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Old 09-27-2013, 09:26 AM   #26
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Anybody know the offsets front and back?
I found a thread on the ZL1 forums that lists factory offsets taken from the stamps on the wheels (with pics):
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...factory+offset

Offset: Front: 23mm, Rear: 43mm (stamped on the back side of the wheels)


Hey all!

I did some searching on the site and found the factory offsets. I have deleted the original text and replaced it with a link to the forum which tells the offsets and where to find them.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:04 AM   #27
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There is are reasons your 1LE is equipped with the same size tire front and rear with wider rear than front rims.

The 5th Gen is nose heavy and the IRS hugs the road better than the virtual pivot front design. The combination creates massive amount of understeer, push when driven past 7/10ths. We addressed that way back in 2009 by fitting 305/30/19/XL Bridgestone RE-11s on Forgeline 10.5 by 19s all round. The square wheel and tire setup dramatically reduces understeer. For the 1LE the engineers on the Camaro TEAM selected 285/35/20. The rear tires are intended as drive and the fronts as steer. With the extra width in the rear removes some sidewall flex for better drive while the more narrow front allows for more sidewall flex to steer.

The wheel widths, the application are well done. Changing tire sizes without corresponding changes to the wheels will do nothing but degrade the handling of your 1LE. Just so you know, the setup is so good that GM dumbed it down to induce more understeer. The ZL1 uses a 25mm front and 28mm rear sways. That is a pretty neutral setup, or as neutral as an OEM will sell, with staggered wheels and tires. The same bars on a 1LE with the semi square wheels and tires was too neutral so they dumbed it down by adding a larger front 27mm sway bar.

The GYs are also dialed int for the heft of the 5th Gen. The sidewalls are stout. The should tread blocks harder than the super sticky center section. This combination provides durability when run hard on track along with great grip once they are hot.

There are a lot of things you can do to improve the already great handling of the 1LE, but changing from the OEM spec tire and size has to be at the very bottom of the list unless you are fitting Pilot Sport Cups or some other D.O.T. legals slick.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:21 AM   #28
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^ So keep the square setup and add bigger bar out back. Gotcha.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:23 AM   #29
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^ So keep the square setup and add bigger bar out back. Gotcha.
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:33 PM   #30
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How about 295/35 in the rear in addition to the bigger rear bar? Pilot Super Sports have this size and guys seem to rave about them.
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:39 PM   #31
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How about 295/35 in the rear in addition to the bigger rear bar? Pilot Super Sports have this size and guys seem to rave about them.
I am running Forgeline's in a ZL1 configuration, 20x10 up front with 285/35-20 and rear with 20x11 with 295/35-20(Ferrari spec tires, xl 105) in the Michelin Pilot Super Sports...I have had good luck with this set up....also running the ZL1 Pedders sways front/rear...handles well in my opinion. I know, not what you recommend Pete, but can't afford another set of Forgeline's....
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:54 PM   #32
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How about 295/35 in the rear in addition to the bigger rear bar? Pilot Super Sports have this size and guys seem to rave about them.
Absolutely you'll want torun our 32mm bar with or without the 295s. The Pilot Super Sports certainly have a number of fans. Just remember not all tires are created equal. So Cal Camaro has done his homework and found the Ferrari version of the Super Sport.

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I am running Forgeline's in a ZL1 configuration, 20x10 up front with 285/35-20 and rear with 20x11 with 295/35-20(Ferrari spec tires, xl 105) in the Michelin Pilot Super Sports...I have had good luck with this set up....also running the ZL1 Pedders sways front/rear...handles well in my opinion. I know, not what you recommend Pete, but can't afford another set of Forgeline's....
I hear that. Are you running the front bar on full soft?
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:26 PM   #33
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I forget where I have it set right now...I'll look tomorrow, getting some new front tires finally....
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:24 AM   #34
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MICHELIN® PILOT® SPORT A/S 3 thinking about these as my new street tires. Only getting 10-12 thousand miles out of the goodyears is simply not affordable for me as this car is my daily driver.

So I am thinking I will use these A/S 3s for now and save for a track set of goodyears for some hoped for track days next summer.
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:48 PM   #35
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MICHELIN® PILOT® SPORT A/S 3

Just ordered a set from Costco, if you have a membership Michelins are 70.00 off for a set of four.....through tomorrow. I will get them mounted at the dealer rather than Costco.

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MICHELIN® PILOT® SPORT A/S 3 thinking about these as my new street tires. Only getting 10-12 thousand miles out of the goodyears is simply not affordable for me as this car is my daily driver.

