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Old 08-14-2013, 03:55 PM   #51
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That's impressive. How high did the IAT get?
140 degrees F at the finish line
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Ted make sure you set that window switch to shut the nitrous off before the rev limit.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:14 PM   #54
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140 degrees F at the finish line

I think that's pretty good thing the engine was basically a flame thrower. And to think that there was still some ice in the chest when I was done!!
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:25 PM   #55
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:31 PM   #56
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From your first post
"They got the motor pulled and torn apart this am. It does look like then when the car hit the limiter hard, the tb closed and forced the nitrous to pack up in the intake tube. When the tb opened back up all the nitrous ran in and was dumped in the first two cylinders it found."

Could this happen with a meth injection too?
or not because the meth is not mixed directly with fuel?
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:42 PM   #57
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From your first post
"They got the motor pulled and torn apart this am. It does look like then when the car hit the limiter hard, the tb closed and forced the nitrous to pack up in the intake tube. When the tb opened back up all the nitrous ran in and was dumped in the first two cylinders it found."

Could this happen with a meth injection too?
or not because the meth is not mixed directly with fuel?
Good question. I don't have the answer though. I would think it would pack up but maybe not blow up. My nitrous is dry, no fuel mixed in. The tune provides the extra fuel.
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:42 PM   #58
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Don't take this the wrong way but everyone seems to be blaming the nitrous for the problem, but how it was used was the problem. Just don't want anyone thinking that nitrous is un safe or will cause the same problems. As a power adder dollar for dollar it can't be beat.
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Don't take this the wrong way but everyone seems to be blaming the nitrous for the problem, but how it was used was the problem. Just don't want anyone thinking that nitrous is un safe or will cause the same problems. As a power adder dollar for dollar it can't be beat.


Nitrous did the damage but wasn't what started it. The excessive wheel spin did. That put everything in motion. Then the TB closed. Then the nitrous packed up, then the TB re-opened, then a shitload of nitrous entered the first low pressure area it found and melted the piston.

I have no problem with nitrous. I'll be spraying a buck twentyfive next time out. This time I'll have a whole new suspension under the car as well in hopes to eliminate the awful spinning.

Shit happens. All you can do is fix it and keep going.
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Nitrous did the damage but wasn't what started it. The excessive wheel spin did. That put everything in motion. Then the TB closed. Then the nitrous packed up, then the TB re-opened, then a shitload of nitrous entered the first low pressure area it found and melted the piston.

I have no problem with nitrous. I'll be spraying a buck twentyfive next time out. This time I'll have a whole new suspension under the car as well in hopes to eliminate the awful spinning.

Shit happens. All you can do is fix it and keep going.
125. To start lol I bet you end up with just a little more
Lets get that thing back together before October
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125. To start lol I bet you end up with just a little more
Lets get that thing back together before October

I'm hoping to be on the track on Sept 6!!!!!! Whats a JRE rental without my car!
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"They got the motor pulled and torn apart this am. It does look like then when the car hit the limiter hard, the tb closed and forced the nitrous to pack up in the intake tube. When the tb opened back up all the nitrous ran in and was dumped in the first two cylinders it found."

Could this happen with a meth injection too?
or not because the meth is not mixed directly with fuel?
Yes this can happen with meth but not for the same reason as Jamies engine could have been a lot worse as nitrous could have blown the block apart but meth can cause issues if its not tuned properly or their is a malfunction with the controller as it will allow temps to spike. I had meth with my tvs2300 on my first setup and the controller went bad and so did the motor. Meth is different as it should be tuned for the cooling factor which will add power but most people think you can add meth and get aggressive with the tune but if anything goes wrong it can be catastrophic. Nitrous is the cheapest hp out there and is very safe if it used properly but can do serious damage if you don't know how to use it.
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Whats a JRE rental without my car!
Probably a lot more fun
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Probably a lot more fun

No no no. There needs to be at least one fast car!
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No no no. There needs to be at least one fast car!
Whatever happen to big ole lemon Ted built? aka "Ray"
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No no no. There needs to be at least one fast car!

So then your car won't be there.
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He's around. Just at cruise nights, not racing. Maybe in sept.
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We've been there before man, it's like a line up 1st. 2nd., 3rd., .... it's just a matter of time that's all.
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What are you running now suspension wise and what are you moving to? That piston had a really bad day!

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Nitrous did the damage but wasn't what started it. The excessive wheel spin did. That put everything in motion. Then the TB closed. Then the nitrous packed up, then the TB re-opened, then a shitload of nitrous entered the first low pressure area it found and melted the piston.

I have no problem with nitrous. I'll be spraying a buck twentyfive next time out. This time I'll have a whole new suspension under the car as well in hopes to eliminate the awful spinning.

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We've been there before man, it's like a line up 1st. 2nd., 3rd., .... it's just a matter of time that's all.
True. If it was the nitrous it could've been something else.
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What are you running now suspension wise and what are you moving to? That piston had a really bad day!
I was running the pfadt drag specific stuff. We popped that off to try the pedders super car coil overs. Farks is helping me with their notes and what not in setting up my car.
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What spark plugs are you running?
Probably not the correct ones for nitrous but like SS said he doesn't want a spark plug debate.

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vp c-16 = 117 motor octane
shell urt advanced= 105 motor octane

not even close in octane!
Search VP C16 vs Shell URT Advanced and see what others say. I personally have not compared the two back to back so I couldn't tell you. I use C16 in the dedicated nitrous cell and will be switching to URT-A but that is only a small portion of th hp the car makes.

What I do know is it is the highest octane unleaded currently available in all 50.
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Maybe Uncle Ted can test them for us since he has a dyno and access to high hp cars.
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Probably not the correct ones for nitrous but like SS said he doesn't want a spark plug debate.

Search VP C16 vs Shell URT Advanced and see what others say. I personally have not compared the two back to back so I couldn't tell you. I use C16 in the dedicated nitrous cell and will be switching to URT-A but that is only a small portion of th hp the car makes.

What I do know is it is the highest octane unleaded currently available in all 50.
I have run both and compared them and they are nearly identical. I am running c16 cause the shell urt is harder to get in my area. It's great if u want to stay unleaded
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