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Old 10-04-2009, 07:07 AM   #126
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Then why ask?
The substitutes were of better/minor parts if I remember correctly. (thanks to the poster, it was Super Chevy)
I don't think a pro Chevy mag would do something to damage the rep of an iconic Chevy engine.
As I said it's been written about for years in different magazines & books. I've owned and coveted Camaros since the mid 70's, and have read many books etc about my fave the first gen. Z/28.

The 302 is an awesome motor as I believe I mentioned in my first post. Very few muscle type cars were capable of such high revs. It was built as a race car no doubt. It's just that the legend has been blown a little out of proportion.

And, don't forget Penske was very good at "cheating" the rules by doing numerous things to the engine/cars to win as they all did back then.
And along with the heads there were different cams used in the full out racing engines.

In closing 360HP out of a 302 back in 1967-69 is nothing to feel bad about.
For some reason, I once again can't get the "smilies" to work on this site. Anyway, with a big grin, I agree with you that cheating the rules was done to gain an advantage in EVERY form of auto racing over the years, Smokey Yunick consistently brought the fastest cars to NASCAR tracks years ago, but it would take him two days to get it to the point of passing a tech inspection. Though I think one of his best was at an SCCA Trans-Am race, a pre-race tech inspection had uncovered violations, Smokey's Z/28 was sitting there torn to pieces with the gas tank on the ground and an SCCA tech inspector said "You've got seven violations that need to be corrected". Smokey promptly jumped in the car, said "You'd better make that eight!" and started up the car and drove off leaving the gas tank at the tech inspectors feet. Anyway, despite my love of first gen. Camaros (Z/28s in particular), to get back on topic I do think that all signs are pointing to the LSA in this new Z/28. And I'm not excited about an overweight high horsepower version, but we'll get whatever Chevy ends up producing. At 60 years old I'm looking at buying probably my last Camaro and it would have been awesome to have a new Z/28 that was more heritage oriented.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:18 AM   #127
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there are rumors thata future engine for mustang could be 5.0 l v8 with turbochargers and about 600 hp..so i guess camaro z28 will also have forced induction engine. I would like to see Gen V small block with about 5.5 l v8 DI and forced induction and sam hprating as present ls9 in z2..but that will not happen
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For some reason, I once again can't get the "smilies" to work on this site. Anyway, with a big grin, I agree with you that cheating the rules was done to gain an advantage in EVERY form of auto racing over the years, Smokey Yunick consistently brought the fastest cars to NASCAR tracks years ago, but it would take him two days to get it to the point of passing a tech inspection. Though I think one of his best was at an SCCA Trans-Am race, a pre-race tech inspection had uncovered violations, Smokey's Z/28 was sitting there torn to pieces with the gas tank on the ground and an SCCA tech inspector said "You've got seven violations that need to be corrected". Smokey promptly jumped in the car, said "You'd better make that eight!" and started up the car and drove off leaving the gas tank at the tech inspectors feet. Anyway, despite my love of first gen. Camaros (Z/28s in particular), to get back on topic I do think that all signs are pointing to the LSA in this new Z/28. And I'm not excited about an overweight high horsepower version, but we'll get whatever Chevy ends up producing. At 60 years old I'm looking at buying probably my last Camaro and it would have been awesome to have a new Z/28 that was more heritage oriented.
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I totally agree, the Z/28 must not be fully loaded! It is a streetable racing (type) car. I want a Z/28 RS in black that I couldn't ever find in my youth.
I could buy a 1969 now, but the new ones are just so much better (just have to pull some weight out of it).


p.s. a 2010 Camaro full windshield washer bottle is around 10 lbs, bye bye.
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