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Old 07-10-2009, 12:56 AM   #1
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PEDDERS TAKING ORDERS FOR DROP COILS WITH OPTIONS!

Pete did a mutliple test fit of our Pedders coils only on a 6 cylinder Camaro with 20 inch wheels. the OE heights were at:
Front 690mm
Rear 700mm

We installed our front coils to a final height of 667mm. Rears are different. We know the extra weight of the Camaro and the shorter wheel base. Spring rates on these coils will be proprietary but will be in the 30-50% higher than OE rates. We know there will be a large amount of Camaros that owners will want to install larger, oversized wheels that may not have the most efficient offsets. and oversized rear wheels will add to the Camaro's aggressive understeer. These Camaro owners may elect to go with a drop that will lower the vehicles slightly to allow a larger wheel and tire. For those customers then our first level rear coil will be perfect for you. The first level rear coils will drop the rear to 675mm from 700mm OE height.

Then we will have the Camaro owners that want the looks and want to max out on handling with the our upgraded coils. This is accomplished by our second set of rear coils, that will drop the back end to 660mm. this is a 15mm drop lower than our first set of rear coils and is a engineered, specific goal. The 15mm drop will really help on the aggressive understeer that seriously plagues the Camaro and will add to the aggressive stance of the Camaro as well. Wheel fitment may become more of an important influence over the first set of coils

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Now here are the assigned part numbers for our new Camaros:
220032 Ride Height with 20" Wheels 667mm

220035 Ride Height with 20" Wheels 675mm
220033 Ride height with 20" Wheels 660mm

We now have 2 coil drop kits for your selection. The pricing is preliminary, and orders were placed last week. Here are the 2 coil only drop kits:

Camaro Drop Spring Kit 1 By Pedders
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This kit is for the enthusiast that is looking for that aggressive look over performance and may need a slightly higher rear stance due to oversized wheels and tires. This kit offers a 20-25mm drop in ride height. With higher coil ratinings and a lower vehicle stance, performance iimprovements is a real plus

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Part # Pedders Compnent Price
220032 "Camaro 2009 Front drop Coils & Ride Height with 20"" Wheels at 667mm
" $89.62
220032 "Camaro 2009 Front drop Coils & Ride Height with 20"" Wheels at 667mm
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220035 Camaro Zeta Rear Coil Ride Height with 20" Wheels 675mm $89.62
220035 Camaro Zeta Rear Coil Ride Height with 20" Wheels 675mm $89.62
Pedders Drop Coils Only Parts Total $358.48
Menu System Discount $38.49

Menu System Discount Adjusted Parts Total $319.99

Camaro Performance Drop Spring Kit 2
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This kit is for the enthusiast that is looking for that aggressive look with with a more performance oriented handling experience. The fronts are a 20mm drop and the rears are a 40mm drop. This look is a European look, and will seriously reduce the significant amount of understeer the new Camaro offers.
Part # Pedders Compnent Price

220032 "Camaro 2009 Front drop Coils & Ride Height with 20"" Wheels at 667mm
" $89.62
220032 "Camaro 2009 Front drop Coils & Ride Height with 20"" Wheels at 667mm
" $89.62
220033 Camaro 2009 Rear Drop Coils & Ride Height with 20" Wheels at 660mm $89.62
220033 Camaro 2009 Rear Drop Coils & Ride Height with 20" Wheels at 660mm $89.62
Pedders Drop Coils Only Parts Total $358.48
Menu System Discount $38.49

Menu System Discount Adjusted Parts Total $319.99



Coil orders were placed last week. You can be the first to get yours by contacting us and getting the orders advance. Our Merlin store is not yet set up for these kits. So contact any of your Pedders dealers that are sponsors here on this great forum and we can assist you. If we have a price difference, you will get the lower price. If the price is not at this level, then you will get this price until it is posted about the change.

It has not been confirmed an ETA for these coils. This information will be given out the moment we have a date.

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Old 07-10-2009, 02:20 PM   #2
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Are the Xa's off of the boat yet?
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:18 PM   #3
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Have your boy's figured the front drop running the 275's up front on the LS'3? My guess is those drops wont clear running the 275 up front, on the coil overs?

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Are you guys sure this was measured on a V6?

