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Old 10-15-2013, 10:34 PM   #267
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It's lower to the ground... much more likely to get road damage
Harsh Ride: Like riding on a go kart.... try it for a trip somewhere.

Other than that... I guess you can turn up the radio volume in the 28 in order to compensate for all the road noise due to no insulation.
The ride in the Z/28 should not be harsh. We have run 305/30/19s since 2009 with coilovers and spring rates up to 14kg front and rear. The 4kg coils might work with full slicks, but were too hard for anything close t a street tire. Running 10kg and 12 kg coils with the 305s delivers a ride that is surprising civil. The spring rates in the Z/28 have not been released, but my guess is they are lower probably close to our 8kg front and 10kg rear base coilover setup or a bit under. The special DSSV Z/28 tuned strut valving addresses harshness with well tuned high and low speed damping. The ZL1 with MRC will ride better in touring mode, but the ZL1 in full track mode shouldn't be all that different than the Z/28.

As for road noise, there are quite a few ZL1 owners that pull the exhaust fuse or change out the exhaust because they think it too quiet. Having the option to be as quiet as the ZL1 is a plus.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:37 PM   #268
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You can take those six seconds to the bank when the Z/28 is back at the Ring.
I will hold you to that! lol. Never seen you post something that was not accurate. That puts it around 10 seconds faster than the ZL1. Friggin impressive, and actually about what I expected for 70-75K Camaro. Rock on Chevy!
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:43 PM   #269
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It's lower to the ground... much more likely to get road damage
Harsh Ride: Like riding on a go kart.... try it for a trip somewhere.

Other than that... I guess you can turn up the radio volume in the 28 in order to compensate for all the road noise due to no insulation.
Well my 1970 Chevelle had no insulation, no sound deadening, no A/C, no radio, warn out shocks, warn out springs, shot bushings, no functioning interior lights and flooded if I punched it, so I think I could handle a slightly harsh ride.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:43 PM   #270
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I will hold you to that! lol. Never seen you post something that was not accurate. That puts it around 10 seconds faster than the ZL1. Friggin impressive, and actually about what I expected for 70-75K Camaro. Rock on Chevy!
Thank you for the kind words.

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Telemetry. Until the car actually does it, it's just marketing hype and speculation.
No speculation. No Hype. No, I can't say any more.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:09 PM   #272
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Thank you for the kind words.



No speculation. No Hype. No, I can't say any more.

No one here but us. Comon Pete!
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nearly got away from him a couple of times there.....DAYUM that had to be fun!!!
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nearly got away from him a couple of times there.....DAYUM that had to be fun!!!
I say we Pedderise Mike Lee's Z/28 and take it to the ring. I'll do the setup and suspension. You can do the driving. We'll send our bill to Mike Lee.

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I say we Pedderise Mike Lee's Z/28 and take it to the ring. I'll do the setup and suspension. You can do the driving. We'll send our bill to Mike Lee.

Excellent! Mike owes me a ride! lol
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:15 PM   #276
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Well my 1970 Chevelle had no insulation, no sound deadening, no A/C, no radio, warn out shocks, warn out springs, shot bushings, no functioning interior lights and flooded if I punched it, so I think I could handle a slightly harsh ride.
Yes, sound like you are expert harsh rider!!
Just don't try to tell Miley what to do!
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Excellent! Mike owes me a ride! lol
The heck with the ride. I'll flip you the keys
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:22 PM   #278
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lol I could not bring myself to flip him my keys, I had just received delivery. Mike was the first to ride in my Z besides my kids. But I will take the keys in a heart beat!
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:26 PM   #279
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He got into the throttle a little too soon between the Carrosel and the next corner and I bet he puckered just a little. I was surprised at the lack of traction in the first sections of the track. But, if it was raining in one section, the track was probably wet in other areas as well. Overall, that's an awesome run for a heavy Camaro and if you subtracted an estimated 6 seconds for the wet conditions, the Z/28 is running in the midst of some fairly formidable company.
In the driver's defense, there are not many places at the Nordschleife where you can have an off without seriously damaging the car. I don't know any other track that requires the same level of commitment to get a fast lap. During my visits there I saw three cars totaled before lunch on one damp Sunday morning!

Also, those tires must be unbelievably squirrelly in such cold and damp conditions. I have to say that, on average, he maintained a high level of commitment during the lap. I agree with your assessment that the entire track was likely damp.

Some have said they should hire a hot-shoe local to drive the car. While I'd love to see Patrick Simon (he used to hold the lap record for street cars) drive the car, these people don't have the same dedication to the program that a GM employee has. I don't know how many prototypes they have running around, but they may not be able to afford crashing any at this point -- and hot shoes tend to crash every now and then.
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I say we Pedderise Mike Lee's Z/28 and take it to the ring. I'll do the setup and suspension. You can do the driving. We'll send our bill to Mike Lee.

DONE!!!

And Mike said he wouldn't mind at all if we did some hot laps taking along several single passengers one at a time... Looks like we'll be out there for a while...
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