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Old 01-03-2015, 04:12 AM   #1
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Why all used ZL1's auto?

Ok ZL1 guys I got questions, I found nine used zl1's for sale in ashen gray but ALL are automatics, why? I want a manuel and find myself tryin to convince me to get an auto cause i found some good used deals for color i want. Is this due to popularity of the manual? Or unpopularity of manual? Not sure i can go to paddle shifting from a shifter.
Next question is the zl1 an l99 in autos like the ss? If so how does it achieve the same 580hp?
Not sure if i should suck it up and go auto to get into one or not and hold for the manual in gray which used may be hard to find. I am bored with my ss and it might get traded or sold anyways. Help me figure this out, you all know way more zl1 wise then I.
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:15 AM   #2
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Wait for a manual. They are all LSA motors.
I had a 2010 RJT too. Traded it in my my zl1.
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Old 01-03-2015, 06:16 AM   #3
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Both the auto and the manual have the LSA motor.

I've owned and raced manuals exclusively for over 20 years. That said I test drove both the manual and auto Zl1 and bought the auto.

Here's why:
- Traffic (Tired of driving the manual in heavy traffic)
- Quicker / more consistent for drag racing. Once you get in the 10 second and low 11 second range the auto is more consistent and easier to hook than the manual.
- The auto has less driveline slop than the manual
- TCM programming is pretty intelligent and is pretty fun on the street and the road course both in sport mode and using the paddles. (I'm primarily a drag racer though)
- Nostalgia - My first Camaro I bought over 20 years ago was a black automatic.
- The auto in these cars is pretty indestructible

It's all personal preference but that's why I bought the auto and am perfectly happy with it. One thing about the auto is that it's deceptively fast. (As is the car is in general) I have to have the HUD up as just cruising around you can drive double the speed limit and not really notice lol.
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Old 01-03-2015, 07:58 AM   #4
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Both the auto and the manual have the LSA motor.

I've owned and raced manuals exclusively for over 20 years. That said I test drove both the manual and auto Zl1 and bought the auto.

Here's why:
- Traffic (Tired of driving the manual in heavy traffic)
- Quicker / more consistent for drag racing. Once you get in the 10 second and low 11 second range the auto is more consistent and easier to hook than the manual.
- The auto has less driveline slop than the manual
- TCM programming is pretty intelligent and is pretty fun on the street and the road course both in sport mode and using the paddles. (I'm primarily a drag racer though)
- Nostalgia - My first Camaro I bought over 20 years ago was a black automatic.
- The auto in these cars is pretty indestructible

It's all personal preference but that's why I bought the auto and am perfectly happy with it. One thing about the auto is that it's deceptively fast. (As is the car is in general) I have to have the HUD up as just cruising around you can drive double the speed limit and not really notice lol.
^^^THIS^^^
Mine is a manual but that is because that is what my dealer had in stock. I would not hesitate to buy the auto for any reason, ESPECIALLY if I was going to race the car.

Remember - you won't miss a shift in an auto nor can you out shift one built like the 6L90 in the ZL1.

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Old 01-03-2015, 11:19 AM   #5
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I think more people prefer the automatic that's why there's so many of them. When the dealer picks them up it seems to me always have more automatics, Better for resale . If I remember correctly in 2012 or 2013 the inventory were almost split down the middle with the manuals just a little bit higher. One day the manuals will be bye bye sorry to say
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Old 01-03-2015, 12:24 PM   #6
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Every sport car I have owned has always been a manual shift. About 5 years ago I bought a Buick Grand National and they only came with auto's just to have a car to play around with.I did alot of mods to it and the car was a fun car and that is when I started liking the auto trans. I thought alot about going to a manual in the Z but I also knew what the cost of clutches are now days and labor to replace that if I had to. I read everything I could find out about these cars before I bought one and all said the auto was almost bullitt proof and trouble free. It also was quicker in the quarter mile times,being that was what I was buying it for in the first place. I am not sorry in the least that I went with the auto and if I want it to shift like a standard I just use the paddles to do that.
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:22 PM   #7
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Good opinions so far. Im tempted as the zl1 is in the high 30's with 28k mileage..
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:28 PM   #8
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For your information,

I have seen several times these vehicles listed as automatic, and upon looking into the vehicle with pictures on the dealer's website, they SOMETIMES turn out to be a MANUAL. 3 pedals. Baggy shifter boot.

Just something to look into. It really sucks when this is the case, but sometimes dealers don't really care if they get the listing 100% right on the website.

