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Old 10-04-2013, 12:11 AM   #51
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My wife practicaly cried once she saw the first 10k paypal exchange. Then two cam swaps, 3 sets of wheels, and a crap load of other wasted funds she got over it.

The guilt trips come and go
Hmmmm ... that sound familiar!

Trouble is ... they're OK with the first little things like the intake or shifter, because they go and buy themselves some shoes and justify it with "but you bought things for your car." It's too late now ... you've had your first hit and you're addicted.

Then comes the blower ... they grin and bare it ... a bit. Then you don't get the power you want ... so you get the tune ... then the full exhaust.

Then come the problems. Oil leak ... so you add catch cans. First the cheap ones you sneak through eBay ... but they don't work. So then you bite the bullet and go for a good one. Oh ... and a breather cap.

Then the surging starts ... so you try and resolve it yourself. Plugs, leads, more plugs, O2 sensors, MAF. Still not fixed.

So you throw more at a better tune with someone who knows what they're doing this time ... you find out you need injectors, then the fuel pump.

Then you think ... I'd better get a leak down test ... broken ringlands. Crap!

So you break the bad news to the wife. You can't tell her what it's REALLY going to be ... so you pluck a number out of thin air "$5k ... 7 tops".

Then the rebuild starts ... pistons, rings, rods, bolts + studs, cam, lifters, valve springs, push rods, timing set, heads, gaskets, plugs, labor. Better put in an HV oil pump for insurance. May as well pulley down ... so you'll need a 8 rib pulley kit. Will need a bigger fuel pump then ... may as well do the rear bushes while the subframe is out .. oh and you'll need a better clutch.

So the bills start rolling in ... $8k here, $7.5k there, another $1k over there, then another $1400 there ... and so on.

NOW you here the words "If you spend another cent on that F***** car, I'm divorcing you".

At which point you should be thinking ... No ... I can't lose my wife and kids" ... but instead the delusional voice in your head says "Don't let her do that ... she'll make you sell the car so she can get half."

We really are a sick bunch of a-holes aren't we

But it is SOOOO worth it man! DO IT ... One day you'll thank me from your bachelor pad with its impressive man cave!
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:45 AM   #52
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Mine is at 1040RWHP with pump gas. My wife drives it to grocery store.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:00 AM   #53
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Looks like you said in the beginning.....you got many different opinions. I drive mine 50/50....50% easy driving and 50% of the time out is hard driving and track time. I am having traction issues at my RWHP so if I add more it would be usless unless I start dumping $$$ into the rear end set-up.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:56 PM   #54
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I always knew I wanted a supercharger on this car. I didn't get too caught up with HP numbers. The blower went on and I'm at about 500 rwhp. It sees the track occasionally, but it's mainly just a street car. With drag radials, it'll run 11's. My best on the stock tires was 12.06. To be honest, even when it was stock, it really couldn't be driven to it's full potential on the streets. It was adequate then. It's more than adequate now, and the only time I can really get on it is freeway on-ramps and long stretches of road when no one is around. At this point, even with new, fatter tires, the car is still traction limited. There's really no point in more power that I can't put to the ground without more upgrades.

I'm sure 700 or 800 HP would be fun, but that's just absolutely ridiculous for the streets. I think it's more about bragging rights than anything else.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:09 PM   #55
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I disagree. When I go out to play on the street the other cars are pushing 900-1100rwhp. A 500-700rwhp isn't even in the ballpark unless it weighs 2200lbs or less.

750rwhp is a good place for a 5th gen.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:13 PM   #56
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I disagree. When I go out to play on the street the other cars are pushing 900-1100rwhp. A 500-700rwhp isn't even in the ballpark unless it weighs 2200lbs or less.

750rwhp is a good place for a 5th gen.
I don't see how you can legally play on the streets with 1000 HP. Are all these cars driving around on drag radials or slicks? I'd imagine getting all that power to the ground would be quite a challenge.

Speed limits aside, I imagine it would make for some fun times
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:18 PM   #57
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Would not want the hassell of anything with that much power over 700 to modify other parts
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:22 PM   #58
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It has nothing to do with need but it sure is fun. I'm not sure why you would have to answer questions about something that makes you happy. When your wife asks if you really need a 600 hp car, ask her how she would feel if you asked her if she really needs a husband.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:02 PM   #59
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forget the LS3 conversion...stick with a VVT cam.
over 600whp is fun for sure. It gets a bit different in the rain or loose stuff on road surface...you just have to respect the pedal. I would say it is no where near the limits of a street car. Maybe 700 like ADM has said...its all in power-weight ratio. You put a 600+whp LS motor in a vette you are on the cusp of rediculous...but in madness is excitement!
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The best way I've heard it said is, "supercharging makes the car the way it should have been from the factory".
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:05 PM   #61
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The best way I've heard it said is, "supercharging makes the car the way it should have been from the factory".
Definitely

