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Old 09-19-2013, 02:41 PM   #26
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All being equal the ls3 m6 has an advantage in top end over the 6.1. I have never had a 6.1 pull me after I got by, and I have raced allot of them! All being equal the 5.0 has an advantage over the SS, that just the way it is, I admit it. You should too lol
Where are you getting the information that the Coyote has an advantage over the SS? And I mean official information. Not some kid who claims his car is stock and makes a Youtube video.
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:51 PM   #27
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Where are you getting the information that the Coyote has an advantage over the SS? And I mean official information. Not some kid who claims his car is stock and makes a Youtube video.
I would like to see this info too. I have raced a handful of coyotes and I've beaten every single one.


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Old 09-19-2013, 02:51 PM   #28
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Where are you getting the information that the Coyote has an advantage over the SS? And I mean official information. Not some kid who claims his car is stock and makes a Youtube video.
They put down about the same power.

The mustang is ~250 lbs lighter.

All the compiled 1/4 mile times and trap speeds over the past few years from both magazines and private owners.

The mustang is a couple ticks faster stock for stock and mod for mod.
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:51 PM   #29
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Not official, just what I see. From a roll my money is still on a ls3 over the 5.0 but the track, the 5.0s seem to just avg a little better times due to being solid axle car.
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:21 PM   #30
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:40 PM   #31
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All being equal the ls3 m6 has an advantage in top end over the 6.1. I have never had a 6.1 pull me after I got by, and I have raced allot of them! All being equal the 5.0 has an advantage over the SS, that just the way it is, I admit it. You should too lol
The 5.0 stock imo doesn't have the advantage. Drovemore than one, raced several. My friend went from srt to ss and even he admitted its stock is no faster than his 6.1....next time we track it I'll post videos...nevermind I still hear all the bs excuses.
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:50 PM   #32
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if you lose to the RT trade in your SS for a chevy volt.
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:46 PM   #33
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You just want to see the video...
I agree! He's full of shit! Vidz please
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Only BS I'm seeing is all that nonsense you just typed. Now the 6.1 is a 5.0 mustang killer.
Where did I say the 6.1 is a mustang killer???? Of course its not... the stock ones here run high 12's to low 13's which on par for a ss a well... the l99 here run mid 13's so where is the advantage?
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They put down about the same power.

The mustang is ~250 lbs lighter.

All the compiled 1/4 mile times and trap speeds over the past few years from both magazines and private owners.

The mustang is a couple ticks faster stock for stock and mod for mod.
From magazines I have seen the Coyote go as fast as a 13.0. And that was with the 3.73 gear option. I have seen the LS3 SS go a 13.0 as well. The L99 SS has posted a 13.1. Those are the fastest reported times I have seen.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:52 PM   #36
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From magazines I have seen the Coyote go as fast as a 13.0. And that was with the 3.73 gear option. I have seen the LS3 SS go a 13.0 as well. The L99 SS has posted a 13.1. Those are the fastest reported times I have seen.

Motor trend has went as fast as 12.7 with the 5.0.

Private owners have went as fast as 12.2 or 12.3 bone stock with the mustang last time I checked.

Private owners have went as fast as 12.5 with the camaro bone stock.

The 5.0 also has higher reported trap speeds stock as high as 115 or so. 113 is the fastest I have seen for the camaro.

Same power and 2-300 lbs difference in weight. As good or better gearing depending on options. Better traction with the solid axle. Less rotating mass with smaller rims. The mustang is faster no matter which way you slice it. Accept it and get over it.
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Motor trend has went as fast as 12.7 with the 5.0.

Private owners have went as fast as 12.2 or 12.3 bone stock with the mustang last time I checked.

Private owners have went as fast as 12.5 with the camaro bone stock.

The 5.0 also has higher reported trap speeds stock as high as 115 or so. 113 is the fastest I have seen for the camaro.

