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View Poll Results: which blower cam
jre rough idle 17 21.52%
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:40 PM   #26
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Don't just look at the peak numbers when picking a cam... Everything you just said about "don't want it to be hard on the springs" is exactly opposite of choosing a cam solely based on power.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:07 PM   #27
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Well how often do springs need to be changed. Obviously there are a ton of variables but i dont know
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:09 PM   #28
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Depends in the cam, I expect to change mine often, maybe after every other racing season.
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:21 PM   #29
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We can make custom changes to the NFC to suit your build if needed but we often make 700+rwhp with the NFC and the ECS Kit just as you have. In fact, after ECS we probably install the most ECS kits than any other vendor on this site . They just perform plain and simple!
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:48 PM   #30
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custom centri cam for the 377 that made over 1krwhp and another custom turbo grind for the AGP kit being installed by Joe@CPR. I wouldn't sleep as well knowing I didn't try to squeeze MOST of the power out of the combo.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:33 AM   #31
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:35 AM   #33
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Night Fury.. 557RWHP before, 665RWHP after
Yeah with about 2-3 lbs of boost added..
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:41 PM   #34
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] I wouldn't sleep as well knowing I didn't try to squeeze MOST of the power out of the combo.
Yea im like that too
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:32 PM   #35
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A custom cam might better be described as a "personal" cam. No way would I install anyone's secret cam. If I don't know the specs, it ain't goin in. I see some cams used by folks that I think are pretty dumb. Does that make them wrong? Hell no. Wrong for me may be perfect for you. It's all about the combo and what you're wanting the cam to help accomplish.

Cams are one big compromise. You get a little here and give up a little there. The neat thing about f/I is that you don't need a cam that causes your rig to be ill mannered. You can have it all. Great manners and stupid big power. Of course, if an ill mannered cam cranks your tractor, I'm not going to tell you your cam choice is wrong. Just becuz I wouldn't do it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. I've had my black car, my convertible, and my stupid big cam. I won't be revisiting any of those again.
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Yup...FI plus a VVT cam is even more friendly....gains everywhere, no losses.
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Yeah with about 2-3 lbs of boost added..
Its at the Same 11psi as before the cam


OP, no matter which cam you choose, having a tuner that knows how to make not only the power but how to make your car drive well is really a huge part of it too.

I had someone recently call me and ask me about the NightFury cam. He was having ECS install their sc kit on his car so there was only one correct answer to give imo........if ECS is doing the install and tuning, it just makes sense to go with their big blower cam. After all its their cam, they are doing the install and they install and tune it very well ALL the time.

Its not always about just trying to sell parts....

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Yeah with about 2-3 lbs of boost added..
Same Boost for dyno results
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Might be the same boost, but it was using a smaller pulley to do that. If you just added tem cam the gains would be less.
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I lost 1.5 psi of boost when I installed the cam with the same pulleys.
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Might be the same boost, but it was using a smaller pulley to do that. If you just added tem cam the gains would be less.
Of course there was a pulley swap to keep the boost the same. It didnt increase the overall psi though. Before cam 11psi, after cam 11psi. The goal was just that, nothing more. We know the cam will drop the boost a few psi so changes were made to keep it at the previous psi. SmokedSS wants the best possible gains to be able to improve at the track.
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Of course there was a pulley swap to keep the boost the same. It didnt increase the overall psi though. Before cam 11psi, after cam 11psi. The goal was just that, nothing more. We know the cam will drop the boost a few psi so changes were made to keep it at the previous psi. SmokedSS wants the best possible gains to be able to improve at the track.
I should have done that, when I installed my cam. Have you had a chance to go back to the track since your rebuild?
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I should have done that, when I installed my cam. Have you had a chance to go back to the track since your rebuild?
How long have u had your D1SC on the car? How many miles? I've been reading people complaining about prochargers on the street leaking oil at the impeller seals. How's yours been?
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How long have u had your D1SC on the car? How many miles? I've been reading people complaining about prochargers on the street leaking oil at the impeller seals. How's yours been?
I have never heard that. I have had mine for two years and about 12,000 miles daily driver with no issue. I Love it.
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Yeah with about 2-3 lbs of boost added..
I was making 575 rwhp with the stock cam @ 11 lbs of boost. After adding the cam 665 rwhp @ 9.3 lbs of boost on the same dyno. Very happy with the results, but would love to bump it up to 11 lbs again.
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Nice. Glad to see u enjoying your procharger. By far my favorite blower but I'm only used to using there race blowers. F3's and bigger. Built motors and crew chiefed for my buddies pro street mustang. Small block ford on alcohol making 50 pounds of boost. Best we managed was 6.50 @ 212 MPH. Retired from racing and now I want to play on the street!!!!

Can't decide between a procharger D1SC, Vortech YSI or Maggie 2300. The catch is, which ever blower I get it has to be able to run a cog drive reliably with a manual transmission on the street and not blow belts on violent gear changes. I've been told with the centri blowers running a cog on the street with a manual transmission really depends on how sturdy the brackets are. If there's lots of movement you'll blow belts all the time on hard gear changes. So far the Maggie is looking like the most reliable with a cog drive. I gotta have the blower whine sound!!!!! Need to find some guys with centri blowers and cog drive and find out what the real dealio is??
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Nice. Glad to see u enjoying your procharger. By far my favorite blower but I'm only used to using there race blowers. F3's and bigger. Built motors and crew chiefed for my buddies pro street mustang. Small block ford on alcohol making 50 pounds of boost. Best we managed was 6.50 @ 212 MPH. Retired from racing and now I want to play on the street!!!!

Can't decide between a procharger D1SC, Vortech YSI or Maggie 2300. The catch is, which ever blower I get it has to be able to run a cog drive reliably with a manual transmission on the street and not blow belts on violent gear changes. I've been told with the centri blowers running a cog on the street with a manual transmission really depends on how sturdy the brackets are. If there's lots of movement you'll blow belts all the time on hard gear changes. So far the Maggie is looking like the most reliable with a cog drive. I gotta have the blower whine sound!!!!! Need to find some guys with centri blowers and cog drive and find out what the real dealio is??
I hear some have ran the YSI with a cog on the street. Not sure about the belt life. How much power are you looking to make? Ysi will make over a 1000 no problem.
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