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Old 03-12-2008, 12:47 AM   #1
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Exclamation I REALLY, REALLY HATE TO DO THIS

well I really hate to put myself out there like this but,...my experiance thus far tells me that you are a great group of people. so here we go.

as some of you know, my time in the military is unfortunately coming to an end due to a serious injury/condition. So this summer I will become a disabled veteran. What does that mean? I have to find a way to market my skills dispite disability in a manner that will help me find a JOB:( . So to maximize networking to its fullest potential Id like to ask that anyone with any information that could be of my benefit feel free to let me know asap.

Just a little background information.

for the last 6 years Ive been a strategic ballistic nuclear missile technician for the united states navy. My duties involved everything from being a nuclear weapons security guard, to operating, maintaining, and repairing the weapons, electrical, mechanical, hydraulic, pneumatic systems and support systems.

So If you know of a job(s) that could use my talents, if your hiring(FBODFATHER), have some knowledge, or tools at your disposal, even if you just know somebody that knows somebody. feel free

thanks!
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TFORD...Don't worry about it...if you’re a Camaro fan...your family.

I work for Boeing in Quality Control on the 777, I've work in Aerospace for 20 years now and I see a serious shortage in qualify tech's. And a need for Aerospace Engineers.

So my first suggestion for you would be, to go (or back) to school and get your college education.

In the job market today if you want to make a good living, you to have a BS in something.

I don't know where you live, or plan on living...but study the work force / industry and plan accordingly....three’s a lot of great programs to help vet's, especially with further education. So take advantage and your time, and do it right!

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Old 03-12-2008, 01:10 AM   #3
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TFORD...Don't worry about it...if you’re a Camaro fan...your family.

I work for Boeing in Quality Control on the 777, I've work in Aerospace for 20 years now and I see a serious shortage in qualify tech's. And a need for Aerospace Engineers.

So my first suggestion for you would be, to go (or back) to school and get your college education.

In the job market today if you want to make a good living, you to have a BS in something.

I don't know where you live, or plan on living...but study the work force / industry and plan accordingly....three’s a lot of great programs to help vet's, especially with further education. So take advantage and your time, and do it right!

Good luck!

Thanx Noodles, by the way Im sorry to hear about that AF contract. I dont know whats up with them spending that money overseas...not to mention the jobs. right now I live in Tacoma, I like WA so I might be staying here. Id love to go to school, and most of my credits for military training are in an engineering field. The problem is that I have a family to provide for and I dont know If thats possible being a fulltime student. with the medication that Im always on night classes are out of the question. Ill figure it out though!
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Thanks...But I think its not over yet, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the contract split in two and both company’s share the wealth.

Funny thing is I work for Northrop for 10 years on the B2 Stealth Bomber, so I’m stuck in the middle! Cuz I have friends working for them also.....

I also am working towards an Engineering Deg. With 4 kids and a wife of my own...I feel your pain. I’m going to do my best and someday Ill be done. But I can understand with the med's your on...it would be tough, but well worth the effort if you can pull it off.

Since you live in the Seattle area you should apply with Boeing, The timing is right as we are hiring tons of people of the street with little or no experience...Boeing is expect nearly 40% of their work force to retire in the next 5 to 7 years...so there over hiring to fill the void once the old timers retire...so now’s the time to get in.

Here’s the link to the employment website...Set-up a profile, enter your resume, and search for job openings, then apply for as many jobs as you think your qualified for!...Don't be shy!!! If you want my advice...apply for everything...all the can say in no, and your at no already, so you have nothing to lose you.

http://www.boeing.com/employment/

Good luck...let me know what happens!
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really appreciate the info noodles...timing is great Ive been working on my resume for a little while, and tomarrow it gonna get polished! I really hope that happens with the AF. all the best to you!

apparently theres talk in congress to revamp the GI bill so that it fully covers the actuall cost of four year college plus some for living expenses! if that happens
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really appreciate the info noodles...timing is great Ive been working on my resume for a little while, and tomarrow it gonna get polished! I really hope that happens with the AF. all the best to you!

apparently theres talk in congress to revamp the GI bill so that it fully covers the actuall cost of four year college plus some for living expenses! if that happens
No problem Bro...I support the troops...and I'd vote for the bill, if i could.

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well I really hate to put myself out there like this but,...my experiance thus far tells me that you are a great group of people. so here we go.

as some of you know, my time in the military is unfortunately coming to an end due to a serious injury/condition. So this summer I will become a disabled veteran. What does that mean? I have to find a way to market my skills dispite disability in a manner that will help me find a JOB:( . So to maximize networking to its fullest potential Id like to ask that anyone with any information that could be of my benefit feel free to let me know asap.

