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Old 07-13-2009, 09:21 AM   #1
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Mobil1 Feul saving 0w-30 OK?

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I could get a deal on 0w-30 Mobil1 Fuel Saving oil.
Mobil states it exceeds the warrany requirements of 5w & 10w-30 synthetics and saves gas and wants you to try it.
Anyone know if this is ok with GM?
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:28 AM   #2
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I would not do it if I had a Camaro. Royal Purple 5 30w has the proper certifications and is superior to the Mobil1 one products.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:38 AM   #3
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mobil1

I'm saying if I go with the GM recommended Mobil1 and 0w-30 exceeds the warranty requirements of 5w-30 is it OK with GM.
I'm not asking about other brands here - Please..
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:39 AM   #4
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I have some independent test data on about the top 12 or so synthetics and royal purple showed to be the WORST. They do a 4-ball wear ball test where they basically use a machine that rotate steel balls in a race (like a bearing race) under heavy load, high temps, and then measure the depth of the groove that is worn in the race. Royal Purple, in pretty much every test, was last place, and Mobil 1 wasn't much better. And we are talking noticable differences. The last place oil allowed the ball to wear a groove somewhere around 3 times deeper than the best-performing oil.

I'll dig out the test sheets and post them up here, but if I remember right, Amsoil was #1.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:40 AM   #5
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Oh, and Royal Purple uses a bunch of Moly in their oil - I think one of the only makers left that does this - it has a tendency to settle out of suspension (because moly is actually a solid particle like graphite), clog filters, etc.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:44 AM   #6
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Here's that graph of selected synthetics in the 4-ball wear test. Note where royal purple finishes...
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:54 AM   #7
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Yea but Amsoil lacks all the certifications. I don't know about those other lubes.

And as far as the graph I would not put so much into that without knowing the source. Without the heat cycles the lube is just tested at room temp probably. But I have seen the timken race bearing test, which is also fresh lube at room temp, and RP did very good.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:55 AM   #8
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That sure does look like Amsoil marketing data... notice how the Amsoil is highlighted.

I wouldn't trust marketing data. Use engineering data.


and..... the OP is not wanting a different brand of oil anyways

he just wants to know if Mobil 0-W30 is safe.... and I would like to know if anyone really knows....
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Did Amsoil get API certifications for this oil? Makes no sense to change the viscosity either and could void warranty. You need to have API cert, same viscosity and paperwork for every change to prove schedule compliance.

I don't want to be anti Amsoil they are not bad or else lot of people would not use and recommend it. Lucas they can be trusted. Don't know about the others.
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Yea but Amsoil lacks all the certifications. I don't know about those other lubes.

And as far as the graph I would not put so much into that without knowing the source. Without the heat cycles the lube is just tested at room temp probably. But I have seen the timken race bearing test, which is also fresh lube at room temp, and RP did very good.
This test was at 130 deg C. And, Amsoil is in most cases certified. Even meets the newest Diesel certifications for the new 'clean' diesels.
And it is an ASTM certified test. That standardizes everything. Just food for thought...
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Mobil 1 is what my dealer said to run , no warranty issues with it ???
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OP, I would not run 0W-30 Mobil 1. Not worth the risk. Stick with Mobil 1 5W-30, per specs. No questionable issues with warranty, and it's very good oil.

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Run exactly what GM says or risk voiding your warranty.

Keep receipts for the proper oil.
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Guys,
I could get a deal on 0w-30 Mobil1 Fuel Saving oil.
Mobil states it exceeds the warrany requirements of 5w & 10w-30 synthetics and saves gas and wants you to try it.
Anyone know if this is ok with GM?
it should be fine. ideally tho, you should stick with what GM wants. however, the fact that you live in CT means you probably deal with some cold starting temps thruought the year. that being said, 0w-30 would be better off for you in the winter time than 5w-30. its not a big jump, but 0w-30 is rated better for cold starts.


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OP, I would not run 0W-30 Mobil 1. Not worth the risk. Stick with Mobil 1 5W-30, per specs. No questionable issues with warranty, and it's very good oil.

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the only difference between the two is the cold starting viscosity of the oil. once the oil has warmed up, they will both perform the same. and as I mentioned to the OP, living in CT he probably experiences colder weather than those living farther south and the 0w oil will provide a little better protection during cold startup
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