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Old 07-08-2013, 12:54 PM   #101
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OK so Im worried too.

Should I buy this or *something else?
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Where is the best place to mount it?
In cabin I would assume?
But where?
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:20 PM   #102
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OK so Im worried too.

Should I buy this or *something else?
--- Ring Automotive Ltd 1kg Abc Dry Powered Fire Extinguisher Ce And Bsi Approved http://bit.ly/12yJrd7

Where is the best place to mount it?
In cabin I would assume?
But where?
Have mine mounted right here, perfect spot.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:13 AM   #103
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Thanks camaro-heater :-)
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:16 AM   #104
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:37 AM   #105
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Thank you much man. Well I've got an order for a AGM ZL1 with Becky - no turning back now.
Best color. I'm going to be very jealous if you go the stealth look with it.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:02 AM   #106
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Time for the curmudgeon in me to come out.

Engine bay fires are extremely dangerous. Opening the hood to use a fire extinguisher is more dangerous. Never, never feed a fire air. Unless you have an automatic fire suppression system under hood it is going to burn down. Get out of the car and run to safety.

Burning cars feel no pain.
It is not unusual for people with their clothing in flames to beg for death to end the pain.

There are quite a few first responders in here. Please speak up.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:57 AM   #107
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Time for the curmudgeon in me to come out.

Engine bay fires are extremely dangerous. Opening the hood to use a fire extinguisher is more dangerous. Never, never feed a fire air. Unless you have an automatic fire suppression system under hood it is going to burn down. Get out of the car and run to safety.

Burning cars feel no pain.
It is not unusual for people with their clothing in flames to beg for death to end the pain.

There are quite a few first responders in here. Please speak up.
I am in total agreement with Pete on this. No car is worth the pain of burns or even death. There is always tomorrow and another car.

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Old 07-10-2013, 11:58 AM   #108
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OK, Pete...lol...Personally I've never seen a small fire-extinguisher "save" a car from an engine fire....(Maybe in the old days an air-filter could be put out from a back-fire...lol)....Best thing is stop in a safe area, if possible, turn off the ignition, call 911...odds are you won't be able to open the hood anyways...One of the first things to get ruined in a fire is the hood cable...

Numerous times I've seen several extinguishers used on car fires from the pd, good samaritans, etc....all laying on the ground expended and the fire still going...

Grab it and use it if you want, but get your passengers and yourself out of the car and a safe distance away first....Additionally, I wouldn't lay it horizontally....if they sit long enough, the nozzle gets clogged from the powder seeping out ever so slightly...

If anything it's more dangerous having a pressurized "can" in the cabin anyway...a passenger kicks the handle or whatever, and you got a huge mess on your hands...lol
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:38 PM   #109
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Congrats on the ZL1! Are you planning on modding to the extent of your last Camaro?
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:08 PM   #110
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Time for the curmudgeon in me to come out.

Engine bay fires are extremely dangerous. Opening the hood to use a fire extinguisher is more dangerous. Never, never feed a fire air. Unless you have an automatic fire suppression system under hood it is going to burn down. Get out of the car and run to safety.

Burning cars feel no pain.
It is not unusual for people with their clothing in flames to beg for death to end the pain.

There are quite a few first responders in here. Please speak up.
Pete's spot on with this. Let's say I had had a fire extinguisher - I still wouldn't have opened the hood. Not only because it will feed the fire, but you run the risk of flashover when you open the hood.

It'd be use to contain/slow down the fire until everyone who was in the car was safely out.

But I'll tell you, as will any EMT/fire-fighter/paramedic; your own safety first, then the patient's.

Now, if I had the money to buy one of those fancy automated fire suppression systems (and the car was modded enough to where I could justify the cost), absolutely would I install it.


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Congrats on the ZL1! Are you planning on modding to the extent of your last Camaro?
On a lighter note - thank you everyone for the well wishes and congrats. I'll more than likely be keeping the ZL1 90% stock (performance wise I mean) - besides a catch can and cold air intake I am pretty sure they only performance mods will some Pedders red to help me with the twisties
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:42 PM   #111
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:58 AM   #112
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Time for the curmudgeon in me to come out.

Engine bay fires are extremely dangerous. Opening the hood to use a fire extinguisher is more dangerous. Never, never feed a fire air. Unless you have an automatic fire suppression system under hood it is going to burn down. Get out of the car and run to safety.

Burning cars feel no pain.
It is not unusual for people with their clothing in flames to beg for death to end the pain.

There are quite a few first responders in here. Please speak up.
Agreed. Open that hood to try to put out a fire and VOOM! You are now on fire yourself...with your clothes burning ON your skin.