So I am thinking I will use these A/S 3s for now and save for a track set of goodyears for some hoped for track days next summer.
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:15 AM   #36
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Just ordered a set from Costco, if you have a membership Michelins are 70.00 off for a set of four.....through tomorrow. I will get them mounted at the dealer rather than Costco.
Were they the W or Y rated ones?

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Old 10-02-2013, 12:16 PM   #37
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It looks like Costco has the W's.
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Old 10-02-2013, 06:46 PM   #38
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Were they the W or Y rated ones?

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They are indeed the W, but since I don't have any plans to exceed 168 mph I think they will be fine
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Old 10-02-2013, 07:01 PM   #39
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Just ordered me a set from a local vendor. Will take a week to get here... time to have some fun with what's left of these goodyears. :-D

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Old 10-02-2013, 09:11 PM   #40
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very interested in the factory wheel offsets as well, standing by for the final findings you guys are looking into. thanks for the info thus far!
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:53 PM   #41
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Spare tire

I know this is a little off the current dialogue,but I have a question.

I want to buy a cheap spare tire for my 1LE. Don't want to buy a whole new black 1Le wheel for 1000 dollars.

What can I get that will fit in the current trunk wheel well. Also heard something about an offset plate.
Can I use the stamped wheel from the 1Lt or similar and will it fit in the trunk well.

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Old 10-07-2013, 05:24 PM   #42
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I know this is a little off the current dialogue,but I have a question.

I want to buy a cheap spare tire for my 1LE. Don't want to buy a whole new black 1Le wheel for 1000 dollars.

What can I get that will fit in the current trunk wheel well. Also heard something about an offset plate.
Can I use the stamped wheel from the 1Lt or similar and will it fit in the trunk well.

cant stand taking a long trip with only that tire repair inflator
I use a stock SS front wheel, 20x8 with a tire that is 28.1 outside diameter, will have to look to see what it is, because you need a spare that is same size as rear tire to not hurt the rear end...I don't know if the 1lt or spare that comes with Non SS/RS cars will work.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:39 AM   #43
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Hi My boyfriend owns a 2013 camaro 1le I'm looking into ideas on what I can get him for his birthday for his car I was thinking a car cover. I saw weather shield and gm but they are really pricey can you give me ideas on any other good car overs at a reasonable price thank you
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:00 PM   #44
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I use a stock SS front wheel, 20x8 with a tire that is 28.1 outside diameter, will have to look to see what it is, because you need a spare that is same size as rear tire to not hurt the rear end...I don't know if the 1lt or spare that comes with Non SS/RS cars will work.
Yes, thanks. So if the diameter is right then I can use an SS wheel and tire. I thought that the 1le had an offset that requires an adapter plate.

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No, I have a 1LE and have mounted the full size stock SS 20x8 front wheel to both front and back with no issues. The adapter is if you are trying to use the spare that comes with the V6 Camaro on an SS car, the wheel will not clear the Brembo's...
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No, I have a 1LE and have mounted the full size stock SS 20x8 front wheel to both front and back with no issues. The adapter is if you are trying to use the spare that comes with the V6 Camaro on an SS car, the wheel will not clear the Brembo's...

Just the answer I needed.


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Old 10-08-2013, 03:32 PM   #47
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Just the answer I needed.


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Just to be clear, if you're running the stock 1LE configuration, you need to find a tire that is 27.9" tall to match your rear Goodyear F1 tire if you need to use as a spare on the back. The 28.1 OD I referenced is what my 295/35-20 is measured at...
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:22 PM   #48
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What are the actual wheel's weights?
We know the 11s will not fit up front but has anyone tried mounting the 10" fronts on the rear? What if we could buy 2 more 10" rims and truly be able to rotate front to back for better tire wear
ANYBODY???
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Just to be clear, if you're running the stock 1LE configuration, you need to find a tire that is 27.9" tall to match your rear Goodyear F1 tire if you need to use as a spare on the back. The 28.1 OD I referenced is what my 295/35-20 is measured at...

Thanks again. What about a 20 by 9 or 20 by 10 SS wheel and tire if it has the required 28.1 OD?

Also will any of those SS Wheels and tires sit in my spare tire spot in the trunk?

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Thanks again. What about a 20 by 9 or 20 by 10 SS wheel and tire if it has the required 28.1 OD?

Also will any of those SS Wheels and tires sit in my spare tire spot in the trunk?

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None of them will fit in the spare spot in the trunk...you need to use a 20x8 front wheel to get it to fit in the trunk....not sure a 20x9 will even fit...
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