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Old 09-09-2013, 11:22 PM   #1
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November 2013 Road and Track magazine: ZL1 vs GT 500

It's not out yet. October issue just hit the newstands. You'll have to wait.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:06 PM   #2
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Almost time for the issue to hit the streets.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:18 PM   #3
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I'll save you the time. It's going to say the Ford is a fine car but the ZL1 is on another level. Just a better all around sports car and not just a muscle car.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:24 PM   #4
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Why would they keep beating that dead horse. What is left to say?
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:43 PM   #5
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Why would they keep beating that dead horse. What is left to say?
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:01 PM   #6
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:05 PM   #7
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:09 PM   #8
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'dead horse'...baaaaahaaaahaaaa!

Because you see...a horse is also a pony...and a pony...well you get it!
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:09 PM   #9
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what changed that is going to make a difference between 2012 vs 2013?

maybe I am out of the loop but I am not aware of anyting that would impact perfromance.

the GT500 is going to win the drag race, the ZL1 will be a more balanced drive people will banter back and forth about anyting they say ha ha.
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:16 PM   #10
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Dead horse. I like that.

Nonetheless it keeps generating interest in our cars.

No problem making a front cover with me. If it makes front cover.
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:10 PM   #11
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They will both be 2014 models, no? Mechanically the cars are unchanged, but since the Camaro has been refreshened there may be something there to play with. Maybe the mustang has better brakes and wider tires for 2014, which were the main reasons it was bested by the Chevy.
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:22 PM   #12
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It is like this, stock the GT500 is a drag queen (king), but doing what most people do, the ZL1 is gonna win out. I had a 2012 mustang 5.0 and yeah it would take my 1LE in a drag race. But say we go hit the mountain roads, even the boss 302 gets it's A$$ whipped. The Camaro with the independent rear suspension rides so much better as a DD then the mustang could even dream of. But you know what all the stang boys will say, we got more POWA but if you can't get it to the ground all that POWA aint worth .02$
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:45 AM   #13
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Very few people buy a camaro or mustang cause one is better than the other. 9 out of 10 buy one or the other cause that's the brand their loyal too. IMO mornings wrong with that.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:46 AM   #14
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Meant nothing. Lol
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:02 AM   #15
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The bottom line is that you should enjoy this era of performance. We can buy 600 hp cars with WARRANTY!!!

Try that 15 years ago.

These are the golden days right here.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:10 AM   #16
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The bottom line is that you should enjoy this era of performance. We can buy 600 hp cars with WARRANTY!!!

Try that 15 years ago.

These are the golden days right here.
I agree with all above,but do we need to keep comparing the same two cars every other month?

If one of them had some type of performance upgrade then I could see hashing it out again. It would seem to me that this is showing that there isn't really anything to talk about in the car world right now, and they need filler material until the next big thing hits.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:35 AM   #17
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Very few people buy a camaro or mustang cause one is better than the other. 9 out of 10 buy one or the other cause that's the brand their loyal too. IMO mornings wrong with that.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:18 AM   #18
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The bottom line is that you should enjoy this era of performance. We can buy 600 hp cars with WARRANTY!!!

Try that 15 years ago.

These are the golden days right here.
Not even 15 but 5 years ago. We are definitly watching history unfold. All of the big three are producing great cars. I am a little bias about Chevrolet!
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:17 AM   #19
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Enjoy this special time. IMO it will not last. The GM lsa's will be trendsetters for all of the domestic performance models to follow.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:39 PM   #20
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:54 PM   #21
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Well I have an older edition of Car and Driver where the ZL1 Vert was chosen against the M6 vert ... but that also concentrated heavily on price

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:18 PM   #22
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:21 PM   #23
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:19 AM   #25
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Well I have an older edition of Car and Driver where the ZL1 Vert was chosen against the M6 vert ... but that also concentrated heavily on price

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
It also took into account curbside appeal which the Camaro has in spades over any BMW.
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