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Old 07-08-2009, 01:31 PM   #1
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Mobil 1 Information

I hope I dont get myself in a bind for writing this. I work for mobil. I sit in on many meeting and recently had a very interesting conversation as lubes production was being discussed. A department head of the area which produces lubes said the actually life of oil such as mobil 1 is MUCH greater than the public is aware of. I said I chage mine between 3K and 4K miles and then asked how often he changed his. He said the oil will provide 50,000 miles before significant breakdown which would necessitate change. He said on his personal vehicle, he changes it at 25,000 just to be safe. WTF???!!! . I said are you serious??! He confirmed, once break-in has been achieved, no over heating has taken place, that the lab results were clear. He said he does a filter change every 5K (with a top off to make up what got lost in the filter) and oil at 25K. This is from the man that produces the product and has no sense of humor, so I have no reason to doubt what was said! Just passing it along as my $.02
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:34 PM   #2
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They wouldn't make any money if they advertised it like this..
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:35 PM   #3
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Thank you for the information.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:39 PM   #4
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WOW!!! That is just freaking crazy. I usually end up going 8K-10k before changing and thought I was pushing it. LOL shows what I know.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:39 PM   #5
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cool, thanks for the info. Very true, if it was advertised as you say, then they wouldn't sell as much probably. Good to at least hear it from the horse's mouth...now I don't feel so bad leaving my Mobil 1 in for about 6K miles at a time.
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I spoke with the Mobil 1 reps several times and was told that they get there oil changed for free and only change it every 15,000 and the filter gets changed at 7,500 miles. He even said that when the oil was drained at 15,000 there was no break down. The oil was the same at 15,000 as it was when it went in is what he said. He then told me to go by the cars manufacturer. I change mine every 5,000 and don't need a sticker to know when that is.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:45 PM   #7
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Wow, I kick myself now for all those times I worried about going a few miles over. Thanks man!
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:20 PM   #8
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synthetics are bad ass arent they? one thing to keep in mind however, is that its not always how many miles are driven, but HOW the miles are driven. I run about 5k for oil changes in my pickup and the durango, but my 94Z still gets changed every 3k. but it also gets the piss driven out of it on a regular basis and has over 185k on the motor.

newer motors are built with tighter and tighter tolerances and run much more efficiently than yesteryear. add to that, the added volume of oil in newer cars (the SS runs like 8qts) helps extend oil life.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:21 PM   #9
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hmm..not that I don't trust the OP, I just wonder how true that is...
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:04 PM   #10
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I did I little search and found this study, it was way back in 2003 though.

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Mile 18,000 -- John Richardson, September 29, 2003.
Oil/Vehicle miles: 18,021 / 27,960
Oil added after sample: drained oil!

Well, it's done. At long last, we drained the oil. Considering that we've gone two and a half times longer than we thought we'd go, we're pretty impressed by Mobil 1's longevity. Our Dexsil TBN test resulted in a 6.0, comparing favorably to Blackstone's 6.5. But speaking of high TBNs, what happened to this oil? If it had posted these numbers at the last interval, we wouldn't have dumped it. This oil could have kept going based on the numbers we have now, but they sure weren't looking this good a thousand miles ago. Viscosity was dropping, TBN rising, and what's going on with the insolubles? Meanwhile, despite all these paper improvements, the engine still had higher oil pressure and wasn't running as smoothly as normal, so clearly not all was perfect with the oil.

Thanks to the help of reader Doug Hillary, we had the final sample analyzed by Mobil 1's laboratory. Their results matched Blackstone's analysis pretty well; we certainly didn't receive any surprises.

Honestly, this first phase of the study has probably raised as many questions as it has answered.

Presently, the Z28 is enjoying a relaxing flush fill of Amsoil "ASL" 5W30 synthetic oil, the same oil we will be using (with a refill of course) for the next phase of the study. We're going to begin the Amsoil test when the odometer turns 31,000 miles, which we currently anticipate to be early November.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:28 PM   #11
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Whatever... it's not the oil it's the crud that burns and get's into it.

A car that has had it's oil changed will always outlast old oil reguardless if it didn't break down or not.

And your warranty has an oil change interval period so you have to be able to demonstrate that the fluid was changed (paperwork) by a qualified tech (unless your dealer is cool with it).
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:06 PM   #12
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I'm going to do my first oil change per the on board computer's recommendation and send a sample of it to a private lab for an independent analysis. I'll then adjust from there.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:15 PM   #13
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HMMMM... I didn't think anyone worked for Mobil anymore. Used to be a great company until Exxon bought them...

Good info... I've always been a fan of Mobil 1... good enough for NASCAR is good enough for me.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:20 PM   #14
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HMMMM... I didn't think anyone worked for Mobil anymore. Used to be a great company until Exxon bought them...
Yep, my mom worked for Mobil straight out of college for 21 years. As soon as Exxon bought them, she left within a year, said they treat their employees like crap. It is one of the most profitable oil companies though.
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:46 AM   #15
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Does the manual say the oil has to be changed by a qualified tech or void warrany??? Hogwash, I wouldn't let them dipsticks touch my car!
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Whatever... it's not the oil it's the crud that burns and get's into it.
A car that has had it's oil changed will always outlast old oil reguardless if it didn't break down or not. And your warranty has an oil change interval period so you have to be able to demonstrate that the fluid was changed (paperwork) by a qualified tech (unless your dealer is cool with it).

Isn't one of the benefits of synthetic oil is that it handles the contaminants better than conventional oil?
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:00 PM   #17
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Yes. The syn oil acts a lot different than conv oils. Conv oil would simply carry trash in it and as such grit, shavings etc would/could find the way to critical moving parts scarring the metal or worse. Syn oil suspends trash in it....think if it as encapsulating debris until it can be caught by the filter. MUCH cleaner.
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