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Old 10-19-2014, 10:20 PM   #1
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Smile LNC2000 & NOS Mini 2 stage controller install 15974

I will start doing the wiring part of my install tomorrow and got the solenoids wired up, but am confused on the wiring of the Nos mini controller. The lnc2000 looks ok so far. I have spoken with nitrous outlet and they have sent me a diagram with the wiring but lost to where the wires are located on the vehicle and the picture of the window switch which is not the same as mine. mine is 15974 and he has something else in the picture and I don't want to wire mine if it is not the same. If you guys have any experience with this set up and got tips for this install that would be great. Thanks

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Old 10-21-2014, 01:10 AM   #2
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Tach Signal and TPS wire location?

Im coming close to the end of my install and have a few wires left for the window switch. Im confused on where to tap in for theTPS. I took pics off the connector with all the colored wires? Am i tapping into those lines or soldering? All need help with the tach signal. I also took pictures off the harness. I read somewhere and it said to tap into the blue/white line. In the picture it already has the lnc2000 connected. This would be a great help. Thanks again
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:19 AM   #3
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No hands on experience with this stuff but I'll try to help out. I also saw on other sites where LPE reps said to call them if you had any issues wiring their stuff.

This post should help you figure out the TPS signal wire
(mentions the light green wire as being 0v-5v)
Here's the wiring extension mentioned in the post
or
This one (mentions the purple wire being the "rising" TPS signal wire)


From what I have read, the purple wire for the #1 coil pack will give an RPM signal.

However,
Here's a link to autometer's tach adapter instructions that might shed some light as you can see the wires in the photos they used. They are wiring their stuff to the pink/black wire
http://www.autometer.com/techinfo_ne...px?pg=1&aid=10

Another place to pick up RPM signal (for coils) is at the PCM, the gray connector (X2 it is designated) at Pin 75 (dark green wire). The Raptor shift light uses this wire for RPM. Both PCM connectors look black until you disconnect them, then you can see where one is gray and one is black where it interfaces with the PCM.
From this thread:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60745

Also, found this diagram:
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Old 10-21-2014, 07:56 AM   #4
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Yes, blue w/white for tach. Post #11 in thread.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...29#post7056329
Will look at the N.O. tps extension harness tonight, if I can, to verify wire.
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So I spoke with Nitrous outlet and this is the wire diagram that they gave me. Everything went ok for the most part, wire into the TPS and the tach signal. I went and to swap out the coil harness that came with the LNC2000, one for the driver side and passenger. Once I connected them and started the car, my afr was at 10.5 for some odd reason. It did show a arm (red Light) and the green light was blinking. the arm button was off so I don't know what could have caused this, once I swapped the coil harness back to the original position, the car would start right up with no problem. Has anybody had any experience with this. I the 12v that are powering the lnc2000 is the mini nos but have not set that up yet. any help would be great. maybe im suppose to attach the harness when im about to get a tune ?
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How much are you going to spray?

Who's tuning it?
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75 shot for now since i have a supercharger. Pat G will be doing the tune
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75 shot for now since i have a supercharger. Pat G will be doing the tune
Cool..at least Patrick knows what he's doing.

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Cool..at least Patrick knows what he's doing.

75 will be fun
Yeah, he definitely knows what he is doing when it comes to tuning... Its the wiring part that gets me.. He just wrote me back and said he would get with Kurt to see if this diagram looks right..
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Going to be watching this thread as I'm trying to figure out the wiring for the same controller.
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The diagram they sent you looks pretty much the same as the one I sent you. What problem are you having?

I powered my LNC-2000 off the driver's side dash. It is powered all the time when the key is on, but will only remove timing if it gets the input from the NOS mini controller.
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The diagram they sent you looks pretty much the same as the one I sent you. What problem are you having?

I powered my LNC-2000 off the driver's side dash. It is powered all the time when the key is on, but will only remove timing if it gets the input from the NOS mini controller.
Its kinda hard to explain over the computer but I will try my best. I got everything wired like the diagram above except the FPSS. The 85 relay is just grounded. now when I start the vehicle my afr goes wack and the car sounds like its starving. The lnc2000 red light is on and the green light is blinking. Once I swap out the coil harness to the factory ones, the car starts right up. Am I suppose to install the harness right when I get the tune? I thought it was suppose to blink green whenever I turn the arm switch on? anybody can call or text me 361-683-9514 if they got any tips. I am getting power to the control panel. All leds are working.
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I'm sure you have these, but I'll post it anyways.

https://www.mpsracing.com/instructions/NOS/15974NOS.pdf
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/media/t...structions.pdf

Check that manual on page 4, and you can figure out what the green blink means. Whatever it's flashing for, it's flashing because the module is activated. You have it wired wrong somewhere.

Give it keyed +12 and GND like you have already done obviously. Then hook it all up to the coil packs without the orange wire connected. This should stop the green blinking and the car not running right.

