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Old 09-26-2013, 01:02 PM   #18
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and thats why cars like the Z/28 and Shelby Mustangs will have a more performance oriented intake design. because they know the poeple that buy these cars are in it for the performance because thats the point of those cars.

and guess what...a lot of companies make aftermarket intakes for the GT500. so whats the point in developing one from the factory?
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:04 PM   #19
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Look familiar?? This photo was taken at SEMA last year in the GM booth on a new Malibu. interesting to say the least. You never know, cold air intakes may be on factory vehicles sooner than we thought and it looks like they are being sourced from a company that many of us here on Camaro5 are already familiar with!
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:04 PM   #20
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I remember seeing this thread awhile back and looked it up. This picture was taken in the GM booth at SEMA last year on a Malibu, the CAI looks like one from CAI Inc. to me, which makes me glad I chose them for my Camaro!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...light=sema+cai

**EDIT, CHASE JUST POSTED THE PIC FROM THE THREAD ABOVE LMAO **
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:08 PM   #21
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Look familiar?? This photo was taken at SEMA last year in the GM booth on a new Malibu. interesting to say the least. You never know, cold air intakes may be on factory vehicles sooner than we thought and it looks like they are being sourced from a company that many of us here on Camaro5 are already familiar with!
On a Malibu of all things! Too funny.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:12 PM   #22
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On a Malibu of all things! Too funny.
As I recall there were a few other vehicles in the GM booth rocking very similar intakes as well.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:16 PM   #23
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Look familiar?? This photo was taken at SEMA last year in the GM booth on a new Malibu. interesting to say the least. You never know, cold air intakes may be on factory vehicles sooner than we thought and it looks like they are being sourced from a company that many of us here on Camaro5 are already familiar with!
Chase where is the air inlet duct for that? How big is it?
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:17 PM   #24
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As I recall there were a few other vehicles in the GM booth rocking very similar intakes as well.
I'd love to see it on future GM cars, but I just can't picture a Malibu owner that would care about this.

Camaro or Vette, absolutely

Sonic, probably

Impala or Cruze, why not

Malibu, not so much
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:18 PM   #25
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GM was planning on selling a GMPP CAI but it was never released.

Anyone know why?

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Old 09-26-2013, 01:22 PM   #26
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I'd love to see it on future GM cars, but I just can't picture a Malibu owner that would care about this.

Camaro or Vette, absolutely

Sonic, probably

Impala or Cruze, why not

Malibu, not so much
It was some kind of a Malibu Turbo Performance Package they were showing off. I believe they had a Sonic and Cruze with similar intakes there.

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Chase where is the air inlet duct for that? How big is it?
I think those cars are fed through the side of the fender where the box is attached. A lot of trucks are like that.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:35 PM   #27
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Because CAIs are an aftermarket money making scam and the manufacturers know it. Numerous tests have been done that adding a CAI to an otherwise stock engine will provide nothing noticeably more than a sound difference. Unless your running cat-less on the track, a CAI is useless for performance.

That being said, the stock air-filters are junk and restrictive, but adding a high-flow filter in the stock air intake will net the same gains on an otherwise stock setup.
This is so full of fail, I don't know where to start. Oh yeah, SEARCH.

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Partially this^ a high flow air filter can acheive the same small gains that some cai's would, and gm would make less money making a conical filter that is reusable. On top of that if the general public would have to do maintenance such as oil and clean their air filters, people wouldn't leading to warranty coverage costs adding up for gm on top of the losses from not selling a shitload of ac delco paper filters to everyone when they get their oil changed. Those paper filters have huge markup i would assume, cause a paper filter couldn't cost that much to manufacture. It all comes down to money in the end, every company cares about profits beyond everything else, if they didn't then they would be called a charity.
It's been shown on many occasions that a higher flowing filter does nothing for performance in this vehicle. Yes they do flow more on a flowbench but inside the OEM intake, it flows no better than OEM.

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GM was planning on selling a GMPP CAI but it was never released.

Anyone know why?

http://www.chevroletperformance.com/...o_sitelet.html
Can you not see that this intake is EXACTLY like the OEM one, only it has a different finish on it. If you want this intake, paint the one that's on your car now and viola, you have a GMPP CAI. It wasn't released because not many people would pay for performance intake that doesn't add performance.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:42 PM   #28
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:44 PM   #29
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[QUOTE=axis;7039239]This is so full of fail, I don't know where to start. QUOTE]

Try this for full of fail: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320019

Enjoy!
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:48 PM   #30
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a CAI is louder than an air box. OEM's spend millions developing s air box that doesn't whistle, or chirp.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:50 PM   #31
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Can you not see that this intake is EXACTLY like the OEM one, only it has a different finish on it. If you want this intake, paint the one that's on your car now and viola, you have a GMPP CAI. It wasn't released because not many people would pay for performance intake that doesn't add performance.
Axis, the air tube is different.

Has anyone ever seen what one of these looked like inside? Maybe at SEMA or some other venue?
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:56 PM   #32
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This is so full of fail, I don't know where to start. Oh yeah, SEARCH.
I have, and if anything you may see an actual gain of maybe 5 - 10 HP, but sometimes results have been a drop in HP. My point is that a 5 - 10 HP gain is negligible, you won't even feel it, and a stock setup will not benefit from it anymore than a drop-in high-flow filter would. IMO it is certainly not worth paying $400 - $500 for and an hour of my time installing it.

If I want "real" performance increase then I would opt for a header and high-flow cat swap to start, while still using the stock air-intake with a high-flow filter of course. Then if I still wanted to go further I would either do a Head and Cam swap or some sort of forced induction. Then, and maybe only then, would I do a CAI. But I wouldn't even do this without massive suspension, chassis bracing, and brake upgrade as well.

But before I paid for all that I would just buy a Z06 Corvette instead. This is probably Chevrolet's thinking as well, hence what the Op asked in the first place... is why Manufacturers do not put CAIs in stock cars.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:11 PM   #33
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I owned various GM products over the years long ago ('62 'vette, '69 SS396 Chevelle, '70-1/2 Z/28, '64 'vette coupe, '76 Trans Am). Then I switched to Mustangs ('96 Cobra, '01 Cobra, '08 GT500) when I disliked gen3 and gen4 Camaro styling. I still have those three Mustangs but have added a '13 IOM ZL1.

C&L and JLT CAIs are popular Mustang mods. Both increase airflow enough where a tune is required to avoid running lean and risking detonation.

But here it seems like everyone wants to avoid a tune for their Camaro and use something like a Rotofab that doesn't require one. Why is that? I can't believe its strictly that Mustang owners are okay with voiding their warranty and Camaro owners aren't.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:24 PM   #34
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The wife's 2014 GT 5.0 has one from the factory....but it didn't help her against my SS the other nite
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