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Old 10-05-2013, 02:10 PM   #1
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Who is truly happy with the hp their Zl1 is making?

The ZL1 is a great car. It has so much technology tied into its' structure. The thing is, horsepower is key. The ZL1 is quick..but is it quick enough? After a few trips to the track, I can say mine has gotten boring. Low 12s is cool, but low 11s would be even better.

Resisting the urge to molest this car has been an exercise in restraint. I want to keep my warranty. Though my car has gone into the 11s already, it's just not exciting. Every stock GT500 I've seen at the track has come dangerously close to hitting the wall. That's the kind of power I'm looking for.
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'99 SS M6. 13.28 @ 105 stock. 12.02 @ 116.5 bolt-ons on street tires. Full weight. New combo 10.94 @ 126.9 n/a full weight on et streets. .http://youtu.be/BCJNFJrp2lg

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Old 10-05-2013, 02:28 PM   #2
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Cool and fun cars just as they are. However, for the Hi-Performance Junkies there is much more to be attained.

Once you've had the big HP its very difficult to live with going bacwards : )

The NicKey Stage I option adds 100 rwhp and our Stage II better than 200 rwhp.

I can remember when Camaros only had 200rwhp or less!

I'm not saying this as a shop owner, but as a ZL-1 owner.
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:28 PM   #3
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It will never be enough. For every plateau you hit, it will get boring and you will spend more to reach a new level. Its just the way it is. Welcome to the world of speed and horsepower.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:06 PM   #4
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Its a never ending cycle. I wouldn't be happy with a stock Zl1, not that mine is super modified, but that is me. I have to screw around with every car I have otherwise they just get boring. I am very happy with were mine is track wise (however stuck at 11.0 is very frustrating!) but even that is getting old. I am planning on doing some autocross or roadracing with it to mix things up. I've always been a 1/4 mile guy so it will be fun to try new things
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:19 PM   #5
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Once you've had the big HP its very difficult to live with going bacwards : )[/QUOTE]

You can say that again! I'm hooked and love the additional 200+rwhp!! It's hard to not want more.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:19 PM   #6
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Its a never ending cycle. I wouldn't be happy with a stock Zl1, not that mine is super modified, but that is me. I have to screw around with every car I have otherwise they just get boring. I am very happy with were mine is track wise (however stuck at 11.0 is very frustrating!) but even that is getting old. I am planning on doing some autocross or roadracing with it to mix things up. I've always been a 1/4 mile guy so it will be fun to try new things
I think I will pattern my Z around yours..minus skinnies. 12.0s is very boring. Thankfully my other street car runs 10.9s.
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'99 SS M6. 13.28 @ 105 stock. 12.02 @ 116.5 bolt-ons on street tires. Full weight. New combo 10.94 @ 126.9 n/a full weight on et streets. .http://youtu.be/BCJNFJrp2lg
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:19 PM   #7
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My stock ZL1's HP has become boring to me. It is nice though having a warranty which means if my LSA grenades then it's on GM's dime. That piece of mind is how I deal with being bored of "only" 580HP. lol

So for now I spend my money on mods that don't affect my car's warranty which means it makes my Z a little different from the stock crowds.

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Old 10-05-2013, 08:32 PM   #8
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I'm very happy with mine. 580HP is more than enough for a street car. I wish it was about 800 pound lighter though.
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:53 PM   #9
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Funny, the most powerful Camaro ever produced and already it isn't enough!
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:05 PM   #10
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I've got more than enough HP for cruising around Vegas and back and forth to the LA area. I saw a small increase in HP after installing my Roto-Fab cold air intake. I have no complaints.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:24 PM   #11
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These cars feel so smooth that they don't feel like 580hp in my opinion. And the weight doesn't help either.
My SS felt a whole lot faster than the ZL1 does, a whole lot. And it was only 430rwhp.

That said, I'm ready for a bit more power too.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:43 PM   #12
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The ZL1 is a great car. It has so much technology tied into its' structure. The thing is, horsepower is key. The ZL1 is quick..but is it quick enough? After a few trips to the track, I can say mine has gotten boring. Low 12s is cool, but low 11s would be even better.

Resisting the urge to molest this car has been an exercise in restraint. I want to keep my warrentee. Though my car has gone into the 11s already, it's just not exciting. Every stock GT500 I've seen at the track has come dangerously close to hitting the wall. That's the kind of power I'm looking for.
HP is so addicting

Just like crack, never get enough

More is better

Sorry honey the bank account is empty

I promise I'll stop after this mod

Ok so I lied but this is it really I swear on my Pickup truck( never swear on your ZL1)

What now an intervention with your family, I hope you called my friends from Camaro5
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:14 PM   #13
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I dunno. I'm kinda satisfied with it. I'm past my prime for the "need for speed". That's why I opted for the 'vert. I still love the power it has, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't have to be the baddest kid on the block to appreciate it.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:18 PM   #14
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I have owned mine 2 days.. SO far so good..lol
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:45 PM   #15
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Let's be honest..You can never have enough hp. If GM would have dropped the LS9 in it we all would have said [whiney little kid voice] "Why bother dropping in the LS9 if you're not going to at least match the GT500 hp? Come on GM!" lol.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:59 PM   #16
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Hmmmmmmm. I guess my answer is I'm extremely happy with my car.


But there is no such thing as too much hp. So maybe I'll do some pulleys and a tune one day.
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:46 AM   #17
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I'm very happy with mine. 580HP is more than enough for a street car. I wish it was about 800 pound lighter though.
This.
I'd settle for 400 pounds less.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:51 AM   #18
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Perfectly happy with what I have now. My Z is fast enough FOR ME. A few hundred pounds lighter would be great for the car & maybe one hundred pounds lighter for the driver, too.
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:49 AM   #19
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I'll admit that I am wanting more HP. I do like what's there now, but it's a addiction. Always wanting more.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:41 AM   #20
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Is it a women's car....or a manual trans???
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:47 AM   #21
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Is it a women's car....or a manual trans???
I guess that's why most drag cars are "women's cars" as you put it.

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Old 10-06-2013, 07:47 AM   #22
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Like what was said already, the weight is what's really keeping this car from being a much more fun ride. No doubt this would be an easy 11.7 car with just 300 lbs less weight to carry.

I wish I had gotten a manual tranny but they appear very difficult to drive. I don't think I've personally seen a stock one run quicker than 12.5s.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #23
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Every stock GT500 I've seen at the track has come dangerously close to hitting the wall.

That's a good thing. Can't believe I missed this the first time. Are we celebrating the fact that the GT500 doesn't handle for crap?
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:47 AM   #24
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These cars feel so smooth that they don't feel like 580hp in my opinion. And the weight doesn't help either.
My SS felt a whole lot faster than the ZL1 does, a whole lot. And it was only 430rwhp.
Nice job on the 11.87 Dan.

11.99 stock internal for my commuter vehicle and then I do heads/cam or get something else. I miss high 10's, been 9.4's as my quickest ever in the past.

That said, I'm ready for a bit more power too.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:58 AM   #25
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Just saying...a manual car that you have to shift...just adds an element of "fun" to drag racing. Sitting there tapping flippers....ain't for me.
Get ready. Manuals are dying quick. Even the new GT3 dropped the manual for a 7 speed DCT.
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