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Old 09-25-2013, 03:49 PM   #35
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The RS option sells well because that's what a lot of people want. In fact, when we forecast the RS package, we severely underestimated the 'take rate' and had to renegotiate for additional materials.
And the 'take rate' on the RS package for ZL1 purchasers is 100%.
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:53 PM   #36
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i live in PA and ill be driving my SS on my stock pirellis come snow-time
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:23 PM   #37
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The OP is looking at possibly purchasing a 2LT convertible (which he didn't mention, unless he's changed his mind).

MY '10 & '11 had tinted taillights with RS package only. Effective with the 2012 MY, they were standard on all models.

4-pack auxillary gauges are standard on all 2LT & 2SS models, irrespective whether RS or non-RS (to the best of my recollection).

MY '12, changed the sharkfin antenna to body colored with the RS package.

OP, it's financially more advantageous to get the RS option because of the larger wheels and HIDs unless you KNOW you'll never want 20" wheels or the HIDs. As others have mentioned, adding these aftermarket is going to be expensive.
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:48 PM   #38
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Back to the OP: all SS Camaros come with 20" wheels and summer tires, whether RS or not.

20" wheels and summer tires are an RS upgrade only on V6 cars.

On an SS, you don't get that much by ordering RS.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:09 PM   #39
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Baba. yes it a vert. the 20s are nice wheels by all means but until yesterday ni dealer wad willing to switch the tires to all seasons. i want a car that no hassle in changing wheels or tires for cild weather. the rs looks great. but will see what happens when i go look friday. its all bkack 2lt
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:13 PM   #40
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Ok thanks for input. yrs the non rs is 19 as std equip. 20 are with rs . i like the wheel its just the tires for a dd not good but dealer would switch. the lites are brighter . fo the headlites and halo have seperate bulbs?

another thing, 20" tires are much more common (cheaper) than 19's.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:17 PM   #41
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Because the headlights make the car look a billion times better.
Not to mention the HIDs really light up the road - a very welcome feature out here in the country with deer and other varmits everywhere.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:22 PM   #42
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Yes i heard they are brighter and more expensive. do the halos have a seperate bulb?
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:24 PM   #43
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I'm not sure if it's true anymore (or ever was), but when I bought my 2LT RS, I seem to remember reading that the governed top speed was significantly higher (as a results of the "Z" rated tires being able to handle it). Not a big deal for some, but could be for others.

Anyway, like I said, not 100% sure of that claim and too lazy to search right now, but throwing it out there for the community to confirm/deny.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:34 PM   #44
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Baba. yes it a vert. the 20s are nice wheels by all means but until yesterday ni dealer wad willing to switch the tires to all seasons. i want a car that no hassle in changing wheels or tires for cild weather. the rs looks great. but will see what happens when i go look friday. its all bkack 2lt
Did you get the link for the price lists I sent you yesterday evening?
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Yes baba but doing this from phone as my laptop is in the shop i think lt is 155 with 19 and 20 and 18 inch wgeels st 118 per brochure on speed
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Yes i heard they are brighter and more expensive. do the halos have a seperate bulb?
Not positive, Kevin, but I believe the halos are a separate ring of LEDs (not a "bulb", per say) independent of the headlights. Don't quote me on that...
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:15 PM   #47
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I really liked the RS 20's, so not feeling any need to change rims and HIDs are a must-have in my book. Although I might change out the bulbs for 6000k bulbs at some point. But, only when I do a full led light switchover. Maybe in a year or two.

As others have mentioned, the RS is a popular package. Trying finding a non-sunroof car in Cali. Not an easy find. When I got my '13 there were two cars with the color/options I wanted between Seattle and Dallas.

IMO, Modding is great and I have done a lot of it over the years, but, modding something you could have gotten as a factory option is usually more hassle than just getting the factory option. And the 20's are becoming a more common size than 19's and are going to generally be cheaper.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:19 PM   #48
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I really like my non RS car. I think it works with my look. At the last Camaro cruise I had the only car out of 10 that did not have the RS package on it. I was pretty happy with that, lol. Made mine more original...
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:19 PM   #49
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Yes i heard they are brighter and more expensive. do the halos have a seperate bulb?
Halos are a separate light entirely. They are either a string of small LED bulbs (more modern versions) or they used to be a gas tube, similar to neon light tubing. Installing those back on BMWs in the early 00's. They were very fragile required a special ballast, electrical voltage converters...bleech...it was a pain.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:20 PM   #50
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the halo ring is a single LED directing light to a plastic ring, you should buy the car with the p zeros and no worries, I live in Oregon and someday will change to a all season with a better twice as long wear rating and have driven mine in snow and ice carefully and they will not crack in extreme cold weather which is a problem with the summer only super soft tires the zl1 or 1le come with that are not to be used in below freezing weather supposedly. The traction rating for the p zeros is excellent at AAA, the wear rating is only 220 meaning they wear out quick and you can get a all season with 440-480 wear rating at tirerack.com that will double the life with the same traction but will not be z speed rated for 180mph only y for like 155 mph like you are going to drive that fast........ Those are factors you should consider when you get other tires by comparison..... As I recall you should get tornado resistant tires in Kansas.......... And yes for the price the RS option is worth it.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:28 PM   #51
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If the summer tires are your biggest issue with the RS package, work with the dealer to swap out the tires for tires you want. Don't let the tires keep you from getting the rest of the RS package.

This is what I did my recent purchase .. I got the dealer to swap out the tires for all season tires of my choice (Continential Extreme Contact DWS). At the front of the negotiation they were going to give me $300 credit on the summer tires and have me pay the $1,000 and change for the tires I wanted plus mount and balance. By the time I was done I didn't pay anything for the new tires or the mount and balance...in fact, they didn't even put the tires on the paperwork for the deal. I'm extremely happy with the new tires and the car handles great with them.

Another option, and one I did for two winters with my 08 CTS (the FE3 suspension comes with summer only tires) was buy a second set of rims and winter tires .. Blizzaks. I didn't like the space the wheels and tires were taking up in my garage so I swapped out the summer only tires for the Continentals and sold the extra rims and Blizzaks .. sold them for more they cost me new
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