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Old 07-13-2009, 01:20 AM   #26
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yes, but how hard is it to register on this site? who knows who all the thousands of members that we have registered on here are in real life. one of our mods is a cop. and nearly half of our members dont have a single post. they could be just bs screen names for people scouring the forums waiting for someone to post some incriminating info.
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weather there's a street racing section or not , it's still going to happen out there every day.
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You can have a Camaro vs bs forum, but not street racing.

So we can play pretend, but real world outcomes will not be tolerated?

The biggest lsx info site ls1tech.com has a street racing section. Are they kiddies over there?

Please with the holier than thou b.s.

Half of the Camaros heritage is street racing. Maybe the grown ups on other sites are mature enough to discuss it in a "adult" manner while the kiddies here are scared to talk about it?
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You can have a Camaro vs bs forum, but not street racing.

So we can play pretend, but real world outcomes will not be tolerated?

The biggest lsx info site ls1tech.com has a street racing section. Are they kiddies over there?

Please with the holier than thou b.s.

Half of the Camaros heritage is street racing. Maybe the grown ups on other sites are mature enough to discuss it in a "adult" manner while the kiddies here are scared to talk about it?
Sure there was street racing back in the 60's when the camaro debuted. There was also segregation and lead paint, so just cause it happened in the past don't make it right.

This site seems to have a good working relationship with GM, that gets us some perks and info we wouldnt otherwise get. I seriously doubt GM would maintain a professional relationship with a site that openly endorsed street racing.

And now that you mention it, since the 'exodus', the average age and intelligence level of your ls1tech poster has gone down significantly, so I would call them 'kiddies'. A man assumes some personal responsibility and takes it to the track.
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Sure there was street racing back in the 60's when the camaro debuted. There was also segregation and lead paint, so just cause it happened in the past don't make it right.

This site seems to have a good working relationship with GM, that gets us some perks and info we wouldnt otherwise get. I seriously doubt GM would maintain a professional relationship with a site that openly endorsed street racing.

And now that you mention it, since the 'exodus', the average age and intelligence level of your ls1tech poster has gone down significantly, so I would call them 'kiddies'. A man assumes some personal responsibility and takes it to the track.
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Sure there was street racing back in the 60's when the camaro debuted. There was also segregation and lead paint, so just cause it happened in the past don't make it right.
seriously? You just compared street racing to segregation? LOL good one. Because street racing takes black people out back and hangs them from trees. Yes it sucks when people get hurt or killed in street racing, but some times in some places you can do responsible street racing. I know its hard to imagine, but people dont die in every street race. Oh and sometimes people actually die at the drag strip. Can you believe it?

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This site seems to have a good working relationship with GM, that gets us some perks and info we wouldnt otherwise get. I seriously doubt GM would maintain a professional relationship with a site that openly endorsed street racing.
If this site does have an actual professional relationship with GM then I understand why they dont have a street racing section. However just because you have a section doesnt mean you endorse it. Allowing people to talk about it isnt endorsing it. But if GM doesnt want it at all that makes sense.

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And now that you mention it, since the 'exodus', the average age and intelligence level of your ls1tech poster has gone down significantly, so I would call them 'kiddies'. A man assumes some personal responsibility and takes it to the track.
Really? lol you must of migrated from ls1.com. Dont be butt hurt about it. Just be happy that tech exists to provide resources and knowledge you would never get here or ls1.com. This site has huge potential, but there are some serious tool bags that post the most nonsense (not saying its you) and try to pass it off as gospel ..i.e...30rwhp from a CAI or using a line lock to launch is just as good as a trans brake.

You never once ever in your adult life got on the gas next to another car? Street racing doesnt have to be a no B.S. drag race. It could be a roll race on the highway/back road race/ block off road/ old runway....ect ect.
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Most forums with a street racing section degenerate even more than the -vs- section which is already the section with the biggest ban-stick short of political talk on off-topic.