My V6 A6 RS is sitting at 700 in the rear and 697/698 (l/r) in the front (just measured with my euro mm. tape measure) . This is measured with the floating tang ( hook-thingy ) under the lowest part of the rim and going straight up.

I remember having read that the V8 rides lower on different stock springs and shocks. Wasn't that a 10 mm drop in the front (don't recall anything about the rear).

I am glad you are doing something for the V6 but please measure again and also verify that the driving test were also done with the V6 as the V8 has different shocks.

I assume these will be part of the SportsRyder series and are progressive rate?
The standard V6 ridecomfort is nice but it also feels not as planted as I had hoped so I am seriously considering lowering even though the roads around Houston TX are crap (in my opinion, I am from Holland).
So I have to ask, 30-50% is quite a range... (I understand you do not want to give out the exact number) but does this translate 1:1 into comfort reducement?

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Are you guys sure this was measured on a V6?

My V6 A6 RS is sitting at 700 in the rear and 697/698 (l/r) in the front (just measured with my euro mm. tape measure) . This is measured with the floating tang ( hook-thingy ) under the lowest part of the rim and going straight up.

I remember having read that the V8 rides lower on different stock springs and shocks. Wasn't that a 10 mm drop in the front (don't recall anything about the rear).

I am glad you are doing something for the V6 but please measure again and also verify that the driving test were also done with the V6 as the V8 has different shocks.

I assume these will be part of the SportsRyder series and are progressive rate?
The standard V6 ridecomfort is nice but it also feels not as planted as I had hoped so I am seriously considering lowering even though the roads around Houston TX are crap (in my opinion, I am from Holland).
So I have to ask, 30-50% is quite a range... (I understand you do not want to give out the exact number) but does this translate 1:1 into comfort reducement?
Do not be alarmed about the OE heights. Were are seeing 100 variations all the time. The specs given above was this 6cyl Camaro.

Here is an average of 3-6 cylinder Camaros that I have measured in showrooms with 20 inch wheels. All had 20 inch wheels, but they did vary in option group and LS and LT versions:

front average is 698 front
rear average is 708 rear

Now an average height on 3 SS's is the following"
front with 20s at 680mm
rears with 20s at 682mm


We are counting on the V6 suspension upgrade market to be pretty strong. The V6 will actually outhandle the SS. The base line is .3gs difference on a skid pad.


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Old 07-10-2009, 09:55 PM   #6
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Have your boy's figured the front drop running the 275's up front on the LS'3? My guess is those drops wont clear running the 275 up front, on the coil overs?
It is not the drop that is the issue, it is the offsets of the wheels that is the big deal.

Using a 275 tire in the front with the fender approx 5mm above the tread is not hard to do.


With a 10 inch wheel use an offset around 34mm
with a 9.5 inch wheel use an offset around 33mm.

As with the GTO and G8, you really need to pay attention so offsets. Sooooooo many wheel manufacturers cut corners to share platforms, thus reducing inventory and machining. So be careful

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Here are some pictures of our stock 6 cylinder Camaro with 20 inch wheels and tires running our drop coils only:

Lowered red V6 Camaro
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any pics or work on the V8s yet?

I know someone whos pretty close with one if neeeded?
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Here are some pictures of our stock 6 cylinder Camaro with 20 inch wheels and tires running our drop coils only:

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Hope this helps. Sorry for taking so long to get them!
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Thank you Mike, it was a pleasure spending so much time on the phone with you today. I learned a lot and looking forward to our new suspension from you guys.
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When are the SS coils ready?

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any pics or work on the V8s yet?

I know someone whos pretty close with one if neeeded?
the heights will be the same, whether V8 or V6. Keep in mind the V6 will outhandle the V8 thru the twisties

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When will the coilovers be ready for a 2SS. I would like to drop the car about 2" all around. Is it possible with your coils.
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Can the coilovers do a 2" drop. How much is the set for the 2SS camaro. Thanks. I need them ASAP. thanks again.
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Can the coilovers do a 2" drop. How much is the set for the 2SS camaro. Thanks. I need them ASAP. thanks again.
I am not sure you really want to go 2 inches all around. Here is a picture of a 33mm front and a 47mm rear drop. Granted the tires are 275/315. But these tires are pretty close to the diameter of your SS wheels and tires. The front wheel opening is only about 5-10mm above the tread. Depending on your tires, and wheel offsets, I would probably only recommend say a 1.5inch front and a 2 inch rear. Our coils will allow full suspension travel no matter what height you set them at. But being at 2 inches in the front may require you to be too careful over the curbs and speed bumps.



