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Old 09-14-2013, 06:39 PM   #1
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2013 2SS/RS AGP TT Install by CarbConn

Carbconn who?! I just had to have fun with the title - more than 1,000 miles from the the infamous speed shops like ADM, FSP, Jannetty, etc. My builder is a great guy named Alex at Carbconn in Totem Lake, WA here in the NorthWest.

Kit is the standard (56mm) AGP TT base kit with a Livernois Motorsports L92 Stage 2C cam and AEM Tru-Boost Electronic Boost Controller. Inside we will have the EBC and an AEM Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge mounted in an A-pillar 2-gauge pod from Autometer.

Target is 650RWHP, which was range-selected based on:
- Based on other threads and great feedback from other experienced folks out there (special thanks Unreal), this is the top-end for my (for-now) stock driveline.
- Daily Drive car with lap time at the local tracks (Ridge and Pacific) - e.g. not a 1/4 mile car.

Deferring the clutch (Alex feedback - burn this one out first, it is brand new!), but will likely go for the twin-disk street slayer when it is time.

Here are the first round of pictures with the engine dropped. Pretty cool to see how well engineered this engine bay is. The Carbconn guys said only the C5 Camaro designers seem to "get it" by putting the entire wiring harness intact with the drop - all other cars apparently require a tedious process for every bit of wiring and sensor.

In case you are wondering about what that box is hanging just behind the front fender post - it is the control module for the NightOWL LED kit - look it up, it rocks.

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Old 09-14-2013, 09:25 PM   #2
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Nice and I cant stop looking at all those carbs on the shelves over there.
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Your welcome, I guess. I'm just glad people are seeing the performance value and fun of turbos.

You will love it. I'll have to make Kevin buy me a polar pop for helping sell a kit.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:41 PM   #4
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:31 PM   #5
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Your welcome, I guess. I'm just glad people are seeing the performance value and fun of turbos.

You will love it. I'll have to make Kevin buy me a polar pop for helping sell a kit.
Did anything ever come out of the rumor that AGP was going to provide TT badges?
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:24 PM   #6
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Did anything ever come out of the rumor that AGP was going to provide TT badges?
Since I don't work there I don't want to say anything, but I did see some on Cortneys desk.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:02 AM   #7
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Cam and Springs are in, Turbos are hung, here is a picture of some in-progress loose fittings as the work back from the turbos and wastegate.

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While it was off its proverbial feet, I grabbed the calipers for painting - taking them back to be remounted this weekend.
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:21 AM   #8
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That car is now well hung.
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:06 PM   #9
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That car is now well hung.
Hah! Good one.
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That car is now well hung.
That is a good one!
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Since I don't work there I don't want to say anything, but I did see some on Cortneys desk.
We don't need no stinkin badges.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:50 PM   #12
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HarryNW, do they have a roundabout time of being finished? I would like to take a look at your setup once finished as I might be going that direction and would love to see it in person.
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HarryNW, do they have a roundabout time of being finished? I would like to take a look at your setup once finished as I might be going that direction and would love to see it in person.
Call up Alex at Carbconn and talk to him about your goals and budget. Really great guy with many, many years of real world experience. See if you can check out Harry's car while it's there.
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I have actually been to Carbconn before, but something happenned to someone in our local group that turned me off to that shop, so I went with Tom Wong in Vancouver. Tom is great as he has done my headers and my cam along with the tuning to go with it. I personally don't have anything against Carbconn, I just went with Tom already. I have a thing about sticking with someone that does a good job for me. The only reason I would stop going to Tom is if something bad ever happened that was caused by his work. I really wated to see how it drives and sounds more than anything else.
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I have actually been to Carbconn before, but something happenned to someone in our local group that turned me off to that shop, so I went with Tom Wong in Vancouver. Tom is great as he has done my headers and my cam along with the tuning to go with it. I personally don't have anything against Carbconn, I just went with Tom already. I have a thing about sticking with someone that does a good job for me. The only reason I would stop going to Tom is if something bad ever happened that was caused by his work. I really wated to see how it drives and sounds more than anything else.

Just based on reputation alone I can assure you Tom Wong would meet our qualifications to become a dealer. Lucas English is also on the short list for extremely capable shops in WA.
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Great to know. Thanks for the help, AGP!

Harry, best of luck on the install and I hope to see that beast on the streets real soon.

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Tom could call up and get you a great deal. Just let him know.
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HarryNW, do they have a roundabout time of being finished? I would like to take a look at your setup once finished as I might be going that direction and would love to see it in person.
Hoping Tues/Weds of next week at the latest. Will post here as soon as it is completed. I took the opportunity with it jacked up to remove and take home the Brembo calipers for painting. Took them back Friday. They were working out the final oil pump location as it did not fit in the prescribed location due to the power steering unit, but Ed already worked out a solution. Otherwise, most of the gear was hung Friday. Will see...

Curious what you ran into with Alex - PM me. He and Ed have been great so far, and their clientele is pretty impressive - a lot of professional racers seem to like taking their cars there.
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Update from Alex and Ed - the car is on its feet again, but there was an issue with the AGP Kit's exhaust pipes being too short!? So they had to take it up to the muffler shop and have them mate the exhaust together. Beyond that, the only thing left is the AEM Boost Controller and Dyno (and installing the EBC and Wideband gauges in the A-pillar).
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:13 PM   #20
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OK, I pick up the car first thing in the morning tomorrow. Alex reports some final touch-ups required in the tuning. Sounds like the BAP really forces a rich mix at 3000+ RPM, and he is trying to tune in some better balance. Better than running lean, but feels he can do better. Baseline wastegate was 6.5 psi. Currently pulling 608 RWHP at 7psi.

Otherwise, Alex said he was loving the car and did not want to give it back after smoking the tires at speed in 3rd gear yesterday. Feels like Xmas Eve...

So far, the tally on "unexpected glitches on the kit install" include:

- Exhaust linkage shortage - required a custom fab extension
- Relocation of the Oil pump - 2013 Power Steering module was relocated to kit's intended location
- Taking longer to tune than expected

Pictures and video tomorrow!
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Strange on the exhaust piece since they are all done up on a jig and the 10+ other kits had no issues. The pipe butts up to the x-pipe and you use the factory band clamp thing. It isn't a slip fit so if they thought it was they might have though it was too short. The factory band just slides over each pipe and goes on fine. Either way, strange. The PS pump stuff has been resolved. All the other kits have been 2010-2012s without the EPS so that was a snag but all fixed.

Turn it up to 9-10psi and make 700+
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:25 PM   #22
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I added the AEM Tru-boost EBC and had Alex target 650 range, so I am guessing he will bring it up to 8 or so to make 650. Will run it there for a while. Interesting about the exhaust - will pass it along. The PS glitch was not a problem, just had to identify an appropriate alternate location - no hard fittings there, so flexible on location.
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You will love it. 650rwhp and a ton of torque is one hell of a fun street car.
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Sorry about the exhaust issue. I asked our welder and he said he was aware of an issue that could have caused the driver side pipe to be about a inch too short. He thought he caught and fixed them but clearly missed one. Not an issue anymore. We've shipped several since that bolted right on. PM me how much it cost to fix and we'll cover it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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