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Old 10-22-2013, 05:42 PM   #401
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Yep, go to page 12. It is hilarious. BaylorCamaro and Norm are putting up valiant resistance but ThePill is just losing his mind. If the Z/28 actually finds a sanctioning body that will allow it to run we might need to send someone to take all the sharp object out of ThePill's house. :-)
Yeah it's getting pretty ridiculous over there. He is hell bent on the Z/28 not being able to race ANYWHERE. Even if that were the case, look at the target market of who is (probably) going to be buying the Z/28. Most people won't even think about taking it to a track..


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So let me get this right. A respected member, or members, of Camaro5 are over on a Mustang site with the sole purpose of defending the Camaro? Isn't that the kind of thing that so many on this site complain about the Mustang guys doing over here? Seems very hypocritical to me.

As for thePil, I don't know who he is or why people on this site have issues with him but it seems a little immature to go out of your way to read his posts, let alone banter with him, on a site dedicated to the Mustang. Can't you guys see you are just feeding his ego?
IF you were to go over to that thread and read the posts you will see that I and others are not making outragious claims. Hell I'm not even that big of a fan of the Z/28 and that is clearly conveyed on my posts. I'm just trying to bring that thread back to reality. You cannot simplay say that "the Z/28 is a huge failure and cannot be raced anywhere"

I am over there not to banter with him, but it is refreshing reading non-jaded GM fanboy posts once and a while

thePill brings up fair points which I enjoy reading. HOWEVER his credibility is shot when he spews a bunch BS generalizations. (My opinion)

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Norm and Baylor Camaro are not punks acting like idiots on the Mustang site. They are a counter balance and correct misunderstandings.
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Enthusiast forums are like a local bar. There is nothing wrong with spirited discussion. We welcome members from other brands here on C5. The caveat is, they are expected to comport themselves as guests in our house. When the big power GT500 was released I was quoted on another forum, I think it was SVT, a number of times and raked over the coals. I registered for the forum to clarify a number of mis-conceptions, but only after asking the moderators if I could post as a guest even though I am a vendor. The moderators did a great job. They actually supported me.

Forum give and take executed with respect is a win win
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:13 PM   #402
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If the unmentionable Ford fanboy is bashing the Z/28 that in of itself makes it a success. If he hates it that's a BIG HURRAY for Camaro lovers!
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:41 PM   #403
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what does the list include if it runs that 6 seconds faster on a dry track?
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:14 PM   #404
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what does the list include if it runs that 6 seconds faster on a dry track?
What do you mean?
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:37 PM   #405
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like how Top Gear gives +/- depending on the weather
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:52 PM   #406
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27. Ferrari 599 GTO 7:28.00 166 '10 670 / 1495
28. Porsche Carrera GT 7:28.71 165 '03 612 / 1380 Marc Basse
29. Porsche 911 Turbo (991) 7:29.00 165 '13 520 / 1595
30. Mercedes SLS AMG GT 7:30.00 165 '12 591 / 1620
31. Porsche 911 GT2 7:31.00 164 '07 530 / 1440 Walter Rohrl
32. Porsche 911 Turbo S 7:32.00 164 '10 530 / 1585 Walter
33. Pagani Zonda F 7:33.00 164 '05 602 / 1371
34. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:33.00 164 '10 450 / 1400
35. Koenigsegg CCX 7:33.55 164 '06 806 / 1456 Marc Basse
36. Koenigsegg CCR 7:34.00 163 '04 806 / 1418
37. Audi R8 GT 7:34.00 163 '10 560 / 1520 Horst von Saurma
38. Nissan GT-R Spec-V 7:34.46 163 '09 492 / 1680
39. RUF RT12 7:35.00 163 '05 650 / 1573
40. Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 7:37.47 162 '13 507 / 1702
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:24 AM   #407
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3 seconds from a GTR impresses me
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:48 AM   #408
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I just watched the video on my 60" Sharp Smart HDTV and it was almost like sitting in the car, except no G-forces but the exhaust sound on my sound system was great too.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:22 PM   #409
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in HD gloryyyyy
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:54 PM   #410
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:35 AM   #411
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:47 AM   #412
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I thought this was funny.
looks better without the chevy badge
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:06 AM   #413
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I have seen the Z28 rims in pictures of random chevy cars at the SEMA show but now I cant find the pics
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:15 AM   #414
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Of all the Mustang guys, where's Norm?...lol...
Just a bit late to this party.