This is all if you've only been window surfing on the internet. I'd you've gone in person to look at those cars and saw for your own eyes it was an automatic 9 times then never mind.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:08 PM   #9
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Good point. Yeah mostly net shopping and lookin at the inside pics and seeing the autos. The deal is in LA so might not make the effort as its six hrs away incase car ends up not so good. Dealer has very mixed reviews.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:36 PM   #10
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High 30's that seems like a good offer no? What year 2012 or 13?
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:46 PM   #11
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Both the auto and the manual have the LSA motor.

I've owned and raced manuals exclusively for over 20 years. That said I test drove both the manual and auto Zl1 and bought the auto.

Here's why:
- Traffic (Tired of driving the manual in heavy traffic)
- Quicker / more consistent for drag racing. Once you get in the 10 second and low 11 second range the auto is more consistent and easier to hook than the manual.
- The auto has less driveline slop than the manual
- TCM programming is pretty intelligent and is pretty fun on the street anthe road course both in sport mode and using the paddles. (I'm primarily a drag racer though)
- Nostalgia - My first Camaro I bought over 20 years ago was a black automatic.
- The auto in these cars is pretty indestructible

It's all personal preference but that's why I bought the auto and am perfectly happy with it. One thing about the auto is that it's deceptively fast. (As is the car is in general) I have to have the HUD up as just cruising around you can drive double the speed limit and not really notice lol.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:23 PM   #12
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Auto here and it never disappoints. 600 plus to the rears and never misses a beat. I really wouldn't know why anyone would be dissapoints after driving one.
Use the paddles just right and it's almost like driving a stick. Sorry m6 guys. Lol
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:29 PM   #13
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I think more people prefer the automatic that's why there's so many of them. When the dealer picks them up it seems to me always have more automatics, Better for resale . If I remember correctly in 2012 or 2013 the inventory were almost split down the middle with the manuals just a little bit higher. One day the manuals will be bye bye sorry to say
Actually, there were more ZL1's built with manual than auto.

---------auto-----manual
2012----671------1300
2013----3798-----4158
2014----1097-----1339
2015-----TBD
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Don't waste your money on an auto, wait it out and do it yourself, accomplishments at the drags trip are more fulfilling when you do it yourself
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Seems like every year though the manual is declining then
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:10 PM   #16
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Seems like every year though the manual is declining then
Convertibles (starting in 13) had more autos than manual so that skews it but, yes. FYI- There is a lot of info on ZL1 Registry dot com
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:02 PM   #17
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Seems like every year though the manual is declining then
I would expect that trend to continue with the 6th gen as well. Considering the 2016 CTS-V is not offered with a manual and the performance of the new A8 is so good eventually the manual may disappear altogether.
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:26 PM   #18
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34k miles and its a 2012.
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I like the ZL1 with either tranny as I have driven both, but the auto is still more impressive IMHO. If you never intend to race the car at the track, get the 6spd.
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Every sport car I have owned has always been a manual shift. About 5 years ago I bought a Buick Grand National and they only came with auto's just to have a car to play around with.
I had three different '87 Grand Nationals and an '87 GNX (#281) over the years. They are wickedly sick rides and the 200R4 trans, when built properly, could take a lot of abuse. I owned my last one over 12 years and it ran mid-11's all day long with the mods I did to it.

I love the intercooled Grand National and my ZL1 reminds of my GNs a lot.
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I have to agree with this. When I was looking for an SS, Every time I found a ZL1 used at a dealership. It was an automatic transmission!?!?
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Old 01-03-2015, 09:13 PM   #23
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As good as the auto is, so is the manual. The auto maybe a tenth faster but it's also the car shifting not you. Less fulfilling in my eyes. Comes down to personal preference and it seems you prefer manual. Don't settle, the right deal is out there and will come along. If you do decide to settle you will have the longing to shift, been there, done that. You can't fix boredom.

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Old 01-03-2015, 11:41 PM   #24
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Actually, there were more ZL1's built with manual than auto.

---------auto-----manual
2012----671------1300
2013----3798-----4158
2014----1097-----1339
2015-----TBD

Seems to me like the autos are more available due to the fact that more people are trading in/selling their autos and people with the manuals are keeping them....


I would NEVER in a million years buy a sports car with an auto transmission. Manual all the way.

Before I bought the ZL1 I considered looking at a gently used GTR. Test drove one and loved almost everything about it, but I just could not get over the auto transmission with no manual option in a car like that. Sure it shifts fast and you can use the paddle shifters, but its just not the same. Using a manual in a fast car is just more fun. Hell even in my winter beater 4 banger a manual would be more fun.
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A manual for the fun factor, I just like to shift!
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