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Old 09-27-2013, 10:18 AM   #18
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The bottom line is that you should enjoy this era of performance. We can buy 600 hp cars with WARRANTY!!!

Try that 15 years ago.

These are the golden days right here.
Not even 15 but 5 years ago. We are definitly watching history unfold. All of the big three are producing great cars. I am a little bias about Chevrolet!
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:17 AM   #19
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Enjoy this special time. IMO it will not last. The GM lsa's will be trendsetters for all of the domestic performance models to follow.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:39 PM   #20
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:54 PM   #21
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Well I have an older edition of Car and Driver where the ZL1 Vert was chosen against the M6 vert ... but that also concentrated heavily on price

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:18 PM   #22
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:21 PM   #23
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I hope for the dorfs sake there is no turning involved.
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:22 PM   #24
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:19 AM   #25
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Well I have an older edition of Car and Driver where the ZL1 Vert was chosen against the M6 vert ... but that also concentrated heavily on price

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
It also took into account curbside appeal which the Camaro has in spades over any BMW.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:33 AM   #26
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If this was 1987 I bet all you guys would be ripping the GN/GNX since it didn't handle like a Corvette...

The current batch of Camaro guys sound like the Mustang guys from 98-02 when the LS1 was killing the 4.6...

Bottom line is this is the best time to be a car guy....
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:23 AM   #27
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The results are in. ZL1 wins.
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:31 AM   #28
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The results are in. ZL1 wins.
Again?
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:41 AM   #29
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Again?
GT 500 brakes suck once again on the track. ZL1 could brake deeper into turns before turn in.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:01 AM   #30
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When the magazine ads first came out most of us didn't have our cars yet and no one had seen them on the streets. Now that production has been rolling, the article will mean more to many IMO.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:01 AM   #31
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GT 500 brakes suck once again on the track. ZL1 could brake deeper into turns before turn in.

The axle doesn't help either.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:28 AM   #32
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Not sure why they went away from IRS. Ford had it in 03/04 in the Cobra.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:03 PM   #33
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Not sure why they went away from IRS. Ford had it in 03/04 in the Cobra.
It was sloppy, and exceptionally prone to breaking where it was used most...from a launch.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:43 PM   #34
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It was sloppy, and exceptionally prone to breaking where it was used most...from a launch.
At least Ford recognized this and went back to SRA. Make it stronger for where the car is going to spend most of it's time. I wouldn't fault them for that. I think they put the money where they thought it would be most beneficial for their customers at the time. Kudos.
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