Just a little background information.

for the last 6 years Ive been a strategic ballistic nuclear missile technician for the united states navy. My duties involved everything from being a nuclear weapons security guard, to operating, maintaining, and repairing the weapons, electrical, mechanical, hydraulic, pneumatic systems and support systems.

So If you know of a job(s) that could use my talents, if your hiring(FBODFATHER), have some knowledge, or tools at your disposal, even if you just know somebody that knows somebody. feel free

thanks!
With your experience I would stay close to government work. Either as a GS or a contractor. The biggest limiting factor is, are you willing to move to get a job...

For government positions (GS) create a profile at this site and set up a search that will email you new positions matched to your experience. www.usajobs.gov This is the only way for public sector to get a GS Job. Thousands of jobs on on this site.

If you want to go private sector then look at all the big Government contractors. SAIC, Ratheon, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Booze Allen Hamilton (BAH), Northrop Grumman, ...
Basically everyone on this list. Top 25 GSA Contractors

And Since you are prior Navy You should look at this list also.Top 25 Navy Contractors A lot of these are on both lists.

Go to everyone of these sites and I promise, with your background, you will find jobs.

I work for SAIC and am quite certain that if you do a search on our web site for jobs in your field you will find something. You may not realize how much contractors contribute to the development of the stuff you've been using while in the Navy. I'm only saying this to show you that your expertise and experience to a contractor that does BM work, is extremely valuable. Your security clearance alone is worth about 50 G's to a company that doesn't have to pay to have you cleared on their own.

Speaking of clearance jobs, Register at this site also, Clearance Jobs.comThis is a Dice job search. And yes, register with monster also.

Be careful with Monster, There are a few scams where people email you with Finance jobs "moving money" from one account to another. In case you didn't already know.

Last thing. If you know a civilian professional, Not a GS and Not active duty Navy, that can help you with your resume, pester them until they help you. If not, and you don't feel comfortable writing your own resume, Pay to have a professional write it. Especially if you are going to post it online. I hate updateing my resume it's a pain in the ass but take an entire day to write it take your time and put everything you can think of in there every school, every command,every job, get the dates, get your supervisors, EVERYTHING. If you still have a copy of the long ass questionnaire you filled out for your clearance, that is a perfect place to start your resume. Then make it sound non-Navy and trim out what you don't need. Keep any resume you submit to two pages or less. If you can't afford to pay for a resume writer, and you don't have anyone to help. Send me your complete resume with everything in it and I'll chop it for you. My pleasure. Second last thing Practice your interviews. This is what will get you a job. I hate to admit it but I've hired people who turned out to be crappy employees, because the killed the interview. Now I fired them but they still got the job.

Holy CRAP!!! Sorry for the book. These are just the things I wish someone had told me when I got out. I hope this helps. I didn't mean to sound like you don't know how to do any of this. I only know that I didn't, and it was a steep learning curve to try and figure it out on my own. You may be well ahead of where I was when I got out.

Ah Hell, One more thing. Get a letter of recomendation from the Highest Ranking Officer you know. If you can get an Admiral then great. Other wise your CO will be good. My first resume looked like crap I got the interview based on my LOR and I got the job because I did well in the interview. That LOR has been invaluable..

Keep us posted. Best of luck.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:39 PM   #8
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gtahvit I reall appreciate it, I work a lot with lockheed, GD, and Northrupp Grumman(spelling) Ive been doing a lot of the things you stated above, Ive also been told that networking is just as valuable too.
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Hey Noodles...a military to civilian website says that avionics technician best matches a civilian job for me!
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gtahvit I reall appreciate it, I work a lot with lockheed, GD, and Northrupp Grumman(spelling) Ive been doing a lot of the things you stated above, Ive also been told that networking is just as valuable too.
Absolutely, I thought you getting the word out here was pretty a pretty smart move.
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I have no idea if this is possible or not, but it's worth a shot. I remember when I was looking into a lot of nuclear physics programs and such that the medical field was in high demand for people that had some sort of experience with the ideas and such. An x-ray technician or something along those lines might work at least for a bit? Working in a hospital actually has a lot of advantages, including being able to set your own schedules to a point with hospitals open 24/7. Might be able to do that and get back to school, thats what I was thinking of doing myself.
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Hmm. Wait till this AF Contract gets out of the fire (because I hear boeing is stirring shite about it) and just apply to the winner.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:26 PM   #13
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I have no idea if this is possible or not, but it's worth a shot. I remember when I was looking into a lot of nuclear physics programs and such that the medical field was in high demand for people that had some sort of experience with the ideas and such. An x-ray technician or something along those lines might work at least for a bit? Working in a hospital actually has a lot of advantages, including being able to set your own schedules to a point with hospitals open 24/7. Might be able to do that and get back to school, thats what I was thinking of doing myself.

