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Old 09-01-2013, 04:30 PM   #1
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Yaw rate sensor and side curtain airbags

Got into an accidental drift (no joke!) today and the seat belts retracted so tight, brakes locked up, and engine shut down, side curtain airbags (only) deployed and onstar called......

Why would GM ever not give you the option to turn that crap off!!! Costs more to fix than to install a dumb button.

FML.... Really........



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Old 09-01-2013, 04:37 PM   #2
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Got into an accidental drift (no joke!) today and the seat belts retracted so tight, brakes locked up, and engine shut down, side curtain airbags (only) deployed and onstar called......

Why would GM ever not give you the option to turn that crap off!!! Costs more to fix than to install a dumb button.

FML.... Really........



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Good luck with the dealer, I believe the other few instances where it happened, it was concluded that the car was acting accordingly to the situation and GM wasnt at fault.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:38 PM   #3
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there have been a good handful of people this has happened to as well the the same thing always seems to come out that the sensor did its job and when off when the computer said it should. good luck man.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:42 PM   #4
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I think its stupid that it even went off in the situation that it did. The option should be there allowing those features to be disabled. I cant imagine how many people autocross and road course and lose control....
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Old 09-02-2013, 01:02 AM   #5
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Wait, just so I understand, you were drifting, sliding sideways, and the side airbags went off?
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Mine have yet to go off on a road course and i have flat spotted a couple sets of tires going sideways and spinning and off course. dont know whats happening with yours, sure you didnt hit anything?
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I heard about your incident from a guy that was out there racing.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:18 AM   #8
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I think its stupid that it even went off in the situation that it did. The option should be there allowing those features to be disabled. I cant imagine how many people autocross and road course and lose control....
If your gonna take a street car and drift it, pull the fuses first.


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Old 09-02-2013, 05:52 AM   #9
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Which fuses do we pull for this?
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Old 09-02-2013, 10:42 AM   #10
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If your gonna take a street car and drift it, pull the fuses first.


Sucks to be this guy

I was doing an SCCA Solo Autocross....
That guy got lucky. My car yanked the seat belts tight as hell, side curtain airbags deployed, slammed on the brakes automatically, killed the engine, put the 4 way blinkers on ( Had to pull the battery to reset), and called onstar.. (Wtf LOL)

That guy wasn't even no where near as big of a slide as I was. holy crap.
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:36 AM   #11
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Which fuses do we pull for this?
^agreed, anyone know which fuses?
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If your gonna take a street car and drift it, pull the fuses first.


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WOW! WTF??? Thats WAY too sensitive.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:47 PM   #13
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This really sucks....Sorry to hear

Did this ever happen to a Camaro other than 2011 models?

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Old 09-02-2013, 01:11 PM   #14
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The sensor is detecting the rate at which the car rebounded from the slide, as he straightened it out... the sensor detected the immediate change in rebound so it suspects a roll-over is going to occur.


I'm not sure what fuse needs pulling, and i dont advice pulling it in the event that some ever did roll there car.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:29 PM   #15
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I am no expert but I wouldn't think that you could roll over a 5th Gen Camaro at AutoX speeds. I ran that same course the day before. I wonder if it's not a sensor issue, although you would never get GM to admit it. Other parts fail so why would it not be reasonable that the sensors could fail or be out of calibration too. There was also a 1LE that ran that some course.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:55 PM   #16
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The sensor is detecting the rate at which the car rebounded from the slide, as he straightened it out... the sensor detected the immediate change in rebound so it suspects a roll-over is going to occur.


I'm not sure what fuse needs pulling, and i dont advice pulling it in the event that some ever did roll there car.
Commonality on these incidents seems to be the correction of the slide that is triggering the sensor. I didn't hit anything or leave the road before the computer fired the side curtains, but the data shows the deployment was triggered immediately AFTER correcting with steering input. I guess if we don't correct the slide and hope the car never rolls that maybe the side curtains wont' fire??!! Not an attractive choice ....

I wouldn't pull any fuses as none of the air bags or selt belt tensioners will work if you do hit something and need them. You can install simulators for the side curtains and seat belts to keep from having to replace those from an autocross incident that OP described. You would still have to replace the air bag computer though if it did attempt to deploy the side curtain bags. However, you wouldn't have any side curtain protection if you do roll the car and I wouldn't bypass the seat belts' electronics without utilizing a safety harness.
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WOW! WTF??? Thats WAY too sensitive.
LOL Sensitive? The car is not meant for drifting. It can be done yes but it is not a natural function of the car.. the computer and sensors collect data at an exceptionally insane high rate during general daily driving.. couple this witht he car sliding and jerking all over the place.. the conditions are right for the cars computer to react to an "Out of control condition" when these conditions are met this is what happens.. Either take out the fuses or reprogram the computer..
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I've heard that this is a known problem with the CTSv Wagons - I actually know a guy who was on the Hot Rod Power Tour doing an autocross when his airbags deployed. In his case, the dealership fixed everything with no questions asked. Hopefully you have the same results.
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LOL Sensitive? The car is not meant for drifting. It can be done yes but it is not a natural function of the car.. the computer and sensors collect data at an exceptionally insane high rate during general daily driving.. couple this witht he car sliding and jerking all over the place.. the conditions are right for the cars computer to react to an "Out of control condition" when these conditions are met this is what happens.. Either take out the fuses or reprogram the computer..
Yes, sensitive. That car was NOWHERE near a rollover.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:04 PM   #20
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Yes, sensitive. That car was NOWHERE near a rollover.

Just curious.. Did you read what i wrote?
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Just curious.. Did you read what i wrote?
Yes, did you read the OP's?
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Tagged because I want to hear what the dealer does/doesn't say
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:17 PM   #23
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Yes, did you read the OP's?
I think we got some confusion going on lol.. I was responding to your comment on the video.. Assuming that was what you originally commented on?

The OP Stated in his second post Along with a video comparing what he was doing and what the guy in the vid was doing.. He said he was " doing an SCCA Solo Autocross"

So if that's the case then yes i did read what the OP said. Weather it was extreme or not.. the computer reacted based on the info it was receiving and set off the airbags etc..
The conditions were met to do exactly what happened.
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So the problem is autocross...to road course and problem solved?


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