Just doing a gear swap makes a nice difference, too.
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:54 PM   #62
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Everyone can agree on this 450-500 Nice 501-550 Real Nice 551 -599 Super!!!! 600-? PRICELESS. !!!!!!!
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:53 PM   #63
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Yes drag radials, but drag radials these days last awhile and hook pretty good.
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Old 10-12-2013, 01:01 AM   #64
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When I bought the car, I knew it would get a bunch of my go fast work on it.
Been saving, and planning, and being a good boy. Work on cars all the time, so I know the value of doing it right.
The turbos and stuff have been in the shop for almost a year. I'm shooting for 600whp on my buddy's dyno, so double current power basically.
It's time. The car doesn't give me much of a rush at any speed anymore.
I still love it, but I need the rush. It's a heavy car. I think they are fun around 450whp(driven 2 at that power) and I'm hoping 600whp will be a little bonkers.
I'm assuming with my boost controller I can turn it as low as 475who or so on the springs. Only drive the car about 5 months a year, 3 months of which almost daily.
Glad you pulled the trigger. Have fun. Hopefully you don't get jaded as fast as most...
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Old 10-12-2013, 04:00 AM   #65
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I'm at 570/520 at 9.6lbs and they guys at work ask me what its like to drive it and I tell them its simple:
You know when your driving around a near stock v8 car right after it rains and you can break the tires loose at will and think how cool it would be if you could do it when its dry out? There you go......
I will say that it doesn't do so hot with the gas needle though lol.
I will be doing a cam swap and ported heads this winter to help me reach 650.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:45 PM   #66
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775 rwhp and drive it everyday. I love it.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:00 PM   #67
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:14 AM   #69
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What's done to your car franklin813???

How fast has it gone? Looks like Killer car
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I always knew I wanted a supercharger on this car. I didn't get too caught up with HP numbers. The blower went on and I'm at about 500 rwhp. It sees the track occasionally, but it's mainly just a street car. With drag radials, it'll run 11's. My best on the stock tires was 12.06. To be honest, even when it was stock, it really couldn't be driven to it's full potential on the streets. It was adequate then. It's more than adequate now, and the only time I can really get on it is freeway on-ramps and long stretches of road when no one is around. At this point, even with new, fatter tires, the car is still traction limited. There's really no point in more power that I can't put to the ground without more upgrades.

I'm sure 700 or 800 HP would be fun, but that's just absolutely ridiculous for the streets. I think it's more about bragging rights than anything else.
Totally agree. My good friends 2012 stock Turbo S Porsche crushes 800rwhp Camaro's, factory ZR1 Corvettes, etc. with a little 3.8L 530hp 516tq AWD car with a lighting fast PDK trans on factory street tires. There is no substitute for weight and an AWD system with a great trans. Around here there are so many Turbo S's, GTR's, Aventadors, Superleggeras, etc. and there is no chance for overweight, high horsepower Camaro's compared to these cars. Beating a Mustang or Challenger is nothing to get excited about compared to the killer machines that run the streets around here with street tires and can drive safely anywhere. If the power can't get to the ground it is worthless. I am not going to drive around with drag radials/slicks when we have some of the best canyon and ocean drives around.
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Totally agree. My good friends 2012 stock Turbo S Porsche crushes 800rwhp Camaro's, factory ZR1 Corvettes, etc. with a little 3.8L 530hp 516tq AWD car with a lighting fast PDK trans on factory street tires. There is no substitute for weight and an AWD system with a great trans. Around here there are so many Turbo S's, GTR's, Aventadors, Superleggeras, etc. and there is no chance for overweight, high horsepower Camaro's compared to these cars. Beating a Mustang or Challenger is nothing to get excited about compared to the killer machines that run the streets around here with street tires and can drive safely anywhere. If the power can't get to the ground it is worthless. I am not going to drive around with drag radials/slicks when we have some of the best canyon and ocean drives around.
Yeah but how.much is that turbo S just curious

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Prime example is what happened to me yesterday of why we want more.
I was in the turn lane leaving town to get on the on ramp and the light catches me. Had some Harleys behind me with some older guys on them and at first thought they may start to get upset with me for not shooting the gap. I hate people that run red lights so if I can stop easily I stop.
So I'm sitting there first at the light with Harleys loping away behind me(I have the windows down) and the light is fairly long. I hear a couple of them talking to each other about my car so I just sit and listen lol. A couple of seconds later the lead guy pulls up beside me.
"Does it run good?"
"Yeah, sure." I say.
"Well go ahead when the light turns tear it up getting on the ramp we will be right behind ya!"
OK. Were is my ACDC CD when I need it.....
Light turns green and I go and turn. Once I get straight I lay 520lbft of torque to the 265/35-22 Coopers......
I'm at about 25mph when I drop the hammer and I instantly hit the limiter(oops). I shift second and still blow the tires off and shift on into third and get some traction at around 60-70mph. Perfect merging speed onto the Mexican turnpike. I set the cruise and a few minutes later the bikers catch up to me and pass me. I get a salute ovation and thumbs up from them all. Hell, I would have liked to have seen it myself lol.
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:34 AM   #73
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Looks like those turbo S cars will hit 60 in under 3 secs and do the quarter in the 10 second range. That's pretty nice performance for a street car, but they'll also run you around $180K.
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Looks like those turbo S cars will hit 60 in under 3 secs and do the quarter in the 10 second range. That's pretty nice performance for a street car, but they'll also run you around $180K.
You are exactly right about the performance and the price E.T. My friends car had a $175k msrp but, he picked up at the end of the year for $142k. There is a definite difference in price, but like they say on this forum, you got to pay to play. That said, regardless of price, the Camaro is a super value and a great looking, fun car that can be made to handle and perform fairly competitively. E.T. you are running 12 flat with street tires which is pretty impressive. I want a TVS2300 also. Love the Camaro.
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You are exactly right about the performance and the price E.T. My friends car had a $175k msrp but, he picked up at the end of the year for $142k. There is a definite difference in price, but like they say on this forum, you got to pay to play. That said, regardless of price, the Camaro is a super value and a great looking, fun car that can be made to handle and perform fairly competitively. E.T. you are running 12 flat with street tires which is pretty impressive. I want a TVS2300 also. Love the Camaro.
Even though your buddy's Porsche is fast as hell, at least you can poke a little fun at him that it's only a V6, hehe. I'm sure it sounds sick, but it's still hard to beat that good old V8 rumble.

You'll love the TVS if you end up going for it. It totally changes the car (in a good way).
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