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Old 11-02-2015, 05:58 PM   #1
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Towing the Camaro on a trailer

I'm trying to get the Z28 prepped for a track weekend in a few weeks and was thinking of trailering vs driving. However this car is WAY wider than my M3 was.
Space between wheels wells in the trailer is 81 1/2". I believe the Z28 width with my measurements is about 80 - 80 1/2" best I can tell. No way in hell would I trust myself to drive the car in, would have to winch it in with that tight of a clearance.

I was thinking of cutting the steel wheel wells in the trailer 1" on both sides to widen the wheel well opening, which is doable, but a lot of work.

For those towing, what is the width of your wheel wells on the trailer?? Is mine narrow?

Here's what I'm working with.

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Old 11-02-2015, 06:29 PM   #2
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Yours is not narrow I have a really nice all aluminum feather light open trailer I have put it on and it's crazy.

The deck is ~ 1" wider than the car. I use a winch.

It's even hairy when I put the car on my four post lift. The car is super wide.
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:08 PM   #3
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Is that a 24 foot trailer ?
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:12 PM   #4
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Car is 79.5 and trail is 81.5 so you have 1" per side but
How are you going to get out,lol need a side door.
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:26 PM   #5
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How I to and from track day



I need a better job, I am doing it wrong.


But it is a wide girl, I have ~2" off each mirror pulling into my garage. Nervous everytime.


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Old 11-02-2015, 09:31 PM   #6
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Is that a 24 foot trailer ?
It's a 20' plus an extra 18" for the "V" area.


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Car is 79.5 and trail is 81.5 so you have 1" per side but
How are you going to get out,lol need a side door.

I planned to just winch it in and out, no dukes of hazzard needed. Don't have the skills or balls to do the fab work you guys did.
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:39 PM   #7
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I highly recommend open tilt trailer. My trailer is 84" wide from wheel well to wheel well, and even then, it feels tight.

From my build thread:

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In other news, I will have a tilt trailer, very similar to this one at the pic. I will place my order after November 1st (after which they mark it as 2016):
  • The manufacturer I use (Top Notch Trailers in WA) makes them extra-wide at 84" fender to fender (real 7'), and 102" overall width of the trailer. My Camaro with the Z/28 aero, wheels, and fender extensions (identical to a regular Z/28 in dimensions) requires about 82" width minimum for loading. So it's still snug, but enough.
  • The approach angle is around 10 degrees. The pic has 6" approach plates; my trailer will come with longer 10" approach plates to make it even easier.
  • It also comes with 4" drop axle for the best approach angle, and hinged fender to be able to open the driver's door, which could be a problem due to that drop axle.
  • After options (like radials), it costs about $3K. My former (non-tilt) trailer was at $2200 with similar options, but with 4" frame.
  • Speaking of which, you need at least 5" frame for the Camaro. As I mentioned before, my former flatbed trailer with 4" frame has visibly flexed at the tail.
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:50 PM   #8
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I highly recommend open tilt trailer. My trailer is 84" wide from wheel well to wheel well, and even then, it feels tight.

From my build thread:
I hope that works for you, was told with the Z/28 at stock ride hight, you can't go much past 6 degree to go on, but I did not buy there traler so.
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:57 PM   #9
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I hope that works for you, was told with the Z/28 at stock ride hight, you can't go much past 6 degree to go on, but I did not buy there traler so.
Race ramps are your friend:


I sold the trailer in pic, and my new tilt trailer will be manufactured in two weeks. We'll see if I can load with the upgraded approach plates, or if I will need to use my race ramps. If I need help, I'll first try simple small wood boards. If the help needed is small, they might do the trick.
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Race ramps are my friend, need the 7' long ones and they do more then the rear door.
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Race ramps are my friend, need the 7' long ones and they do more then the rear door.
I do have 2 sets of the following, which worked with every car so far:

Race Ramps Trailer & Loading Ramps (RR-TR-8XL)
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:02 AM   #12
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OP...your Z/28 will fit with about an inch to spare on each side as I have had my car in a trailer exactly like that one. You have to climb out of the window which is difficult. Just take your time and have someone guide you in and it will work.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:38 AM   #13
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I highly recommend open tilt trailer. My trailer is 84" wide from wheel well to wheel well, and even then, it feels tight.
I've already been down the open trailer route and would never go back, I like all my stuff locked up, secure and out of the elements plus and I don't like people to know what I'm hauling.

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OP...your Z/28 will fit with about an inch to spare on each side as I have had my car in a trailer exactly like that one. You have to climb out of the window which is difficult. Just take your time and have someone guide you in and it will work.
OK good, I'm going the winch route for 1 man loading.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:58 AM   #14
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I had to buy a wider trailer . . . mirrors did not fit through the door way.

The manual car I do winch in, but the auto SS typically drive in.

Use race ramps on the door way to reduce the approach angle, and I custom built raised rails with 2x6 and ply wood so that I could open the drivers door thought he 8' awning.
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