I really want to go to school also, but Ive got to take care of the family. depending on what I get for disability I may be able to pull school off. Heard good things about x-ray tech's. They get paid good, and Its not physically demanding, which is really a plus for someone with extensive nerve damage. Right now Im really trying to take advantage of this time to work on my resume. really appreciate the help everyone.
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Sorry I haven't been able to give you any advice, my friend. I'm really at a loss for good advice when it comes to military backgrounds and new jobs, etc. Honestly, I don't have a whole lot of knowledge when it comes to military. But, like you said...something that is not really physically demanding. But, you already knew that....still at a loss.

Hospital sounds good...w/ schedules and all. Job security shouldn't be an issue there, right?
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I dont think It would be and issue Tag...Ive also been looking into becoming a dispatcher, but I just learned that Ill have to get my typing speed up. also looking into juvenile corrections officer
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I dont think It would be and issue Tag...Ive also been looking into becoming a dispatcher, but I just learned that Ill have to get my typing speed up. also looking into juvenile corrections officer
Post around here for a few months. It'll get up there.
Seriously. ~5 months after I joined, my typing speed near tripled!
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Hmmm....dispatcher. That's something you could do...

clerk...person who takes the calls...and
dispatcher...person who gives out the calls.

We're civilianizing a lot of positions in our dept right now. All the sworn officers who are dispatching are being put back out into the field due to not enough officers on the street. We've had a bunch of trainees lately. Some good....some horrible. I WON'T go into stories about this.

But, if you can multi-task...like seriously multi-task, dispatching is a very respectable position. You have a lot of officers to watch over. I can't even begin to tell you how much I love one of our dispatchers up in the communications office...Kat. She is freakin awesome....period. No one can even come close to her ability....and she works WITH the officers taking the calls. It's increadible.

It can be stressful. But, it's not a bad job. The have the ergonimic chairs, you are at a desk (not hurting your back any further). If you're interested, go for it.
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New resume

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Qualification Summary:
Five years of experience with increasing responsibility involving management, maintenance, repair, and operational testing of computer controlled electronics, hydraulic, and pneumatic systems, ballistic missile fire control and targeting systems, and environmental control systems. Currently hold a Top Secret Security Clearance (SSBI).

Education:
01/04-01/04 Fire Control System Advanced Operations Kings Bay, GA
03/03/-08/03 Missile Technician D-5 Backfit “C” School Kings Bay, GA
• Distingushed Military Graduate 95% Average
11/02-02/03 Missile Technician Apprentice Technical Training Kings Bay, GA
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09/02-11/02 Basic Enlisted Submarine School Groton, CT
07/02-09/02 Recruit Training Great Lakes, IL
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Significant Accomplishments:
03/06-Competed against 12 Missile Technicians on the USS Wyoming (Gold) for promotion to Second Class Petty Officer. Advanced to Second Class in the 98th percentile Navy wide.

07/07-Received commendation from a Vice Admiral for leadership, and managerial abilities, resulting in the safe and secure transfer of more than 20 ballistic missiles, and 16 guidance system replacements in six weeks.

Experience:
United States Navy USS Wyoming (SSBN 742 Gold), Kings Bay, GA

Trident Weapons System Technician: Responsible for the safe and secure removal and installation of more than 30 tactical closures, explosive detonator, and conventional weapon operations.

Preventative Maintenance Management: Conducted over 200 Preventative maintenance checks each quarter on a variety of electronic, mechanical, and environmental control systems. Utilized schematics, technical manuals, and appropriate test equipment to isolate system failures to lowest replaceable or repairable component.

Proactive Leader: Technical knowledge and reliable performance allowed him to be assigned repeatedly as the Petty Officer in Charge of several technical operations, including Inertial Measurement Unit and Electronic Assembly replacements. These events are normally assigned to more senior personnel.
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hrrm your on the wrong side of the country for all my general dynamics connections... Ill give it a shot anyway

Ill pass this info on in case anything comes up..
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apparently theres talk in congress to revamp the GI bill so that it fully covers the actuall cost of four year college plus some for living expenses! if that happens
The state of Wisconsin already has this for Wisconsin residents who join & serve in the Military -

Wisconsin G.I. Bill Tuition Remission Program

The Wisconsin G.I. Bill provides a full waiver (“remission”) of tuition and fees for eligible veterans and their dependents for up to 8 full-time semesters or 128 credits at any University of Wisconsin System (UWS) or Wisconsin Technical College System (WTCS) institution for continuing education, or for study at the undergraduate or graduate level.