Then take a look at the diagram I sent you a little closer and make sure you're running the right output from the NOS mini controller to the right input on the LNC-2000. It should be the yellow wire from the NOS mini to the orange wire on the LNC-2000.
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With the wiring in post #5, arming the system will also trigger the retarding function of the LNC. But not till above 1k rpm, bc the LNC retard does not function below 1k. Could use "output 1", but it is a sink not a source of +12. So a relay would need to be added so that the orange wire of the LNC would get +12 to activate the retard function.
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I'm sure you have these, but I'll post it anyways.

https://www.mpsracing.com/instructions/NOS/15974NOS.pdf
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/media/t...structions.pdf

Check that manual on page 4, and you can figure out what the green blink means. Whatever it's flashing for, it's flashing because the module is activated. You have it wired wrong somewhere.

Give it keyed +12 and GND like you have already done obviously. Then hook it all up to the coil packs without the orange wire connected. This should stop the green blinking and the car not running right.

Then take a look at the diagram I sent you a little closer and make sure you're running the right output from the NOS mini controller to the right input on the LNC-2000. It should be the yellow wire from the NOS mini to the orange wire on the LNC-2000.
The LNC 2000 rdoes not require an external power and gnd connection.
Orange is the +12 input for retard.
Yellow is the +12 input for launch control or upper rpm
Green is the ground input for launch control or upper rpm
Gray is an analog out to datalog retard
Plug is for a MAP sensor
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The LNC 2000 rdoes not require an external power and gnd connection.
Orange is the +12 input for retard.
Yellow is the +12 input for launch control or upper rpm
Green is the ground input for launch control or upper rpm
Gray is an analog out to datalog retard
Plug is for a MAP sensor
You're right... it has been a while.
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Well guys, it looks like I will be sending off the LNC2000 back to Lingenfelter today. Pretty much all day trying to troubleshoot it, checking the connections, pins, swapping out the harnesses and such. No luck whatsoever. I was getting a solid red light when I had the harness plugged in but the car sounded like it was misfiring and my afr would drop to 10.0, no blinking green light or anything, just a solid red power indication light. Nothing else was hooked up, made all all the pins were connected and not loose and could not find anything, called lingenfelter and they just said to return it back to them. Gotta give a thanks to "Badbubba" for helping throughout the day yesterday trying to troubleshoot this damn thing. Hopefully the turn over process does not take long so I can continue and finish this build.
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Tps is the green wire.
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Tps is the green wire.

Ok, i tapped into the purple wire. Since nitrous outlet reall didnt specify which one to splice into. What would be the differenct between the purple or green wire. other than the rising or falling signal? What does that mean? Thanks

Tach Wire: Passenger side of vehicle – Main coil harness plug – Top row of wires – second wire form the left
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Ok, i tapped into the purple wire. Since nitrous outlet reall didnt specify which one to splice into. What would be the differenct between the purple or green wire. other than the rising or falling signal? What does that mean? Thanks
The TPS signals are 0-5v signals. When you hear people say rising, they mean the signal is 0 when closed and approaching 5v at WOT. Falling is the opposite. Closed is 5v and close to 0v at WOT. I have also read the rising (purple) signal is a digital signal whereas the falling (green) is normal DC voltage. I have read (and experienced myself) that the purple wire is inconsistent with window switches. FWIW, Nitrous Outlet's adapter cable uses the green wire. I tried the purple wire with my Lingenfelter RPM-002 switch and it was inconsistent. When I switched to the green wire, it worked every time.
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Rising and falling usually just means which edge of the digital pulse is read. Rising edge is the front side of a wave, falling is the back side of a wave. You should be able to use either one by programming the controller with the box it came with. Probably involving the tach signal not TPS.
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Green wire is falling. Neither will have an affect on the issue you were having on the lnc-2000. Bc the mini nos controller was in active, not armed. Unless something really odd was happening, but don't know how since everything was fine with the mini connected and lnc not connected. If it were me, I'd eliminate everything and just try the lnc again. Prolly still not work though.
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Green wire is falling. Neither will have an affect on the issue you were having on the lnc-2000. Bc the mini nos controller was in active, not armed. Unless something really odd was happening, but don't know how since everything was fine with the mini connected and lnc not connected. If it were me, I'd eliminate everything and just try the lnc again. Prolly still not work though.
Pretty much i will be starting from scratch again. The tach wire and the TPS wire are coming from the nos mini progressive controller. The problems that i was having earlier was probable due from the 2 cracked spark plugs and from the blue/white wire on the coil harness not having a proper connection. Since i had took out the pin from the harness and souldered into that wire. I guess when i put it back in, maybe i didnt push it in all the way or didnt get a good contact when i put it back in. I thought it was the lnc2000 that was giving all the problems but it was that wire and the plugs that was the cause of it. The car is running fine now, just waiting on the lnc2000 to come back so that i can finish my install. Looks like i will be tapping into the GREEN Wire instead of the purple wire on the TPS. No what about the tach signal. Was the blue/white wire the correct wire? Thanks guys for yalls input, i feel a bit more confident going back into the build knowing more information.

This the link i started since i was having issues with the check engine light flashing
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Old 11-02-2014, 11:10 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by Badbubba View Post
Green wire is falling. Neither will have an affect on the issue you were having on the lnc-2000. Bc the mini nos controller was in active, not armed. Unless something really odd was happening, but don't know how since everything was fine with the mini connected and lnc not connected. If it were me, I'd eliminate everything and just try the lnc again. Prolly still not work though.
Yeah i sent the lnc2000 back to get checked, but im guessing this was not the case. The problem was coming from the coil back were i had spliced into for the tach wire
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