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Old 08-14-2013, 05:11 PM   #1
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z/28 question

ok so ive been watching videos and looking at pictures of the Z and it looks to me like there are plastic inserts where the fog lights should be? please correct me if im wrong but wtf?! I realize that its a "track" based car and they are trying to shave weight and suck, ok.....I will most likely not ever be in the market for one but it seems like a 60k+ car should at least some with functional fog lights. please someone tell me im wrong!
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Weight savings.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:14 PM   #3
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how much could a damn light bulb and some wires weigh lol
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:18 PM   #5
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how much could a damn light bulb and some wires weigh lol
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We looked at every subsystem for opportunities to save weight, said Oppenheiser. Our goal was to get rid of everything that didnt make the car faster, and keep only what was required by law. For example, we wanted to eliminate the audio system completely, but we had to keep a single speaker for the seat-belt chime to meet safety requirements.

Other examples of weight savings include:

Eliminated the tire-inflator kit, except for Rhode Island and New Hampshire, where it is required by law
Removed interior sound deadener, and carpeting from the trunk
Replaced the standard LN4 battery with a smaller, lightweight, LN3 battery
Specified thinner, 3.2-mm glass for the rear window, compared to 3.5-mm glass on the standard Camaro
HID headlamps and foglights are not available
Air conditioning is only available as a stand-alone option
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:19 PM   #6
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Probably weighs as much as a lot of change sitting in your cup holder
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:24 PM   #7
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stupid question but, why not just delete it all together instead of putting plastic inserts?
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Because two random holes in the front fascia would look stupid.

And probably affect aero.
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ok so ive been watching videos and looking at pictures of the Z and it looks to me like there are plastic inserts where the fog lights should be? please correct me if im wrong but wtf?! I realize that its a "track" based car and they are trying to shave weight and suck, ok.....I will most likely not ever be in the market for one but it seems like a 60k+ car should at least some with functional fog lights. please someone tell me im wrong!
That seems very likely. It's suppose to be a track car. It doesn't have air conditioning. What good are fog lights?
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no I didn't mean just take them out haha, I meant just not have them, period.
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Because then you have to re-engineer an entirely new front fascia specifically for the Z/28. Which takes time and costs money.
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:03 PM   #12
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I'm all about the weivht savings on that car, but fake fog lights looks like crap. Have a flat piece of plastic or something there, that's what I think.
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:12 PM   #13
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They could have maybe used them as cooling ducts for the brakes.
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They eliminated a bunch of stuff and instead of reducing the price, they increased it!
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They eliminated a bunch of stuff and instead of reducing the price, they increased it!
For one, changing the design for a low volume car increases the price and the parts used on the Z/28 aren't cheap.
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Front page on "getting to know your car" in the Z28 manual states, "it is recommended that a complete bowel movement be completed before usage of vehicle; performance numbers will drastically increase..."
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ok so ive been watching videos and looking at pictures of the Z and it looks to me like there are plastic inserts where the fog lights should be? please correct me if im wrong but wtf?! I realize that its a "track" based car and they are trying to shave weight and suck, ok.....I will most likely not ever be in the market for one but it seems like a 60k+ car should at least some with functional fog lights. please someone tell me im wrong!
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ok so ive been watching videos and looking at pictures of the Z and it looks to me like there are plastic inserts where the fog lights should be? please correct me if im wrong but wtf?! I realize that its a "track" based car and they are trying to shave weight and suck, ok.....I will most likely not ever be in the market for one but it seems like a 60k+ car should at least some with functional fog lights. please someone tell me im wrong!
A. Yes in the prototype model there is a blacked out panel. B. There is no need for fog lights on this car.
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I want to know what happens if you stick a CD into the slot. Does it just fall behind the dash?
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I want to know what happens if you stick a CD into the slot. Does it just fall behind the dash?
What's a CD?
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...haha, as in what's an 8 track.....<they really sucked>. CD players are gone...say it aint so...<damn glad I got the last of them....>
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