In accordance with 2005 Wisconsin Act 468, signed into law by Governor Jim Doyle on Memorial Day 2006 and effective with the 2007-08 academic year, the tuition remission is a full 100% of tuition and fees. (Beginning with the 2005 Fall semester under 2005 Wisconsin Act 25, sections 702m, 702n, 709m, and 709n, the remission provided to dependents was 100% and to veterans was 50% remission.)

The Wisconsin G.I. Bill is a state program that is entirely separate from the federal VA's Montgomery G.I. Bill. For more information on the federal G.I. Bill, see the Wisconsin SAA page.

For additional information, eligibility criteria, instructions on how to apply for the Wisconsin G.I. Bill, and statutory citations for the program, see the WDVA B0105 information and application booklet.

See the UWS WisGIBill FAQs or WTCS WisGIBill FAQs for frequently asked questions regarding the Wisconsin G.I. Bill and the University of Wisconsin System and the Wisconsin Technical College System.

Wisconsin G.I. Bill Tuition Remission Program for Veterans

For the Wisconsin G.I. Bill, the veteran must have been a Wisconsin resident at the time of entry onto active duty. Character of service and active duty service requirements apply.

The benefit recipient must reside in Wisconsin.

For veterans, there is no post-service time limitation (such as the federal Montgomery G.I. Bill 10-year delimiting date) on the use of the benefit. The veteran may attend full-time or part-time.

The benefit may be used for continuing education, or for study at the undergraduate or graduate level.

Wisconsin G.I. Bill Tuition Remission Program for Dependents

A 100% remission is provided to the qualifying dependents of an eligible veteran:

Spouse; or

Unremarried Surviving Spouse; or

Child between the ages of 18 and 25,
Where the qualifying Wisconsin (must have been a Wisconsin resident at the time of entry onto active duty) veteran:

Is currently rated by the federal VA with a combined service-connected disability rating of 30% or greater (Effective Fall Semester 2005); or

Died in the line of duty while on active, Reserve, or Guard duty (Effective Fall Semester 2005); or

Died as the direct result of a service-connected disabilty, as determined by the federal VA (Effective July 1, 2006).
For qualifying spouses and unremarried surviving spouses, the benefit must be used within 10 years of the date of death or the initial disability rating of 30% or greater. The spouse or unremarried surviving spouse may attend full-time or part-time.

For qualifying children, the benefit is available from ages 18 through 25. The child must attend full-time.

For the Wisconsin G.I. Bill, the veteran must have been a Wisconsin resident at the time of entry onto active duty. Character of service and active duty service requirements apply.

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Tford also one of the things you can look at is becoming a Civian that works for the Miltiary,

I met you at the Baydo show lol, only a few seconds to talk though since I was running the show.

but my husband makes pretty good money working for the military as a Civy.
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The new GI Bill, just passed: increases monthly $$$, about $1,000 per year for books etc... and allows a BAH type payment for housing during school. Up to $1,000 per month for rent etc...
or you can pass it on to dependants. Good improvements.

Does the Washington GIB. require all other GI Bill $$$ to be used prior?

Texas has the Hazelwood Act which waives ( for Texas vets ) tuition at State colleges/Universities, but the GI Bill has to have been used or unavailable...

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Tford also one of the things you can look at is becoming a Civian that works for the Miltiary,

I met you at the Baydo show lol, only a few seconds to talk though since I was running the show.

but my husband makes pretty good money working for the military as a Civy.
unfortunately theres a bit of a good ol' boy's system where Im at. As you can tell I dont quite fit in with that group. I had a job lined up that was civil service, It was exactly what Im doing now plus 1 extra thing. I was offered the job and the whole 9. The all of a sudden HR comes back saying that Im not qualified for the job, and someone is starting tomarrow. And guess what they want me to train the person who took my job, how to do the job. Its not gonna happen!
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The new GI Bill, just passed: increases monthly $$$, about $1,000 per year for books etc... and allows a BAH type payment for housing during school. Up to $1,000 per month for rent etc...
or you can pass it on to dependants. Good improvements.

Does the Washington GIB. require all other GI Bill $$$ to be used prior?

Texas has the Hazelwood Act which waives ( for Texas vets ) tuition at State colleges/Universities, but the GI Bill has to have been used or unavailable...

good luck TFord
Yeah Im from Illinois and we have the same deal. Unfortunately I wont be able to support my fam as a fulltime student. I was going career navy, as soon as I picked up 1st class I was going to drop my officer's package.
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