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Old 09-01-2013, 06:36 PM   #51
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The other flaw is the loop starts tearing away from the seat. I feel bad for our members who paid 2k for seats that are flawed. The bigger question what's being done about it. This is unacceptable.
+1 - for $2,000 I really would have expected them to do more R&D with these things.
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:51 PM   #52
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I am 6'3" and my head hits the head liner in a GTO. How are you fitting in one at 6'9"? We are talking new style GTO right, not one from the late 60's?
I'm long legged but I rock the seat back. If I even try to sit up straight my head will hit. But I can fit in a 5th gen as long as there is not a sunroof.
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:54 PM   #53
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When thinking about resale 10,20,30 years down the road recaros, NPP, 1LE, RS are money in the bank. 40, 50 years down the road these will be the most sought after cars and a Recaros car could sill for $4-5K than a regular one.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:41 PM   #54
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When thinking about resale 10,20,30 years down the road recaros, NPP, 1LE, RS are money in the bank. 40, 50 years down the road these will be the most sought after cars and a Recaros car could sill for $4-5K than a regular one.
That's a whole lot of speculation based on no fact at all.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:12 AM   #55
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When thinking about resale 10,20,30 years down the road recaros, NPP, 1LE, RS are money in the bank. 40, 50 years down the road these will be the most sought after cars and a Recaros car could sill for $4-5K than a regular one.
I think your mistaking the 60's cars with the modern ones. I would not buy options based on future value's. Get what you want and can afford in your budget.
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:22 AM   #56
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That's a whole lot of speculation based on no fact at all.
Boy you just don't want to agree with anything I say.
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:49 AM   #57
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When thinking about resale 10,20,30 years down the road recaros, NPP, 1LE, RS are money in the bank. 40, 50 years down the road these will be the most sought after cars and a Recaros car could sill for $4-5K than a regular one.
I know you think Gearhead is simply disagreeing to disagree, but he's right when he said there's no facts to back that up. The facts that are available, such as sales figures, say that most of the time, buying any car and hoping it'll be worth something one day is like getting those scratch off lotto tickets. It's nice to hope, but once you do the scratching, 99% of the players are disappointed they just gave away their money.

If the Recaro's leather is like regular seat GM leather, it's not going to last 40 or 50 years, let alone 10. And this is based on past facts. Looks like they're not going to last 4 or 5 weeks if the seatbelt holder issue doesn't get fixed.

But in 40 or 50 years, cars like ours may be only seen in museums. You just don't know for sure. NEVER buy a car thinking about potential classic value for decades later. Mecum, et al, may not be around by then to auction off a car at stupidly insane prices.

Now, if you're pretty sure you're going to want to trade it in or sell in say, 4 or 5 years, you might want to consider items that could help short term resale value. Although I don't ever think about what someone else would like when buying my cars, that's the only way I would see considering options for resale value.
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Old 09-14-2013, 03:06 AM   #58
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I don't use the seat belt holders on my Camaro so that they do not rip away. Perfect fix to that flaw. I'm tall enough that the belt is right behind my neck anyways.
Second, if the seat belt holder is not used on these seats, the buckle will be tucked to far back to scratch the panel. I personally do not care for the seat belt holders.
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I don't use the seat belt holders on my Camaro so that they do not rip away. Perfect fix to that flaw. I'm tall enough that the belt is right behind my neck anyways.
Second, if the seat belt holder is not used on these seats, the buckle will be tucked to far back to scratch the panel. I personally do not care for the seat belt holders.
Ok - but what about people who aren't tall? Not exactly a perfect fix for them.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:09 AM   #60
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The other flaw is the loop starts tearing away from the seat.
How? What generates the force causing it to tear?

Just curious. My BRZ has similar loops, and I'm not seeing any issues with them.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:34 AM   #61
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How? What generates the force causing it to tear?

Just curious. My BRZ has similar loops, and I'm not seeing any issues with them.

Just pulling the belt down to click it in, its not really the loop coming off as much as the belt giving a friction burn to the leather...... you just have to pull out and up first, this should avoid the issue... should....
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:41 AM   #62
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Gotcha. That's a bad design; seems like most cars with loops are set up where the strap runs under the belt, then loops back over - so the belt never touches the seat material, only the strap.

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Old 03-11-2014, 01:14 AM   #63
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just to verify, are the recaro's heated in the zl1?
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:31 AM   #64
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just to verify, are the recaro's heated in the zl1?
Yes, the only way to get unheated Recaro seats is if you order an 1SS
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just to verify, are the recaro's heated in the zl1?

Yes. They also have side airbags built into them.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:55 AM   #66
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:07 PM   #67
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I was on the fence about getting them or going with the 2SS leather. After sitting in them once there was no looking back. Not only look amazing but feel amazing too !!
Highly recommend them if your budget allows it.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:03 PM   #68
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Old 03-11-2014, 02:19 PM   #69
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:48 PM   #70
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I think everyone is different. After going to a car show that had a new 14 SS with Recaros I tried it and eh... I'll pass and just use my CG lock at the track. I'd rather go with the manual Recaros used in the new Z/28 if I was to do a swap for weight savings.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:23 PM   #71
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I've had 4 sets of Recaro's, and can say, these are the worst build quality I've seen, but they are also the first OEM Recaro's I've owned. My new seat covers are on order from the dealer due to belt loop tearing. They're replacing both upper and lower covers, the lowers are already showing signs of heavy wear...after 2k miles.

I like how the seats feel, but I do not see them lasting 20k miles
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:33 PM   #72
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No Recaros, No regret ... The seats I have now are fine, If I start performance driving down the road then maybe. If you want them, I say get them worse case scenario is you sell em no biggie. I wanted 1LE with NPP after that it was all gravy.
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:01 AM   #73
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Can NPP be added after the fact? The dealer here has a CRT 1LE with everything minus NPP and Recaro's. I went to another dealer and checked out the Recaro's and while I fit, I don't intend to track the car and I am willing to forgo the Recaro's. The seats are nice but I don't think they are $2K nice. However the NPP I do want. The dealer is ready to move this car and I was asked to put a number on it. If NPP can be added, I may pick this car up. If not, I see little reason to get a '14 at the this point. I would likely wait and order a 2015. If not factory NPP what does it cost to mimic the sound of NPP?
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