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Old 09-08-2013, 09:27 PM   #15
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Maybe it was because the older pumps couldnt handle straight meth? I honestly dont know. It seems everything I have read says 100% meth makes the most power. You arent cooling in the combustion chamber you are cooling the intake charge. Where is a scientist or chemist when you need one?
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Yes, 100% meth for max power. 50/50 for optimum power/cooling.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:28 PM   #16
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I agree. I was told the water burns of too fast and the methanol is more important.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:31 PM   #17
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I agree. I was told the water burns of too fast and the methanol is more important.
How are you burning water?

The water evaporates then cools.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:37 PM   #18
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Evaporates yes...
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:41 PM   #19
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Evaporates yes...
The water (evaporates) vapor cools

The methanol (burns) making power.

The mixture comes down to what you want more of.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:47 PM   #20
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Are you running stock bottom end?
Yes stock bottom end
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:48 PM   #21
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That's incorrect. If you are looking for cooling you want it at least 50/50. It's the water that cools not the methanol.
Well my tuner recommended this as well as Julio from Alky. Is my tuner wrong?
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:52 PM   #22
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The water (evaporates) vapor cools

The methanol (burns) making power.

The mixture comes down to what you want more of.
I think that is very will put and most likely the answer to the question ,, the ratio should be determine on what you desire, cooling or more power.
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didnt read all of it yet but seems to support Jamie for pure cooling purposes.
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Well my tuner recommended this as well as Julio from Alky. Is my tuner wrong?
Matt's not wrong. You will get minimal cooling affect with straight meth inject.

You will NOT get max cooling without water being injected as well.

Ask yourself "why do people use a water/meth mix if the water portion is pointless"?

If you read the articles linked above you'll get some great info and be able to decide for yourself what is best for you.
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The cooling effect of meth is greater than water. People put water in it to stabilize it, to dilute it, or to lower out of control combustion temps. It is much less corrosive when some water is mixed in and that can be a big deal with some pumps and fittings. And it evaporates less with some water mixed in.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:57 PM   #25
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100% meth is a great saftey net. Yes, it will aid a little in cooling but if you are looking for the full benefit it needs to be near a 50/50 mix.
Aid a little??? My iat's on the dyno went from 90degrees to 47degrees w/ 100% meth alky control kit...
Seems more than a little to me.. JMO
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Aid a little??? My iat's on the dyno went from 90degrees to 47degrees w/ 100% meth alky control kit...
Seems more than a little to me.. JMO
Just imagine of you had a water/meth mix.
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Matt's not wrong. You will get minimal cooling affect with straight meth inject.

You will NOT get max cooling without water being injected as well.

Ask yourself "why do people use a water/meth mix if the water portion is pointless"?

If you read the articles linked above you'll get some great info and be able to decide for yourself what is best for you.
Well ill let my tuner decide or chime in

I'm hardly spraying meth. When I press the purge I don't see changes in AFR till after 20-30 seconds. If its not for cooling and not for power then idk. I thought people wouldn't run 100% meth because the system wouldn't handle it
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:04 PM   #28
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I'd like to know as well. Meth will be part of my build plans here shortly after I add some more upgrades.

Matt@FSP has a kit I'm going with, not sure what we plan on using.
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