Same power and 2-300 lbs difference in weight. As good or better gearing depending on options. Better traction with the solid axle. Less rotating mass with smaller rims. The mustang is faster no matter which way you slice it. Accept it and get over it.
I beg to differ about the mustang being faster... I've raced one on the highway from a 3rd gear Pull all the way up top and partial 4th. Mid way thru 4th I shut down. I already had a car and a half on him and I have him the jump and reeled him in easily. Gearing makes a big deal. Being as I have the 3:91's.


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I've beat a few of them before I added CAI, headers and tune. A friend in his 2012 auto srt8 with cai and cutouts could beat me before my mods. I can take him now. Those cars are too heavy.
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Motor trend has went as fast as 12.7 with the 5.0.

Private owners have went as fast as 12.2 or 12.3 bone stock with the mustang last time I checked.

Private owners have went as fast as 12.5 with the camaro bone stock.

The 5.0 also has higher reported trap speeds stock as high as 115 or so. 113 is the fastest I have seen for the camaro.

Same power and 2-300 lbs difference in weight. As good or better gearing depending on options. Better traction with the solid axle. Less rotating mass with smaller rims. The mustang is faster no matter which way you slice it. Accept it and get over it.
Maybe the Boss...but def not the Coyote. I would like to see your sources. And I will have to change my previous statement about the Stang running 13.0...I saw that the Coyote has ran a 12.9.

And BTW, I do not count what some person claims to run in the quarter mile as official. I count official as stock out the door off the showroom floor with OEM tires, OEM recommended tire pressure, nothing removed from the vehicle, and no alterations or mods whatsoever. We all know that these people out here these days alter their cars and call it stock all the time. But I seriously doubt a bone stock coyote is running a mid 12.
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Most cars out there run 12-13s. If you own a SS, R/T or a 5.0 your not all that faster than each other. Anyone's race. As soon as either you lose you'll just say its due to the weather or some crap and make up excuses as to why you lost.
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Maybe the Boss...but def not the Coyote. I would like to see your sources. And I will have to change my previous statement about the Stang running 13.0...I saw that the Coyote has ran a 12.9.

And BTW, I do not count what some person claims to run in the quarter mile as official. I count official as stock out the door off the showroom floor with OEM tires, OEM recommended tire pressure, nothing removed from the vehicle, and no alterations or mods whatsoever. We all know that these people out here these days alter their cars and call it stock all the time. But I seriously doubt a bone stock coyote is running a mid 12.
Dude its old news.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

The camaro ran a 13.1 and the mustang a 12.7. Their is even a video of it you try and find it.

The test was even done on the same day same place. Not that this test is the final word...but you asked for a source.

Like I said...just accept it and move on. This is a very old topic and I find it funny their are still this many people in denial/trying to argue the laws of physics.

and here is a 12.8 for you as well

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html

and keep in mind...the 2013 gt has 8 more hp than the 2011 that these tests represent.

I am ashamed that I even got into this argument...it is so pointless and overdone on this site.

Believe what you want man...it wont make your car any faster
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Dude its old news.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

The camaro ran a 13.1 and the mustang a 12.7. Their is even a video of it you try and find it.

The test was even done on the same day same place. Not that this test is the final word...but you asked for a source.

Like I said...just accept it and move on. This is a very old topic and I find it funny their are still this many people in denial/trying to argue the laws of physics.

and here is a 12.8 for you as well

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html

and keep in mind...the 2013 gt has 8 more hp than the 2011 that these tests represent.

I am ashamed that I even got into this argument...it is so pointless and overdone on this site.

Believe what you want man...it wont make your car any faster
The fact that a 2012 300 SRT has faster 0-60 times than the Challenger and Camaro and better 0-60 times is truly amazing. Literally right behind the Mustang damn near. Be happy y'all own what y'all own. The next person has a faster car than you so make sure YOU enjoy it.
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Dude its old news.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

The camaro ran a 13.1 and the mustang a 12.7. Their is even a video of it you try and find it.