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Why hello there. The Spec V wasnt the only 2009 model gtr smart ass. The fastest lap by the first model year was 7:26. Have you ever driven a GTR? You probably call it a robot car because that is what everyone with a slower car says to make themselves feel better
Speaking only for myself, there is the annoying idea of having to give too much credit to the electronics. Maybe I'm greed or old-fashioned about this, but I'd really prefer to extract my cars' performance by virtue of whatever skill level I possess than give most of the credit for a hero lap to a bunch of silicon wafers and bits/bytes of programming.



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Too many variables, here, to establish any sort of concrete conclusions, other than this RWD car has laid down a pretty damned admirable time. It's NOT about the time, it's going to be ALL about the driving experience. Driver input. Driver control. Driver reward.
This ↑↑↑ .


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What The Antichrist is to God, is what ThePill is to the Camaro, lol.

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I have never heard anybody that is as obsessed with Camaro bashing as he is. I'm willing to bet even the Mustang guys are tired of hearing from him.
Ya think??

I can deal with anything that's technically correct or at least defensible. The vitriolic tone and the overstated differences, not so well.



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Yep... them suckers can't even keep up with a lowly 1LE in the turns!
The 1LE does make a good "bogey" for those of us with Mustangs and who favor roads that would rather not stay straight for more than a few hundred feet at a time.



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temp is probably a big one. although im not sure how hot it gets out there.
You should expect temperature to be at least as important a factor with R-compounds as with the G:2 Goodyears that are found on the ZL1 and 1LE.



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So let me get this right. A respected member, or members, of Camaro5 are over on a Mustang site with the sole purpose of defending the Camaro? Isn't that the kind of thing that so many on this site complain about the Mustang guys doing over here? Seems very hypocritical to me.
As a car enthusiast first, some (maybe a lot) of that Assault thread is an assault on enthusiasts as much as it is against the specific car.



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I did not say I was not happy with the car being released I'm ecstatic, but I am unhappy they decided to release a lap time that does not represent the cars full potential
The more I think about this, the better I like it that conditions were not ideal. Leaves a little mystery.


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EDIT My guess is the 1LE would be a solid low 8 minute car at The Ring. Best run I would say the car might dip below 8 minutes but just barely.
About what I'd guess. Think maybe I did a few months ago.


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Old 11-12-2013, 08:03 AM   #415
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^ thats alot of quotes
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:17 PM   #416
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^ thats alot of quotes
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Old 12-11-2013, 07:12 PM   #417
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:08 AM   #418
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I didn't realize the Trofeo tires have a 40 treadwear rating. Makes the 7:37 all the more impressive given the cold + damp conditions...
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:18 PM   #419
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I didn't realize the Trofeo tires have a 40 treadwear rating. Makes the 7:37 all the more impressive given the cold + damp conditions...
Screw the tires...

...those wheels!
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:37 PM   #420
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And that is what $75k looks like
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:50 PM   #421
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It just hit me I have been looking at a 1LE/ZL1 steering wheel, I could get a Z28 wheel!
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:39 PM   #422
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Did GM finally hire a pro driver? Guessing by the time I doubt it. 3 seconds at the Ring isn't a big deal guys.

instead of hiring a pro dirver, it's always this GM engineer wannabe race car driver doing the laps for weeks on end. Meanwhile Chrysler took a bone stock Viper out of a museum and handed it over to a pro driver and he smoked the ZR1 Ring time with like 2 days of testing. HIRE A PRO DRIVER!
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Did GM finally hire a pro driver? Guessing by the time I doubt it. 3 seconds at the Ring isn't a big deal guys.

instead of hiring a pro dirver, it's always this GM engineer wannabe race car driver doing the laps for weeks on end. Meanwhile Chrysler took a bone stock Viper out of a museum and handed it over to a pro driver and he smoked the ZR1 Ring time with like 2 days of testing. HIRE A PRO DRIVER!

Hate to burst your bubble, but the guys who drive the ring for GM are RACE CAR DRIVERS, some of them just happen to be engineers too.
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Yeah I doubt a multi-billion dollar car company lets an engineer who knows the tech of the car drive the car...

...I am sure they have professional drivers whose job is ONLY to drive
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Well I hate to break it to you but Aaron Link is a badas driver and a GM engineer and I bet that multi billion dollar car company gets a lot more input from a driver with the engineering background who will have more in depth understanding of perFormance dynamics then even a pRofessional drivers. It is like having aprofesional driver and professional crew cheif in one.
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