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Old 05-26-2014, 11:46 PM   #1
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Optional New GM System Seat belt required

http://ca.autoblog.com/2014/05/24/op...official-poll/

What do you guys think of this? I'm honesty all for it.

Think it would be a better idea on sports cars.
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Old 05-26-2014, 11:51 PM   #2
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A friend of mine cut the buckle off one of the back seats and plugged it into the receptacle in his truck to make the alarm stay off so I don't imagine this would slow him down.

Personally, I think they can keep their seat belt nannies out of my car, and I wear mine. I don't want to screw with a belt when I'm moving my car around the driveway or other mundane tasks. It could probably be circumvented anyway with some simple wiring modifications.
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Old 05-26-2014, 11:54 PM   #3
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A friend of mine cut the buckle off one of the back seats and plugged it into the receptacle in his truck to make the alarm stay off so I don't imagine this would slow him down.

Personally, I think they can keep their seat belt nannies out of my car, and I wear mine. I don't want to screw with a belt when I'm moving my car around the driveway or other mundane tasks. It could probably be circumvented anyway with some simple wiring modifications.
Yeah i guess i never thought about that... If you are moving the car for like 2 seconds.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:14 AM   #4
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Yes. I already tell my buddies I can't move out of park if the buckle isn't fastened. But that's me.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:24 AM   #5
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I feel pretty much the same way about this that I feel about helmet laws on motorcycles.

1). People have a right to be stupid if they're only endangering their own lives.
2). That right should be respected, but the individual in question should assume all legal liability for injuries resulting (or even possibly resulting) from their choice to be stupid.

In other words, people should be able to drive around without a seat belt if they want to, but if they get themselves thrown through the windshield and killed, whoever else was involved in the accident shouldn't be liable for it.

Of course, our society is allergic to common-sense solutions, and as long as you can be sued for other peoples' stupidity, there's probably a need for helmet laws and seat belt laws. I'd rather not have more electronic nannies in my car, though.
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Old 05-27-2014, 01:00 AM   #6
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wednesday im telling my brothers ex hot girlfriend my car wont start unless she does this.
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Old 05-27-2014, 05:18 AM   #7
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all you need is one of these to bypass it...

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Old 05-27-2014, 05:25 AM   #8
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Personally, I think they can keep their seat belt nannies out of my car, and I wear mine. I don't want to screw with a belt when I'm moving my car around the driveway or other mundane tasks. It could probably be circumvented anyway with some simple wiring modifications.
I absolutely agree. I can't imagine trying to hook up to one of my trailers and having to buckle up to move my truck 1 foot.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:26 AM   #9
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1 st it's an option and then it'll be mandatory. Big brother is watching.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:32 AM   #10
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I feel pretty much the same way about this that I feel about helmet laws on motorcycles.

1). People have a right to be stupid if they're only endangering their own lives.
2). That right should be respected, but the individual in question should assume all legal liability for injuries resulting (or even possibly resulting) from their choice to be stupid.

In other words, people should be able to drive around without a seat belt if they want to, but if they get themselves thrown through the windshield and killed, whoever else was involved in the accident shouldn't be liable for it.

Of course, our society is allergic to common-sense solutions, and as long as you can be sued for other peoples' stupidity, there's probably a need for helmet laws and seat belt laws. I'd rather not have more electronic nannies in my car, though.
+1

It is only a law because insurance Company's want it to be. Let them sell seat belt and non seat belt insurance and they can charge me more for the added risk I pose to my self for not wearing a seat belt.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:24 AM   #11
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:35 AM   #12
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The government made it mandatory in 74 to have a seat belt starter interlock on the drivers side. The car could not be started unless the belt was buckled. The law was quickly overturned when it was determined it infringed on people's personal rights.
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:52 AM   #13
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Oh joy more nannies!

That would be a pain when moving the car in or out of the garage, etc.

Not to mention it's just more unnecessary electronics which will add to the cost of the car and eventually break. Then one day you can't drive your car because the seat belt sensor fails. I'll pass.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:15 AM   #14
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I think it's a good idea AS LONG AS it has the option to be disabled for instances like have been mentioned: moving the car in your driveway etc.

Maybe they could make it so the vehicle will not travel faster than 15mph without the seatbelts fastened
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:31 AM   #15
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The government made it mandatory in 74 to have a seat belt starter interlock on the drivers side. The car could not be started unless the belt was buckled. The law was quickly overturned when it was determined it infringed on people's personal rights.
Hmmm. Current administration doesn't seem to pay much attention to people's rights... or the legislative process if it gets in the way of what the president wants.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:38 AM   #16
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Hmmm. Current administration doesn't seem to pay much attention to people's rights... or the legislative process if it gets in the way of what the president wants.

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Old 05-27-2014, 10:40 AM   #17
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Didn't we go through this way back in the early 70's?

I seem to remember defeating it by simply buckling the seat belt (lap belt) and just sitting on it along with unplugging a sensor under the passenger seat?
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:03 AM   #18
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Hopefully someday the Government finds out that it's accidents that cause injuries and deaths, not lack of government mandates.

Sadly, that's not how our bureaucracy operates. How will they get more funding if people stop dying?
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:05 AM   #19
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wednesday im telling my brothers ex hot girlfriend my car wont start unless she does this.
You shouldn't be driving around with your brother's ex-girlfriend...
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:08 AM   #20
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Well, what's the point of it's optional?

Wouldn't the person who optioned this feature be the same who'd always buckle anyway?

Unless, I guess, you are buying it for your kids.

Also, isn't this just one more feature to go wrong?
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:18 AM   #21
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I think the point is being missed here. I personally think it's a great idea for FLEET vehicles as it's intended purpose. I'm sure it cuts liability down on the company that owns the vehicle and if it's a company policy to always be buckled, a little easier to mandate.

On a consumer vehicle this probably will cause some issues and stay an option, be great if insurance companies gave you a discounted rate for it but till then I see no personal gain from getting it. I always buckle unless I'm backing the car out of the garage to the driveway.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:21 AM   #22
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This would be wrong on so many levels. Like has been said just government wanting to control us more and take away freedoms in the name of safety.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:19 PM   #23
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I think it's great. The severity of injuries sustained in an accident without a seatbelt being worn is higher than when a seatbelt is worn. I don't find buckling up to be offensive/intrusive/annoying, or part of some covert political agenda.

What I do find offensive/intrusive/annoying is that insurance rates, healthcare costs, and also a portion of my tax dollars are going to support those who injured themselves as a result of negligence and are taking insurance settlements, getting free healthcare, and having their survivors take government assistance because they are no longer alive or are able to support their families. I fully support people who want to do stupid things, so long as I don't end up paying for it.
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You will think it's great until you are late for work and the interlock fails to allow you to drive your car.

Seat wiring is notorious for get damaged.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:26 PM   #25
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GM is doing this because some of the recalls occur only when someone isn't wearing their seatbelt (which in turn permanently disables airbags... I think GM just wanted to implement natural selection)
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