The test was even done on the same day same place. Not that this test is the final word...but you asked for a source.

Like I said...just accept it and move on. This is a very old topic and I find it funny their are still this many people in denial/trying to argue the laws of physics.

and here is a 12.8 for you as well

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html

and keep in mind...the 2013 gt has 8 more hp than the 2011 that these tests represent.

I am ashamed that I even got into this argument...it is so pointless and overdone on this site.

Believe what you want man...it wont make your car any faster
Well your links are freezing up my computer. So I will retain my doubts until someone else can view the links and confirm.
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Bluebeastsrt........Internet glory runs happen in atco with a crazy - 2700 da... I belive it was a 12.5 or 12.6 on a bone stock 6.1. I have never raced on a negative da here in florida.. is it really that hard for you to believe my stock averages were 13.0-13.3, added a tune, cai, exhaust and ran 12.7 best with averages 12.8-12.9... really that is so far fetched? .. this is my 2nd srt, so acoording to you I have factory freaks? Lol
Last time I posted a video of my stock 6.1 and srt8techs 392 all the excuses of hidden mods came out....I'm not going to go back and forth will you cherry picking vids....I'm going off owning 2 of the cars and being around the platform since 2009...
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My friend has an srt8 charger 2006 with intake/programmer/cat deletes and he just bought a 2012 6 speed 5.0 manual.... He owns both but had a driver mod in his new 5.0, needless to say the srt8 pulled a car on the airstrip.

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LOL cherry picked videos. All I asked you to do is find one cherry picked video of your own. Funny but I added a tune, CAI and headers to the L99 and ran a best of 12.8@109 so far. Incredibly similar to your best. So I'd say the 6.1 is a hell of a lot closer to a L99 Camaro than an LS3 Camaro or 5.0 Mustang. I have no problem admitting both of those out run me stock for stock. Try just admitting it. You can't beat em all in your "Factory Freak" LOL


Here you go.... cherry pick bone stock from 2005. do you need more?

What was the da when you ran 12.8? Tunes and bolt on wake up your cars better than the 6.1
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2005 was the first year. There was no tunes or aftermarket parts yet. ..My friend has an ls3 ss.... we will compare times same day, track and da.... Like I said the da was - 2700 on that vid in atco...
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So... A buddy of mine has been running his mouth a lot lately about how he'll smoke me.. Blah blah blah. From his mouth alone. He has a cai netted him (20-25hp) and straight pipes and that netted him (5-10hp) no dyno or tune to back up these outrageous claims... Yet these R/T's are only rated at 372 @flywheel. He says supposedly he's running neck and neck with my numbers and can drag my ass..! My current mods are intake, x-pipe mid fabricated all the way back to the 40's original flows, with resonator delete ..Have not dyno'd since mods. Dyno numbers stock were 360whp & 355wtq on a very heat soaked motor. Temps were 100+. Also on a mustang dyno. Who wins?


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Nice thread Op. A buddy of mine has a 2012 Challenger SRT rated at 470 hp at the flywheel. He saw my Camaro once and ended up bringing his car over for me to drive. So we struck out in his car first, and it has a decent pull, but when we pulled mine out and he nailed it the first time I thought he was going to chit his pants. It was like night and day the difference in power. Granted I am running a supercharger and throwing 625 hp to the wheels, but even in the looks category which would you choose ?? Just saying . . .

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Nice thread Op. A buddy of mine has a 2012 Challenger SRT rated at 470 hp at the flywheel. He saw my Camaro once and ended up bringing his car over for me to drive. So we struck out in his car first, and it has a decent pull, but when we pulled mine out and he nailed it the first time I thought he was going to chit his pants. It was like night and day the difference in power. Granted I am running a supercharger and throwing 625 hp to the wheels, but even in the looks category which would you choose ?? Just saying . . .

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