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Old 07-07-2009, 05:26 PM   #1
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Exclamation Camaro Ground Effects Memo 7/7/09 - proper installation tips

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The Camaro Action Center and Technical Assistance have received calls related to the GM Accessory Camaro Ground Effects and problems with the front air dam coming loose. After review of each of the calls to the Action center it was determined that the installation instructions were not completely followed.

It is important to make sure that all of the front attachment rivets are installed. There are 16 rivets used for the SS and 4 are installed with the fascia off the vehicle. There are 17 rivets used for the base model.

Do not use petroleum based cleaning products. If a strong cleaner is required use a 3M general purpose cleaners (P/N 08984). Tape will not adhere to a surface with residue left from petroleum based cleaning products.

Be sure to apply 15lbs of pressure to tape for proper wet out. After the kit has been installed the car should not be driven for 24 hours. The tape that is used during the installation of the front air dam must sit for 24 hours for complete adhesion.

Remember there are two different Ground Effect Kits available.

Part number 92207441 is only used on the base model Camaro
Part number 92208008 is only used on the SS model Camaro


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Old 07-07-2009, 05:40 PM   #4
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I hope my dealer got the memo. BTW Scotty, did they say how long orders would have to wait. I remember hearing they would be shipped in early July. I have waited 2 weeks now and am hoping to see them come in soon.
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Had my car two weeks and mine were B/O with no delivery date estimate. Any news would be appreciated.
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ok im going to call bull shit on that one. my dealer did that very thing,and the car was not driven for a ful day( i know it wasnt driven b/c i took the keys home with me and the guys at the dealership worked on it where i parked it)picked the car up lthe next night well after the 24 hr period. drove it the next morning to drop of some movies at blockbuster which is not even 10 miles from my house and when i came back out the front middle was hanging.
it is a bad idea to use tape period on ground effects of a car, any car period. drill 3 screws evenly spaced under the ground effect, in the middle section and the problem will be solved.just use a little commense as to how long the screw should be and how tuck them far enough back as to not be seen.
but thanks for the memeo.
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:07 PM   #7
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They don't only use tape - they use 8 rivets to hold the front ground effect on.

Here's the original GFX install screen shot:
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mine were installed by the dealer some time before i went to get the car and i drove 643 miles to my door and had no issues with the ground fx
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They don't only use tape - they use 8 rivets to hold the front ground effect on.
I agree, if the instructions are followed to a "T" it should work. The flares on my truck are held by tape and fasteners and I haven't had an issue with them. It all falls back on who installed them and was it done properly.
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ok im going to call bull shit on that one. my dealer did that very thing,and the car was not driven for a ful day( i know it wasnt driven b/c i took the keys home with me and the guys at the dealership worked on it where i parked it)picked the car up lthe next night well after the 24 hr period. drove it the next morning to drop of some movies at blockbuster which is not even 10 miles from my house and when i came back out the front middle was hanging.
it is a bad idea to use tape period on ground effects of a car, any car period. drill 3 screws evenly spaced under the ground effect, in the middle section and the problem will be solved.just use a little commense as to how long the screw should be and how tuck them far enough back as to not be seen.
but thanks for the memeo.
How do you know for sure that your dealer installed the front piece correctly? Did you count all the rivets, removed the front fascia and confirmed the correct amount of rivets were installed with it off?

Did you leave your car in the bay area over a lift? The instruction says the front fascia needs to be removed for a few of those rivets to be installed. It seems your dealer didn't follow the instructions to the letter and they just installed the front piece with the double sided tape and probably some but not all the rivets were installed. They probably didn't bother taking the front fascia off to install the required amount of rivets. If you didn't leave your car over a lift and they couldn't move your car to a lift, they probably didn't want to be bothered using a regular jack to lift the front and work on their back to install the front piece correctly. You don't see too many dealer mechanics crawling around on their backs under a car these days, do you?
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How do you know for sure that your dealer installed the front piece correctly? Did you count all the rivets, removed the front fascia and confirmed the correct amount of rivets were installed with it off?

Did you leave your car in the bay area over a lift? The instruction says the front fascia needs to be removed for a few of those rivets to be installed. It seems your dealer didn't follow the instructions to the letter and they just installed the front piece with the double sided tape and probably some but not all the rivets were installed. They probably didn't bother taking the front fascia off to install the required amount of rivets. If you didn't leave your car over a lift and they couldn't move your car to a lift, they probably didn't want to be bothered using a regular jack to lift the front and work on their back to install the front piece correctly. You don't see too many dealer mechanics crawling around on their backs under a car these days, do you?
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ok im going to call bull shit on that one. my dealer did that very thing,and the car was not driven for a ful day( i know it wasnt driven b/c i took the keys home with me and the guys at the dealership worked on it where i parked it)picked the car up lthe next night well after the 24 hr period. drove it the next morning to drop of some movies at blockbuster which is not even 10 miles from my house and when i came back out the front middle was hanging.
it is a bad idea to use tape period on ground effects of a car, any car period. drill 3 screws evenly spaced under the ground effect, in the middle section and the problem will be solved.just use a little commense as to how long the screw should be and how tuck them far enough back as to not be seen.
but thanks for the memeo.


