rear sway connection the LCA'a is in a hole in the outboard portion of the LCA, the 2012 has it, the 2010 and 2011 must be changed.
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Old 08-09-2013, 05:49 PM   #40
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the rear sway connection the LCA'a is in a hole in the outboard portion of the LCA, the 2012 has it, the 2010 and 2011 must be changed.
Can the 2010 be upgraded to 2012+?
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Can the 2010 be upgraded to 2012+?
yes, direct bolt in.....
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Old 08-09-2013, 06:24 PM   #42
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In the GM performance catalog they "mention" the tire/wheel setup of the 1LE below the 1LE track pack upgrade.

Reading this it makes me feel like they are trying to push you down the path of a tire/wheel change to obtain the full benefits.
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Old 08-09-2013, 10:44 PM   #43
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In the GM performance catalog they "mention" the tire/wheel setup of the 1LE below the 1LE track pack upgrade.

Reading this it makes me feel like they are trying to push you down the path of a tire/wheel change to obtain the full benefits.
The wheels and tires make a big difference. That is no secret. Wider stickier rubber on forged wheels is a huge plus to the overall package.
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Old 08-10-2013, 12:09 AM   #44
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^ exactly what he said..Wheel/tire combo would help way more than just adding sways.
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Old 08-10-2013, 10:47 AM   #45
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I've read that too, well, it could be. I need more track time to determine that first. I will bring the car back to the shop to make sure all the bolts are tight and verify if all is good. I will be back at the track the last tuesday of august. Im leaving for vacation for 2 weeks now! I'm heading to the ST-Madeleine Islands of in the St-Lawrence Gulf.
Wow, I want your life. At least the track and vacation parts.

How did you record that three camera video with the add-on stuff?

It is also so cool that you pushed the stock SS setup so hard and now can really appreciate the 1LE improvements. I hope you get that oversteer sorted out. My 1LE understeers just a little, I guess they all do. It is a little comforting for me with my very light track experience, but neutral is more fun.

I would love to track more, but have a hard time spending the $$ to do it. With NJ Motorsports park so close to me, I feel like I am missing out.
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:56 PM   #46
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How did you record that three camera video with the add-on stuff?
ESPN sports network provides the editing!
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:49 PM   #47
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:52 PM   #48
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i have 1le wheels and tires

They are great
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Old 09-01-2013, 10:25 PM   #49
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Cant wait to get mine installed next week. Got mine at Camaro5 Fest. $1280 plus free shipping to my dealer and Free installation. Thanks GM! I already have the 3.91 and factory ZL1 5 spokes and tires. Should make a world of difference.
I heard from another member that the 1LE package is on backorder and that the installation voucher expires on September 3rd...
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They are great
So, I gather you wound up putting them on your car without the 1LE track pack? If so, what was the difference with the feel of the car? I'm sure it felt more "planted".

I purchased the 1LE track pack at Camaro5 Fest and it was a big improvement in the overall handling of the car. The free installation was the deal of the show! Now I need to put the money saved on the install towards the 1LE 10 spokes and tires. I hear they are the real key to completing the total handling experience of an 1LE. They are so expensive right now that I am torn between going with OEM or replica wheels. If I were to buy a new SS today, I would absolutely get the 1LE option. Best bang for the buck out there for a Camaro today.
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