But fire extinguishers (even outside the engine compartment) can save lives.

Just today.

Just today...

Major accident in front of the North Sub. It'll be on the news for sure. Two vehicle head on. One guy in one car already DOA. People in the other car were trapped and needed the jaws of life to get them out. First responders (police were there first) pulled their extinguishers since a fire had started in one of the cars (believe it was the decedents car). Officer is on the radio yelling for more extinguishers. Other officers arrive and put out the flames....resulting in the lives of those of the vehicle who were struck by the guy being saved.

no...there was no need to pry open the hood. There basically was no hood. In a situation like this, yes...fire extinguishers are a blessing. In a situation where you are driving down the road and up in flames, get out....don't open that hood. Either a supression system should be in place or it just ain't worth it.

Accident where cars are mangled and it doesn't matter? An extinguisher WILL save a life....or two like today.
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If there's enough of them, and under certain circumstances they might be useful, like with the crash story....The point of my previous post was that don't think one extinguisher in your car will prevent your car from burning to the ground like Stig's...lol...
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:54 PM   #114
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Guess who's TPW is this week......this guy's!
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:29 PM   #115
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Guess who's TPW is this week......this guy's!
Nice!!! Seems fast, but then again, Im not the one waiting for my car to be built lol.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:33 PM   #116
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:56 PM   #117
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:55 AM   #118
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:40 AM   #119
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:59 AM   #120
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Awesome... can't wait for you to change that sig.
And start a new build thread? I forget if the idea was to keep this one going or not.

Good progress report on the ZL1 though. I don't know if I would have the strength to wait on a car to be built. I'd be outside my apartment rocking back and forth telling myself "It'll be here soon" over and over...
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Time for the curmudgeon in me to come out.

Engine bay fires are extremely dangerous. Opening the hood to use a fire extinguisher is more dangerous. Never, never feed a fire air. Unless you have an automatic fire suppression system under hood it is going to burn down. Get out of the car and run to safety.

Burning cars feel no pain.
It is not unusual for people with their clothing in flames to beg for death to end the pain.

There are quite a few first responders in here. Please speak up.
Pete, I love ya man, but in this case I disagree... I'm not a first responder, technically I am, but it's more of a "first on the scene with an extinguisher"... I've seen my share of auto fires, and am required by law to carry one. In some cases they're useless as teats on a boar hog, in others they can save auto's and even lives.

Los Angeles, a guy in a rustang runs over a plastic bag, it gets on his exhaust and starts a small fire. I watched the whole thing, stopped behind him, sprayed the bag and all was good. (punk didn't even offer to buy me a new extinguisher!)

Nevada middle of nowhereville, a chev SUV has electrical problems, by the time we got to it, everyone was out of the vehicle, but the car was a goner... if the owner would have had an extinguisher and any tool to kill the battery supply, it could have easily been saved without danger.... we still... almost... saved it.

I have stories that go both ways, in some the extinguisher is just a paper weight, in others it kept cars from burning to the ground.

Tag's example is a good one, and not a rarity...

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if that was you, wouldn't you also wish someone would come along with an extinguisher? I had an aunt, uncle, and their three kids burned severely in a car fire due to an accident. A friend with them was the one you described above, she didn't make it.

fortunately I've never been first at the scene on one of the bad ones, but if I am, I'm (somewhat) ready with an extinguisher and bolt cutters.

As for me and my cars, we will carry extinguishers... a pry bar is handy also.

It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
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I think what Pete was saying was an extinguisher inside the cabin wouldn't be of much use if there was a full flame fire under the hood....where it would be better to have a full extinguisher system installed. And a single extinguisher in the cabin would be good for the small fires, but if it's engulfed in flames under the hood, don't bother trying to open it (clothes, etc to skin)
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:43 AM   #123
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So then ... anyone done, or anyone have info / links, for a Halon ring install for our Camaro's ?
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I think what Pete was saying was an extinguisher inside the cabin wouldn't be of much use if there was a full flame fire under the hood....where it would be better to have a full extinguisher system installed. And a single extinguisher in the cabin would be good for the small fires, but if it's engulfed in flames under the hood, don't bother trying to open it (clothes, etc to skin)
I guess I take it for granted that most would step away from a vehicle with flames licking the fenderwells or grill, but most definitely yes.

Had one of those in a truck stop a couple of years ago, the fire was fuel fed and the driver was in the cafe. We just watched it burn, and it went down FAST... come to find out his pup was in the cab, that's why he left it on in the first place. Live and learn.

Next time I'm busting glass and checking the cab/sleeper... could have easily been a co-driver instead of a dog.
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