how do you know the tape wasnt applied until 4 hours before you picked it up? Your car probably sat there all day untill someone was free to work on it.
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Just out of curiosity, what part of this is new news? That bulletin has been out for months...
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Just out of curiosity, what part of this is new news? That bulletin has been out for months...
Doesn't mean that everyone has seen it (I haven't) or that it's not useful despite it's age, but thank you for the screencapture of the install diagram.
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coat the paint at the edge the tape rides on with a 3m primer 94 stick.
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ok to explain in detail! the car was parked in a bay over a lift. i watched the guy pull the fx out of the boxand begin to work on it. i stayed there and watched him put the fx on the car with all the rivets.he was the one that informed it need to stay over night for at least 24 hrs so that the "tape" could stick properly.the news of this memo was all ready out or more my dealer was well aware of this issue.
the point of this post was the tape dont work. sooner or later depending how long you keep your car, the tape will give.again a bad idea to use tape on ground fx especially in the front area, but you go ahead and trust that tape idea and when $2000.00 fx is laying in the road dont sit there and say it wasnt followed to a "T"
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Doesn't mean that everyone has seen it (I haven't) or that it's not useful despite it's age, but thank you for the screencapture of the install diagram.
Sorry - wasn't meant to be sarcasm I didn't know if there was something different in the bulletin that hasn't been released yet. But I digress, the real credit goes to BalogUK for sending me the PDF install file.
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...now to make sure my dealer, 2400 miles away from my desk, gets the same information, cause heads are going to roll if half way through kansas on my way back to Georgia my front lip falls off.
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Will GM sell individual pieces,more specifically the front spoiler, or do you have to buy the entire ground fx package?
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At this point in time, the GFX are sold only as a complete package. I am sure in the future you will be able to buy them by the piece.
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Hylton left off the front of his gfx kit. You could ask him if he still has it & is willing to sell it.
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The Camaro Action Center and Technical Assistance have received calls related to the GM Accessory Camaro Ground Effects and problems with the front air dam coming loose. After review of each of the calls to the Action center it was determined that the installation instructions were not completely followed.

It is important to make sure that all of the front attachment rivets are installed. There are 16 rivets used for the SS and 4 are installed with the fascia off the vehicle. There are 17 rivets used for the base model.

Do not use petroleum based cleaning products. If a strong cleaner is required use a 3M general purpose cleaners (P/N 08984). Tape will not adhere to a surface with residue left from petroleum based cleaning products.

Be sure to apply 15lbs of pressure to tape for proper wet out. After the kit has been installed the car should not be driven for 24 hours. The tape that is used during the installation of the front air dam must sit for 24 hours for complete adhesion.

Remember there are two different Ground Effect Kits available.

Part number 92207441 is only used on the base model Camaro
Part number 92208008 is only used on the SS model Camaro


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um....

mine was done exactly like the instructions called for... I know because I was there.... and watched them install the front lip.... I did this because of the problem I read about on this site... I even put sticky notes on the installation instructions about cleaning with the IPA wipes and putting pressure on the tape.

Then they made me wait 1 day before I could pick the car up (24 hr cure).

............ my custom painted front GFX lip came loose 2 days later....... and it comes more and more loose every day.

the only thing holding it on now is the screws on the underside. If I were to post a picture you guys would go crazy. (i will do this ASAP)

... on top of that....the dealership wont fix it... they say that they are waiting for GM to "redesign" it.

I dont want to drill screws in it because the new "redesigned" lip might not cover the holes that I would drill to attach the old "messed-up" one.... not to mention I will have to have the new lip repainted (at my own expense).




between the front lip comig loose, the PDIM module being non-funtional (no USB, AUX, or Bluetooth), and the A-pillar hanging 1" off the headliner.... my friends and coworkers think that this car is real nice from more than 10' away.... but a peice of junk once you start to look it over carefully. I keep telling them the GM is working on getting it fixed.... but it has been two weeks now and the same guys ride with me to lunch and the same friends see the car on the weekends. I am sure it makes them think twice before ordering one.

GM.... please fix these issues.... dont just fix them..... tell the service advisors (specifically Jeffery at Tuscaloosa Chevy) that these are known problems and tell him how to fix them.

These dealerships are clueless.
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um....

mine was done exactly like the instructions called for... I know because I was there.... and watched them install the front lip.... because of the problem I read about on this site...

Then they made me wait 1 day before I could pick the car up (24 hr cure)

............ my front lip came loose 2 days later....... and it comes more and more loose every day.

the only thing holding it on now is the screws on the underside. If I were to post a pisture you guys would go crazy.

... on top of that....the dealership wont fix it... they say that they are waiting for GM to redesign it.

I dont want to drill screws in it because the new redesigned lip might not cover the holes I drilled to attach the messed up one.

That is interesting.

I wonder what the other dealers who successfully installed the GFX are doing different..???
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That is interesting.

I wonder what the other dealers who successfully installed the GFX are doing different..???
my guess is that they are putting extra screws though the tape.


or.... GM caught the problem after a few hundred of the parts already shipped..... and changed the kind of tape used on the lip
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