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Old 12-30-2013, 12:07 PM   #276
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It would be nice, they probably will be available on their performance site near the end of next year lol.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:56 PM   #277
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This is one of the things I think GM is dropping the ball on. All these performance parts in the waiting and no news at all, at least just give a update. I would like to have the seats and the cai from the z. I will wait as long as i takes, but there are others that won't, and thats the sad part where money is lost.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:25 PM   #278
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A local dealership here has them in a 1LE, I tried them out and I really like how they hug you. I could really use them for AutoX, If you've seen my videos I have to lean really far into the turn. These would help keep me from needing to do that plus give the ability to use a 5 point harness.
I know this was a while ago you posted this, but are you from savannah? Reason I ask, if the car you are talking about was at Dan Vaden, then that is the 1LE I purchased right before Thanksgiving.. What a small world if it is..
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:00 PM   #279
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Just outside Savannah, we have a meet coming up if your in the area. The car I sat in was in Hinesville at Mike Reed Chevy. I believe it's still there.
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Old 01-02-2014, 08:26 PM   #280
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Man, would I ever love a set of these Ricaros in my Z.
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Old 01-02-2014, 10:40 PM   #281
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I know this was a while ago you posted this, but are you from savannah? Reason I ask, if the car you are talking about was at Dan Vaden, then that is the 1LE I purchased right before Thanksgiving.. What a small world if it is..
I did some seat time in the one from Vaden before Thanksgiving while my car was being serviced and it felt really good.
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Old 01-02-2014, 11:38 PM   #282
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Happy New Year to everyone. For anyone new to this thread, we are still looking for part numbers for entire ZL1 Recaro seat units for our cars.

If anyone in the southern US is going to order a new ZL1 but is NOT going to order their cars with the Recaro Seats, send me a PM, maybe we can make a deal.
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:28 AM   #283
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Happy New Year to everyone. For anyone new to this thread, we are still looking for part numbers for entire ZL1 Recaro seat units for our cars.

If anyone in the southern US is going to order a new ZL1 but is NOT going to order their cars with the Recaro Seats, send me a PM, maybe we can make a deal.
Echoing what he said, if anyone in the PA area is thinking of doing the same let me know.
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Old 01-03-2014, 10:12 AM   #284
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:28 PM   #285
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Hey, whatever it takes! Chevy is not exactly expediting our chances to buy these seats over the counter.
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Old 01-03-2014, 02:50 PM   #286
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Old 01-03-2014, 03:33 PM   #287
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Old 01-03-2014, 05:33 PM   #288
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:33 AM   #289
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:37 PM   #290
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I don't know if any of you guys are tracking the Z/28 release but one of the comments that Michael Wayland made regarding recaro seats specifically related to the z/28 is that they had an agreement with Recaro stating you could not purchase those seats unless they came in the car. It also mentions the ZL1 recaro seats in a similar context.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333759

If I'm reading into this correctly the only way you will get those seats is from salvage or from a new car purchase.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:51 PM   #291
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^in regards to post 290, what about appealing to Chevy for an alternative, such as a similar seat kit (aftermarket) to fit the Camaro, or the OEM seat kit but unmarked.

Its ashame to keep these seats from being available. I'm sure something could be worked out.
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:07 PM   #292
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I don't know if any of you guys are tracking the Z/28 release but one of the comments that Michael Wayland made regarding recaro seats specifically related to the z/28 is that they had an agreement with Recaro stating you could not purchase those seats unless they came in the car. It also mentions the ZL1 recaro seats in a similar context.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333759

