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Old 09-15-2013, 05:13 PM   #26
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:18 PM   #27
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You run more boost...you spray meth for more octane...


Do you even know how meth works? Jesus christ my IQ is falling just talking to you.
And then when you have hiccup with the meth system you can kiss that engine could by.

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Admitting your wrong is the first step in recovery. Are you ready to take that? Or are you still thinking your are the smartest man walking the face if this earth. I hope you don't tune cars for a living.
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I've been using meth on all my cars for years now with not 1 problem.

Of course if you go cheap end and buy the basic snow performance kit and your pump craps out you're going to have a problem. But if you buy the good meth kits you'll never see that happen.

Meth is God's gift for people who don't have access to good fuel and/or E85. It's cooling effects are also pretty ba. My spray is a much better coolant but who sprays all day .
So you haven't add any meth problems so that must mean every meth system ever made will function perfectly forever....... Wow.
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Admitting your wrong is the first step in recovery. Are you ready to take that? Or are you still thinking your are the smartest man walking the face if this earth. I hope you don't tune cars for a living.
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BTW, my car was built also.... I just payed someone else to do it!
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Hey, at least you didn't buy an HPE car or the like!
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BTW, my car was built also.... I just payed someone else to do it!
Twice, you forgot to mention you had it built twice. Just reminding you.
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Twice, you forgot to mention you had it built twice. Just reminding you.
It's only money.... I can just go get some more.
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It's only money.... I can just go get some more.
Then I think you should send some my way.
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Then I think you should send some my way.
Get in line like everyone else!! I'm just going to spoil the shit out of my son. Like ridiculously. That is, if he ever decides he wants to be born.
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No. Typically, the first child is late. Happened with both my first children.
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No. Typically, the first child is late. Happened with both my first children.

7 days left and counting....
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7 days hopefully, then hours of labor of which you will gladly pay for, and then days in the hospital of which you will probably be sleeping.
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And then when you have hiccup with the meth system you can kiss that engine could by.

It's ok for you to learn something here. We welcome trolls.
Well I've had my "meth" car up and running with spray and boost.

Didn't yours blow up?

I can understand you don't like meth but it's not a "bad" system at all. People who say its bad either hear its bad or have gone on the cheap side. I can name you about 15 other cars in my area who have been running meth for 2+ years with no problem. Same pump and all.

Nitrous blows cars up does that mean its bad? It has components that can fail and cause catastrophic engine failure... Does that mean spray is bad?
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Admitting your wrong is the first step in recovery. Are you ready to take that? Or are you still thinking your are the smartest man walking the face if this earth. I hope you don't tune cars for a living.
When did I say I'm the smartest man? I'm saying HP has nothing to do with an engine limit. It's not like if you hit 1400hp omg the engine is going to die. There's multiple factors included and saying boost doesn't affect the engine limit is plain wrong and dumb.

Now you and the other guy are going to tell me octane rating has nothing to do with an engine limit either... lol.
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Well I've had my "meth" car up and running with spray and boost.

Didn't yours blow up?

I can understand you don't like meth but it's not a "bad" system at all. People who say its bad either hear its bad or have gone on the cheap side. I can name you about 15 other cars in my area who have been running meth for 2+ years with no problem. Same pump and all.

Nitrous blows cars up does that mean its bad? It has components that can fail and cause catastrophic engine failure... Does that mean spray is bad?
I think meth is good. We put it back on out Grand National.

It works, no argument there.

Here's the issue:

When you are relying on meth for fuel, usually because the fuel system isn't adequate, you are walking a thin line. The slightest hiccup and you're done. Why gamble. Build the problem fuel system then add meth. That way if it fails you don't loose an engine. Just because it works in 100 cars doesn't mean it's fail proof. It fails all the time. Again, just bc you know a small percentage of people with it doesn't me it doesn't break.

The moral of the story is dont use meth as the fueling.
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When did I say I'm the smartest man? I'm saying HP has nothing to do with an engine limit. It's not like if you hit 1400hp omg the engine is going to die. There's multiple factors included and saying boost doesn't affect the engine limit is plain wrong and dumb.

Now you and the other guy are going to tell me octane rating has nothing to do with an engine limit either... lol.
Who said anything about octane. Please stay on the topic. Who said boost doesn't affect the engine limit? Not me. If that was the care people would be making 20 psi all day long on a stock ls3. That's hardly the case.


One topic at a time. Right now it's methanol.
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Who said anything about octane. Please stay on the topic. Who said boost doesn't affect the engine limit? Not me. If that was the care people would be making 20 psi all day long on a stock ls3. That's hardly the case.


One topic at a time. Right now it's methanol.

This whole discussion was about engine limits with the other genius kid who said boost doesn't affect engine limits.
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It's not even about boost that matter to a motor, it's dynamic compression, cylinder pressure. Anything over 650whp is on borrowed time.
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I'll simplify this for you, dynamic compression=horsepower. Engines don't give adamn about boost, your motor that makes 650hp at 11psi is no safer than a motor making 650 with 17psi, because the total cylinder pressure is the SAME.

Horsepower on a dyno doesn't mean jack, they are a tuning tool and nothing else. Track times are the only thing that matters. If you want to build a dyno queen go for it, meth works well for that, it's a cheap way to make more power.

This was my whole arguement in this thread, then you chimed this to my facepalm to 2ss4th...

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Admitting your wrong is the first step in recovery. Are you ready to take that? Or are you still thinking your are the smartest man walking the face if this earth. I hope you don't tune cars for a living.

I was never really arguing about meth... I just don't think it's "cheap" or used for "dyno queens..."

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I've seen expensive meth kits fail. I don't cut corners on my cars, so I don't need crutches like meth to keep it all together.
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If you want to build a dyno queen go for it, meth works well for that, it's a cheap way to make more power.


Hope that clears things up for you.
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There's no magical boost number that will blow an engine, very few understand this, because very few of us build engines. Dynamic compression blows motors up, is boost part of that equation? Yes, but a small part of it. This is because a 14:1 CR motor running 5psi of boost is more likely to fail than a 9:1 CR motor running 5psi of boost. This is why boost by itself doesn't matter.

The other issue with trying to argue that boost is the way to measure failure rate is this, it measures restriction. So, a motor with ported heads, a ported manifold, larger primary headers, etc. will naturally result in lower boost levels, but will make more power. This is why I have to spin my blower faster to make the same amount of boost as Jamie, my motor's resistance to airflow is less. In the same way that Jamie and I have very different power bands and horsepower figures, but the same amount of boost.

Until you understand this, and I doubt you will, you shouldn't tell someone what is safe for a motor and what isn't.
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