Putting aside any moralism, a kills section is just a place to tell everyone how big your epeen is. You're probably lying about the size of it anyway. At least at a race track there's someone there to give you your officially verified measurement.
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seriously? You just compared street racing to segregation? LOL good one. Because street racing takes black people out back and hangs them from trees. Yes it sucks when people get hurt or killed in street racing, but some times in some places you can do responsible street racing. I know its hard to imagine, but people dont die in every street race. Oh and sometimes people actually die at the drag strip. Can you believe it?



If this site does have an actual professional relationship with GM then I understand why they dont have a street racing section. However just because you have a section doesnt mean you endorse it. Allowing people to talk about it isnt endorsing it. But if GM doesnt want it at all that makes sense.



Really? lol you must of migrated from ls1.com. Dont be butt hurt about it. Just be happy that tech exists to provide resources and knowledge you would never get here or ls1.com. This site has huge potential, but there are some serious tool bags that post the most nonsense (not saying its you) and try to pass it off as gospel ..i.e...30rwhp from a CAI or using a line lock to launch is just as good as a trans brake.

You never once ever in your adult life got on the gas next to another car? Street racing doesnt have to be a no B.S. drag race. It could be a roll race on the highway/back road race/ block off road/ old runway....ect ect.
You know - you make some good points. I don't think any of us here have never gotten a little happy with the loud pedal with the car(s) next to use. For me, it comes down to it's just easier to not allow it than to have to moderate it. Yeah - everything has to be moderated, but there's just something about posting some of the stories I can imagine seeing on here that really irks me. Having a site of my own (that I hardly frequent, lol) I can say that we have a Street Kills Section, but I've never liked it. Too many times I'd read about people evading the cops, or just being REALLY irresponsible around other drivers and with others in their car. This site doesn't cater to GM, nor does it have sponsors that we cator to. I think it just makes it more of a friendly place. God knows that we have enough politics and religion that creeps in making things complicated enough, let alone another controversial topic like this.

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You know - you make some good points. I don't think any of us here have never gotten a little happy with the loud pedal with the car(s) next to use. For me, it comes down to it's just easier to not allow it than to have to moderate it. Yeah - everything has to be moderated, but there's just something about posting some of the stories I can imagine seeing on here that really irks me. Having a site of my own (that I hardly frequent, lol) I can say that we have a Street Kills Section, but I've never liked it. Too many times I'd read about people evading the cops, or just being REALLY irresponsible around other drivers and with others in their car. This site doesn't cater to GM, nor does it have sponsors that we cator to. I think it just makes it more of a friendly place. God knows that we have enough politics and religion that creeps in making things complicated enough, let alone another controversial topic like this.

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I hear you bro. There are some flat out stupid stories on the other sites. You just have to take the bad with the good with those threads.
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I hear you bro. There are some flat out stupid stories on the other sites. You just have to take the bad with the good with those threads.
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Hey Tina... will you spank my ass???

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Because it kills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


too.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-810358.html

Wow in 2004 a there were a whopping 149,518 fatal car accidents.

A whopping 315 were from street racing.


Better put guns on the same level as street racing, because they kill thousands every year.
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Consider the following stats, compiled from a variety of national and state transportation agencies, and it's easy to see the answer is to take it to the track.


In 2001, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported that police listed street racing as a factor in 135 fatal crashes.

The total was up from 72 street-racing-related fatalities reported in 2000. According to the California Office of Traffic Safety, more than 800 citations for illegal street racing were issued in 2001. In San Diego, where the street racing problem has been termed "epidemic," 16 deaths and 31 injuries were directly related to illegal street racing in 2001. The city's attorney's office prosecuted 147 illegal street racing cases in 1999, 161 in 2000, and 290 in 2001.

In Florida in 2001, 7,216 citations were issued for racing on the highway. In 1999, the Florida Department of Highway and Safety for Motor Vehicles reported 28 accidents related to illegal street racing, with 2 fatalities and 27 injuries. In 2000, the agency reported 39 racing accidents, with 1 fatality and 55 injuries. In 2002, there were 48 racing accidents, 1 fatality, and 60 injuries. According to the NHTSA, motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death for people between the ages of 16 and 20. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety says 5,749 teens died in the United States from motor vehicle crash injuries in 1999.

