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Old 08-30-2013, 04:53 PM   #18
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From what i understand,clean fluid prevents the clutch from sticking.
OK, now I am confused! If it is clutch dust that makes the fluid dirty, as was claimed by one member a few posts up, and the problem is that dirty fluid causes the clutch to stick, then how does separating the clutch and brake reservoirs help the clutch not stick? I can see swapping it out as you say you do, but why do the mod? Again, I apologize if I am missing something, I just do not like to spend money without knowing the real benefit.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:11 PM   #19
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Im not the reservoir of knowledge that some here are all i know is the clutch sticking,as well all that dust in the brake lines isn't good.I imagine if you separate and never change the fluid then it does no good at all,other then keeping your brake lines clean.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:13 PM   #20
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How does the dust get in there? Isn't the clutch slave sealed?
This is the question that I have.
How exactly does the dust get into the fluid?
If there was a pathway for the dust to get in, that same pathway would let fluid out, especially if it was under pressure.

The clutch hydraulic system is sealed. It has to be, otherwise it wouldn't work. Every time you stepped on the clutch pedal, the fluid would just piss out.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:39 PM   #21
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This is the question that I have.
How exactly does the dust get into the fluid?
If there was a pathway for the dust to get in, that same pathway would let fluid out, especially if it was under pressure.

The clutch hydraulic system is sealed. It has to be, otherwise it wouldn't work. Every time you stepped on the clutch pedal, the fluid would just piss out.

Further explanation please... I want to do whats right by the car but I want to do whats right by my wallet as well
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:59 PM   #22
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5500 miles on my 1LE
4500 on the Motul 600 fluid
3 track events
1 day at the drag strip.
Many many day of aggressive launches and hard driving
Fluid is as clean as honey (new)

Stock brake/clutch reservoir combo still in place sharing the fluid with no issues.....

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I have 8k on mine with hard, urban driving and it still looks like fresh fluid.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:06 PM   #23
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I am also struggling with the mod theory since I honestly can't see how the fluid gets contaminated.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:12 PM   #24
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I have 8k on mine with hard, urban driving and it still looks like fresh fluid.
I dont see how that can be,i mean after every tank my fluid is dark bronze.Please take a pic so we can see.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:15 PM   #25
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I dont see how that can be,i mean after every tank my fluid is dark bronze.Please take a pic so we can see.
Will do!
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:24 PM   #26
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I just went out and took a pic.This is mine after only probably 50 miles,and easy driving.I changed right after i got done with my track day at Fontana.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:26 PM   #27
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:28 PM   #28
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I have this mod, but have not installed it yet. Not sure how clutch dust can get in the fluid. Discoloration from heat over time maybe? I bought this mod because if you hot lap your LS3 at the drag strip you can experience the clutch sticking to the floor. Some have claimed this mod will resolve that problem.

I did experience this a couple of times in my '11 SS. But not yet on the 1LE, even though last night I must have made 20 runs. My 1LE has only has 2,000 miles on it, my '11 SS had 24,000 including a very lengthy track day. So it could be that this effect happens as the fluid ages under heavy use. So if this mod makes is easier to change the clutch fluid then it is worth while. Of course heavy use of the brakes would add the same requirement for the brake fluid.

I think if you do not track your 1LE at all, the mod may be just for peace of mind. If you do, at least it makes changing the clutch fluid easier and might give you a little more life out of your brake fluid.

This mod belongs with the Ported TB, the TB Wedge, and the fuse pull. Cheap mods that might do some good, but can't hurt.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:32 PM   #29
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Hi Doug,clean that
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:33 PM   #30
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I have this mod, but have not installed it yet. Not sure how clutch dust can get in the fluid. Discoloration from heat over time maybe? I bought this mod because if you hot lap your LS3 at the drag strip you can experience the clutch sticking to the floor. Some have claimed this mod will resolve that problem.

I did experience this a couple of times in my '11 SS. But not yet on the 1LE, even though last night I must have made 20 runs. My 1LE has only has 2,000 miles on it, my '11 SS had 24,000 including a very lengthy track day. So it could be that this effect happens as the fluid ages under heavy use. So if this mod makes is easier to change the clutch fluid then it is worth while. Of course heavy use of the brakes would add the same requirement for the brake fluid.

I think if you do not track your 1LE at all, the mod may be just for peace of mind. If you do, at least it makes changing the clutch fluid easier and might give you a little more life out of your brake fluid.

This mod belongs with the Ported TB, the TB Wedge, and the fuse pull. Cheap mods that might do some good, but can't hurt.

I had my clutch sticking mid way or on the floor and the dreaded second gear grind. I put in the remote res, tick high flow clutch line and ideal garage master cylinder. I now have no problems at all. I road race my car so I am not easy on it and it has not given me any trouble after these mods.

Not sure if it makes it any easier to bleed the clutch but it does prevent the brake fluid from getting dirty and it will save the brake seals and abs stuff in the long run.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:34 PM   #31
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Hi Doug,clean that
Haha I did Mark! I change it with every oil change. Need to do the tick remote clutch bleeder line now though. It's a PITA to bleed it.
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Is that that thing that can be installed but only after dropping the tranny?
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Is that that thing that can be installed but only after dropping the tranny?
yup, only reason I haven't done it yet.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:52 PM   #34
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I've been riding sport bikes for 30 years and clutch fluid gets dark on them too, but its from heat, not from dust contamination. I have never changed the fluids on the bikes other than the normal maintenance intervals. I have friends who constantly change theirs as soon as they see it starting to darken. Never had any issues on my bikes with the clutch sticking. I've had Ducati's, KTM's, Aprilias, Honda's and Yamaha's and never had an issue.

From everyone I've talked to and the research I've done, it turns dark from moisture absorption (although this takes a long time) but with the clutch its the more frequent actuation and heat that makes it go dark so quickly. If it was clutch dust you would also be leaking fluid.
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