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Old 10-17-2014, 12:16 PM   #1
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Angry 2013 ZL1 Both Rear Struts are BLOWN (44,000 Miles)

I just replaced both rear struts at almost $1000 for the pair of struts (no labor). I have just over 44,000 miles on the car. Here are a few pictures of what I took out !!

Has anyone else had the same issue??
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Old 10-17-2014, 12:22 PM   #2
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no warranty????
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Old 10-17-2014, 12:24 PM   #3
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no warranty????
GM gives a 3 Year OR 36,000 mile warranty. Read the original post above (44,000 miles)
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Old 10-17-2014, 12:47 PM   #4
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You didn't need to cut the wires...you can "depin" the weatherpack. I had mine out yesterday and they were dry. I only have 13K miles.
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:14 PM   #5
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I didn't have anything on hand to get the old pins out of the connector so I improvised.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:08 PM   #6
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Somebody else had posted the made it 60k or so, and that GM told him that they don't last long.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:09 PM   #7
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Out of curiosity, besides the obvious wetness on the struts, did something else make you look at them? Like, did you notice anything changing in the ride quality or handling? I ask because I've been fighting a weird rear suspension problem and the dealership hasn't been able to find anything.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:13 PM   #8
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70000 km is not bad.
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Old 10-17-2014, 03:15 PM   #9
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Sounds pretty close to the life I got out of normal struts in my other GM vehicles.
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Old 10-17-2014, 03:26 PM   #10
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Out of curiosity, besides the obvious wetness on the struts, did something else make you look at them? Like, did you notice anything changing in the ride quality or handling? I ask because I've been fighting a weird rear suspension problem and the dealership hasn't been able to find anything.
Yes, I noticed the ride of the ZL1 was more like a bagged and lowered Honda Civic with NO SUSPENSION. My butt feeling was right on, I had ordered the struts long before I noticed the wetness on the struts. It was almost not drivable. It felt like riding in a car with square wheels !!! It's a shame that GM cannot buy product that will last more that this and and on top of that charge almost $1000 for 2 struts is a bit extreme !!
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:05 PM   #11
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are there no aftermarket versions for replacements?

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Old 10-17-2014, 04:14 PM   #12
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are there no aftermarket versions for replacements?

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I didn't find any so I replaced with the new part # from GM: 20942614. I did have the GM Wholesale part guy tell me that the OE numbers that were on the struts didn't come up in their system at all as being a good part number. Makes me wonder if GM knew the parts were not up to par and put them on anyways !!
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:24 PM   #13
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I guess at times we just have to deal with it. I ended up with an 1100.00 mistake, the rear end tail happy kind of mistake! I had to replace the LCA and have two wheels repaired. I would hope I get the same mileage out of my struts. How long were you expecting them to last?
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Old 10-17-2014, 06:39 PM   #14
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I know you are upset, but they are a wear item. 44K miles is a tad bit premature, but it's not out of the question:

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The short answer? Experts recommend replacing shocks every 50,000 miles (80,467 kilometers), but a great deal depends on how you treat your vehicle's suspension.
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Old 10-17-2014, 07:12 PM   #15
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Yes, I noticed the ride of the ZL1 was more like a bagged and lowered Honda Civic with NO SUSPENSION. My butt feeling was right on, I had ordered the struts long before I noticed the wetness on the struts. It was almost not drivable. It felt like riding in a car with square wheels !!! It's a shame that GM cannot buy product that will last more that this and and on top of that charge almost $1000 for 2 struts is a bit extreme !!
Welcome to Mag Ride. It isn't free. $500 a strut isn't that bad IMO...
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Old 10-17-2014, 07:14 PM   #16
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I work in the auto industry and I know all about "wear items" and how long they should last. They SHOULDN'T HAVE BLOWN in 44,000 miles. They might get weak, a little more bouncy maybe, but not both seals completely blown. I have been in the auto industry since 1993 so I have a little experience !!
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Old 10-17-2014, 08:53 PM   #17
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44,000 is too soon. I completely agree.
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Old 10-17-2014, 09:40 PM   #18
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44k geeeez. i'm personally getting tired of gm. Been driving their stuff for a long time too.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:07 AM   #19
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Mine were the ones that went out at 60k. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375263

They are shock absorbers not struts...if you're wondering what the difference is, the strut is covered under warranty, factory and extended and a shock absorber isn't, beside that I have no idea what the difference is. The front is labeled a strut in the service manual, however, I was told that the MRC cartridge may be classed as an absorber and therefore not covered. I was also told that its normal for them to wear out and it happens on other cars with the MRC just as often like the corvette, caddy and HHR, so its not just a ZL1 thing.
I think its just one of those things nobody budgeted for, so now I've added $2000 to my budget to replace front and back absorbers every 50-60k. I'd recommend to others to do the same especially if you have bad roads or track they car.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:10 AM   #20
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It is a strut and that's how it is listed in the GM Parts manual and mine didn't wear out, the seals blew. Either way, I have NEVER owned a vehicle that had this issue at 44,000 miles.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:49 AM   #21
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this is a strut. a shock does not have a spring perch.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:58 AM   #22
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Trust me, its a shock absorber. I'm aware the online parts stores call it a strut, but the service manual and official gm parts manual call it a shock absorber. The service manual calls the front a strut, and while I haven't had to go toe to toe over the warranty for it yet, my service guy said they may deny it if it also leaks because the GMPP warranty may class the cartridge as a shock absorber. Hopefully it hold out and doesn't become an issue.
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Old 10-18-2014, 04:10 AM   #23
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Maybe it's a case of circumstance. Just cause yours went out at 44k doesn't mean that all z's will. Maybe it has to do with your driving style /manners, or maybe you just got unlucky.
Either way it's a wear and tear part , No matter if your car is a ZL1 or a 500,000 dollar Ferrari.... suspension is always going to be wear and tear and need replacement with mileage...

Definitely wouldn't call it an 'issue'
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:41 AM   #24
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Is the cost $1k because it has the MRC fluid in it, or is this not the part that stores that fluid?
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:46 AM   #25
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Price doesn't include shipping, but an online retailer has that part number at $742 for two.

I agree with others, although 44k seems premature, it all depends on driving style, roads etc. I've also seen people on here balk about tire prices, brake prices etc. One should know that a car with the sportiness and technology of the ZL1, things are going to be more expensive when it's time to replace them.

Good luck on the labor end of things and happy driving!
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