Nationwide statistics show that 49 people are injured for every 1,000 who participate in illegal street racing. As a result, city and state ordinances have been issued regarding illegal street racing. Though laws vary, here are some penalties faced by street racers: You can be arrested and have your car impounded for 30 days.

If convicted of street racing or aiding and abetting a street race, you can be imprisoned for up to three months and fined up to $1,000.

Spectators are subject to penalties as well. Your driver's license can be revoked. Your car insurance may be cancelled or the rates dramatically increased. Cars in and around illegal street races are often issued equipment violations.


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For me, street racing is an issue of class. If someone in a car that is less desirable is trying to justify their car by beating mine, it will only encourage them to take on bigger fish in the future. The people that are most likely to do this are driving economy cars or cars that have lost their value and are trying to justify that they can keep up with a superior, newer car. For instance, if that Civic DX is trying to play games with your Camaro SS on the highway, it is alright to give a wave or a rev, but all you will do by racing that Civic is giving the driver the impression that it is a worthy adversary when it simply is not worthy of racing.

Additionally, races on the highway have too many variables that are significantly reduced at the track. For instance, highway lanes are less likely to be evenly worn, more likely to have potholes, and much more likely to have civilians in the path of the race. Why would you want to run a less than superior race when you can run your best under ideal conditions on a well-treated track? Even if you remove the possibility of hitting someone from the equation, it just doesn't make sense to race on a road that could produce worse results than you might expect from you car.

It only makes sense to race at the track. Your numbers will almost certainly be better, you can prove that you won with a slip, witnesses will verify how fast your car is, and the odds of anyone dying by your vehicle are minimal.
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WOW, I can't believe a Lawer is promoting street racing. In Florida, if you are caught street racing, you have your car taken away from you, and the state owns it. You have all these drag strips throughout the states, if you want to race, put it on the drag strip. But be real, why run the risk of street racing and lose a brand new Camaro that cost you a ARM and a LEG???



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WOW, I can't believe a Lawer is promoting street racing. In Florida, if you are caught street racing, you have your car taken away from you, and the state owns it. You have all these drag strips throughout the states, if you want to race, put it on the drag strip. But be real, why run the risk of street racing and lose a brand new Camaro that cost you a ARM and a LEG???
Where did he promote street racing? I dont promote it or condone it, but its out there and I ocassionally do it.

I dont see the big deal about street racing when its fatalties are so minescule (?) when compared to dui crashes/fatalaties. Does florida take your car after a dui?

Its all bullshit since Fast and the furious came out. More pedestrians probably die getting hit by old ladies every year than people die from street racing. (that doesnt justify it btw) But why attack something so fiercely that doesnt really have that much of an impact.

Its like giving acne medication to someone who is terminally ill. Its not really solving anything.

How about they attack the bigger fish (DUI) with that harshness?

Its all bullshit.

I got a speeding ticket in stafford VA. 90 in a 65 on I95. In Illinois or Ohio its like a $90 ticket. In butt**** VA it was an $1,800 fine and six month suspension. Its just a bullshit money making law. A tractor trailor can go 75-78mph.....safe he wont get pulled over. But a car designed for higher speeds goes 80mph and holy shit its a wreckless driving!! **** him in the ass.

Glad Im not there anymore.
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He said why not street racing stories.
I had a brother that was killed by hit and run DUI driver.
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I don't drink, and when I lived in Florida, that was the law. You street race, you get caught, your vehicle gets taken away. I really don't think people should street race.
Now when I was going down to Pontiac's in the Park @ Virginia Motorsports Park, I had a Riceburner come up to my left side and wanted, I didn't race, because I was head to PINP in Petersburg, VA on I-85 south, just so happens, there was a cop sitting north.
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Because it kills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better put guns on the same level as street racing, because they kill thousands every year.
It's PEOPLE that kill, not tools !

Bats, knives, stones, power tools, cars, buses, trains, planes. All are tools. All can be used to kill. Hell, a PILLOW can be used to kill.

Get off it!

THANK YOU for banning that asshat!
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