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I am not sure you really want to go 2 inches all around. Here is a picture of a 33mm front and a 47mm rear drop. Granted the tires are 275/315. But these tires are pretty close to the diameter of your SS wheels and tires. The front wheel opening is only about 5-10mm above the tread. Depending on your tires, and wheel offsets, I would probably only recommend say a 1.5inch front and a 2 inch rear. Our coils will allow full suspension travel no matter what height you set them at. But being at 2 inches in the front may require you to be too careful over the curbs and speed bumps.



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Hey mike

If I order them today, when can I get the coilovers by. I would like to the vehicle lowered within the next week or so. Possible to get them anytime soon. If you would like, you can PM me with info on how to order them. thanks
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If I order them today, when can I get the coilovers by. I would like to the vehicle lowered within the next week or so. Possible to get them anytime soon. If you would like, you can PM me with info on how to order them. thanks
You are probably out 8 weeks now with the Xas

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I just shot Deb a message about my order. I wanted to put the same question to you too. I ordered the Drop Coil kit and the Street pkg for my 2010 Camaro V6. But, now that I think of it, I wanted to know just how well will these two set-up's compliment each other? and Since I don't want to do an Extreme set-up did I get the best balance for Daily driving and the occasional "Kick Rocks B#$%h" as I crush the gas peddle.
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Now that is a bad ass looking V6!
But you saw a LS with 20s on the lot? While the overall diameter of the wheels are the same, the LS comes with 18" steelies.
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I just shot Deb a message about my order. I wanted to put the same question to you too. I ordered the Drop Coil kit and the Street pkg for my 2010 Camaro V6. But, now that I think of it, I wanted to know just how well will these two set-up's compliment each other? and Since I don't want to do an Extreme set-up did I get the best balance for Daily driving and the occasional "Kick Rocks B#$%h" as I crush the gas peddle.
Deb sent me the email to assist you since she is traveling right now and I sent the response to you already.

Doing a street 1 package will be a great complement to the coils, and will make the coils more effective, due to a lot of unneccessary movement will be removed. So you will have great balance. After doing the kit, and you want some more control, maybe sway bars for example, that can be done pretty easily. but it is great to be able to do things in steps to meet your needs.

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Deb sent me the email to assist you since she is traveling right now and I sent the response to you already.

Doing a street 1 package will be a great complement to the coils, and will make the coils more effective, due to a lot of unneccessary movement will be removed. So you will have great balance. After doing the kit, and you want some more control, maybe sway bars for example, that can be done pretty easily. but it is great to be able to do things in steps to meet your needs.

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Mike,
I tried to touch base but been in and out.

Looks like we will be running 22s on our car. 22x11 in the rear. Do you see any rubbing issues with the 2 inch rear coil drop?

Lastly, I need to know your recommended tire sizes. I some people running a 35 Series up front and a 30 Series in the back. I would prefer to keep it 30 series all the way around but will do whatever you tell me on tires.
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Deb sent me the email to assist you since she is traveling right now and I sent the response to you already.

Doing a street 1 package will be a great complement to the coils, and will make the coils more effective, due to a lot of unneccessary movement will be removed. So you will have great balance. After doing the kit, and you want some more control, maybe sway bars for example, that can be done pretty easily. but it is great to be able to do things in steps to meet your needs.

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Got your message and thanks, I'm very happy with what I ordered. Just have to keep from going crazy till my ride comes in to the dealer now. Also, it looked like the Camaro Sport pkg comes with a sway bar. Sorry, I didn't order the Camaro Street kit, said the wrong one.
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Deb sent me the email to assist you since she is traveling right now and I sent the response to you already.

Doing a street 1 package will be a great complement to the coils, and will make the coils more effective, due to a lot of unneccessary movement will be removed. So you will have great balance. After doing the kit, and you want some more control, maybe sway bars for example, that can be done pretty easily. but it is great to be able to do things in steps to meet your needs.

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Tire size and wheel offset is what causes rub issues, and not the drop. You should be just fine doing 275z on all 4 corners. We are currently working with Forgeline to come up with the proper offsets to get 295s on all 4 corners. Not sure how long this will take

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