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Old 09-30-2014, 07:29 AM   #1
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Question 2013 Lfx stock camaro vs. 84 el camino v8

I'm not trying to start a another v6 vs v8 forum fight, I bought a v6 because that's what I could afford at 19 which I am paying for myself. Although I do plan on upgrading once I make a little more and have this payed off, but this is a discussion for another day.

My younger brother is getting a new crate 325 put in his car pretty soon and we plan to take our cars to the local drag strip (1/8 mile). His car (automatic) has upgraded exhaust and headers, also a racing shifter but I think that is it. My question is how well would my car do against his?
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:16 AM   #2
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Once that 325 is installed you will be seeing nothing but truck bed.

Remember, the Toyota Camry is just .2 slower than our v6 Camaros.

Your car will last a bit longer if you two keep racing them, though. Lol.
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In my opinion, the best chance you have is that the El Camino may have trouble getting traction due to the light rear end. If he gets it to hook just a bit, he wins.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:43 AM   #4
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yeah its hard to say in the 1/4 I would say you have it, because he probably has 3 speed auto with 2.73 gears and 325 ci isn't that a big V8. But you dont need more then 3 gears on a 1/8 mile. hard to say only one way to find out
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:28 AM   #5
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yeah its hard to say in the 1/4 I would say you have it, because he probably has 3 speed auto with 2.73 gears and 325 ci isn't that a big V8. But you dont need more then 3 gears on a 1/8 mile. hard to say only one way to find out
I think 325 is HP, not CI....but I could be wrong.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:53 AM   #6
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I think 325 is HP, not CI....but I could be wrong.
I belive that is correct I'm not sure what other details on the engine just what he told me that it was 325 HP
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:01 AM   #7
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This is just a guess, but I think the answer is in the transmission. If it's a 3-speed auto, those things are dogs. Foot buried to the carpet, 1st gear covers all the way from a stop to almost 50mph depending on gearing. The question is, does it have enough torque to get out of the hole any quicker than you with a gearing advantage?

That would be a fun run to watch!
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:05 AM   #8
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Just heard from my dad it is a 350 engine with 325HP
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:35 PM   #9
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El Camino - 325 HP at the crank, 3 speed automatic, 2.73 gearing (most likely)
Camaro 323 HP at the crank, 6 speed automatic, I forget the gearing but 2.73 also??

It would be close but I give Camaro the win, those transmission are dogs and the torque converters such on them and BIG questions is it carb or fuel injected?
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:57 PM   #10
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El Camino - 325 HP at the crank, 3 speed automatic, 2.73 gearing (most likely)
Camaro 323 HP at the crank, 6 speed automatic, I forget the gearing but 2.73 also??

It would be close but I give Camaro the win, those transmission are dogs and the torque converters such on them and BIG questions is it carb or fuel injected?
Your not taking into account the el camino has a huge weight advantage.

I just rebuilt a 350.. Bored .30 over Comp cam roller rockers edelbrock 4 barrel carb headers.. I'm expecting about 380hp
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He has a edelbrock carb, also just remembered he has edelbrock headers on it not sure what ones though

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Old 09-30-2014, 02:12 PM   #12
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He has a edelbrock crab, also just remembered he has edelbrock headers on it not sure what ones though
You need to find out more about his build. He's just puting in a crate 350 or is he building it? 2 different animals. A crate or built 350? Because if he's building it a new cam and a machine shop to bore it over he can be at 400hp in a 3,000lb car. Which will murder your v6.
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A lot of variables here but I think it will be a good run. Due to the lack of weight in his rear end, I'd give you a slight advantage. Hook 'em up quick and you should win (barely).
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'84 El Camino curb weight is right around 3300lbs according to the GM Heritage Center.

On a 2013 Camaro with the LFX, the curb weight is north of 3780 lbs

I guess I never realized how much our cars really weigh. Wow.

The axle ratio in the 1LS and LT cars is 3.27.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:52 PM   #15
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The V6 has a 4.07 first gear, a Hydromatic 3 speed has a 2.52.

4.07*3.27 = 13.309 overall ratio.
If the El Camino has a 2.73 final drive *2.52 = 6.88 overall.
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if its a built motor im pretty confident he will get in front of you. having said that if the gearing is stock in that elky, that will even things out a good bit. but let me ask you this. how much wheel spin do you run into on your camaro?
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Im willing to bet Camaro wins. Honestly I dont think its even a question. 2.52 gears???? Thats terrible and it has no weight in the back so its gonna be skipping all over the place.
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He may also be getting slicks for the track. So that will help him
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He may also be getting slicks for the track. So that will help him
yeah but you said mostly stock camino with minor bolt ons.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:55 PM   #20
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I would think a generic small block El Camino is a 14 second car just like your Camaro. Even if he has slicks and does not spin the tires, it will likely be flat coming out of the hole unless he has a stall. It will have as much to do with the drivers as anything. If you really want to take control, put a 100 shot on and blow his doors off.
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I can say this because I'm not *really* a fan of El Caminos... but, even if he wins, who goes home in a new Camaro? You do...
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I can say this because I'm not *really* a fan of El Caminos... but, even if he wins, who goes home in a new Camaro? You do...
very true but come on I can't let my little brother win
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I had a 350 in my 71 elco.. Holley carb and a Muncie 4 speed.. but it felt no where as fast as my v6 Camaro.. that or I got high off of my exhaust fumes... I dunno.. let us know!


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Do the real mans test and go to the track....contest over.
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