If I'm reading into this correctly the only way you will get those seats is from salvage or from a new car purchase.
Sorry, but I have read that article several times and I do not see where you are seeing that the seats won't become available as a performance part for those that want them.
If you are referring to the following quote, it is all in the context of the comment or how you read it:
“This is really a win-win," he said. “We won’t sell a seat without the car, so we have a real interest that the OEMs support us and we have an interest to support them.”
I take this as if GM and Ford or the other companies didn't make performance cars, then there would not be a need for a performance seat. Not that they will only sell seats to those that already own the specific cars. It is in Recaro's best interest to have the manufacture putting the seats in as a stock item vs having people buy them as an aftermarket upgrade. More sales for Recaro, because how many people will actually upgrade their seats through the aftermarket vs having a included or optional performance seat from the factory. Yes, I know there are people that do and will upgrade even is these don't become available.
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Sorry, but I have read that article several times and I do not see where you are seeing that the seats won't become available as a performance part for those that want them.
If you are referring to the following quote, it is all in the context of the comment or how you read it:
“This is really a win-win," he said. “We won’t sell a seat without the car, so we have a real interest that the OEMs support us and we have an interest to support them.”
I take this as if GM and Ford or the other companies didn't make performance cars, then there would not be a need for a performance seat. Not that they will only sell seats to those that already own the specific cars. It is in Recaro's best interest to have the manufacture putting the seats in as a stock item vs having people buy them as an aftermarket upgrade. More sales for Recaro, because how many people will actually upgrade their seats through the aftermarket vs having a included or optional performance seat from the factory. Yes, I know there are people that do and will upgrade even is these don't become available.
I am hoping you are right and the Recaros are made available to other Camaro owners that want a better, safer seat for track work without going aftermarket and losing the correct air bags for our cars.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:29 PM   #294
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“We won’t sell a seat without the car, so we have a real interest that the OEMs support us and we have an interest to support them.”
That is the quote. Recaro has been selling racing seats long before Ford and GM were interested in outsourcing to them. If you don't sell a seat without the car then it will not be available in the aftermarket. That is exactly how I read it. You can buy a lot of seats from Recaro distributors. If you do a search you can get a Recaro seat, not the seat in our Camaros but you can get a Recaro seat.

I hope I'm wrong. I'm going to buy lighter seats for my car eventually and I would love to put in the high quality seats that Recaro is supplying for GM but as of yet they have not been available through the GM parts department and at least for now, this may explain why.
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Yes I know they have been selling seats for the aftermarket for years, but it is a small niche market and they are not the only seat company that does. From a business stand point it is better to have seats installed at the factory and have more sales, than wait for people to buy them as an aftermarket product. That is how I was taking that statement about not selling the seat without a car. I don't know which take on it is correct, but I am hoping my take is because I would like to have the factory version in my car. For me, I would have done the option to get them if they were available at the time. I won't buy a pure race seat since my car is a DD and I don't run autoX or road course often enough to justify the cost or hassle of changing the seat out every time. I would spend the money on the factory version and sell my stock ones if I can get them.
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For whatever it's worth I thought I remember reading fbodfather post that they would be available to retro fit, but they'd be pricey. I'm patiently waiting for that to happen, but at this rate I may have to start searching for some aftermarket Recardos with ZL-Uno logos...
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I'm told by our engineering group that yes, you can retro-fit the Recaros -- they have the airbags and sensors in them......but it isn't an inexpensive proposition.
If you want to take that to mean that you have to buy the whole car to get them, then be my guest.

You can't buy the seats from Recaro... but you will be able to buy them from GM when they make them available through the parts catalog. I've heard various sensible reasons that they aren't yet, but I've no doubt that they'll be available... and super expensive like fbodfather said.

I'm pretty sure that danvillekid interpreted it right.
If Recaro sells GM only the seats that they physically put in the cars, what happens when something in the seat breaks and GM has to cover it under warranty? They aren't going to put standard seats back in, that's for sure.
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If you want to take that to mean that you have to buy the whole car to get them, then be my guest.

You can't buy the seats from Recaro... but you will be able to buy them from GM when they make them available through the parts catalog. I've heard various sensible reasons that they aren't yet, but I've no doubt that they'll be available... and super expensive like fbodfather said.

I'm pretty sure that danvillekid interpreted it right.
If Recaro sells GM only the seats that they physically put in the cars, what happens when something in the seat breaks and GM has to cover it under warranty? They aren't going to put standard seats back in, that's for sure.
They'll replace the whole seat. Just like they do with almost everything else.
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Exactly.
Yep, and it will a one for one exchange, if you don't send in the original Recaro you don't get a new Recaro back.
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