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Old 10-14-2013, 10:07 PM   #101
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That takes some guts to drive this track at speed with so many blind turns and dips.

I can't imagine going nearly 160 in the rain.

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Old 10-14-2013, 10:09 PM   #102
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Ever seen Tiff Needel do 200 mph in a Bentley around an oval in the rain? That's about as scary as this.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:10 PM   #103
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Flippin VERY cool. Shows how awesome both these beasts are, and where their strengths are. TYVM for putting that together.
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Thanks for that....one request, though....Flip 'em the other way...I'd like to hear the ZL-1...lol...no biggie, thanks again.
I thought about that (I'm obviously partial to the ZL1, lol) however the audio in the Z/28 video is much louder than the audio in the ZL1 video. The Z/28 makes the ZL1 sound like a Prius

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That is blisteringly fast!!!!
Baylor, well done on the overlay.
The Z/28 is around 6 seconds ahead of the ZL1 when he hits the start of the last straight. Then the ZL1's 13mph advantage catches it up a bit.
Maybe it's just me, but that's damned impressive.
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ZL1 driver never lifted. Reached 172 mph.
z/28 driver entered back straight slower. Lifted several times. reached 160 mph at 6131 rpms. (Approx.)
I will say that the rate of acceleration on the ZL1 was stronger.
The Z/28 is a 7:35 car all day long in the dry.

I need to go back to the two videos and see how much farther ahead the Z/28 was before the rain started which was before the back straight.
Yup. It shows you how the ZL1 pulls harder on the top end, especially in that long straight.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:14 PM   #104
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The Z28 had 10 second on the ZL1 at 6m21s. Then the rain starts just before the long back stretch where the ZL1 gets some time back.

The gap is deeper then 3.8sec.
After reviewing the overlay, the Z28 should be able to crack the 7:30.00
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:22 PM   #105
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Awesome time and win for team Camaro but I think we shouldn't compare the Z/28 and ZL1 cause they are design for different purpose but anyway a good addition to the family. I'll get one used from somebody that didn't know what they were getting them self in to and save some money on a track car.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:25 PM   #106
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well I downloaded the best Julia Child Crow recipe as I am disappointed in the time. Considering they have had the car there at least twice as far as we know and it was a closed track...I'm surprised they showed a rain lap...this makes me think they have something better...so I will eat that big steamin bowl if a better time is not gotten.

He knows exactly where he needs to be in segment times...the display was blurred...so he tried even harder in the end in the wet. Who was the driver?

Do all you people now concur the car can't break in to the 20's?

and if this time stands I now predict 70k tops.

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Old 10-14-2013, 10:39 PM   #107
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well I downloaded the best Julia Child Crow recipe as I am disappointed in the time. Considering they have had the car there at least twice as far as we know and it was a closed track...I'm surprised they showed a rain lap...this makes me think they have something better...so I will eat that big steamin bowl if a better time is not gotten.

He knows exactly where he needs to be in segment times...the display was blurred...so he tried even harder in the end in the wet. Who was the driver?

Do all you people now concur the car can't break in to the 20's?

and if this time stands I now predict 70k tops.
$64,995 and it will appreciate in value.

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Old 10-14-2013, 10:41 PM   #108
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Smh at some of the posts here. Comparing the ZL1 in the dry to the Z28 in the wet is not fair at all. Also on the last straight away the Z28 is not flat out. He held back. He was at 6k on the rpms and held it there. The red line is 7k on that motor and could have hit 170 on that last straight.
Also watch the video of the Z28 and the ZL1 back to back. The Z28 is so much more balanced and smoother through the corners.
I have raced in the rain and dry on the same day on the same track in the same car. You lose a ton of time even in damp conditions. I would put money on the Z28 could get into the 7:20's
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:43 PM   #109
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:49 PM   #110
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Great run. Too bad there was rain towards the end. It will probably run 7:33-7:35 in dry weather.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:54 PM   #111
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I'm starting to believe this is a Mark's Ruse! lol (Reuse)
Is there a dry run on video to come later...? humm...
This run deserved to be posted first.
They are showing the world's best sport car manufacturer that we can beat you in the wet.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:59 PM   #112
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Well it didn't exactly finish where it started did anyone see this or just me. Time would have really be in the 7:40 + range if they stopped the clock where it started.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:00 PM   #113
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Before the final long straight the Z/28 was almost 10 seconds ahead.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:06 PM   #114
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Before the final long straight the Z/28 was almost 10 seconds ahead.

I think the driver took it easy down the final straight, he hit about 160 early in the lap (at 1.09 mark) and accelerated there very quickly going uphill, but seemed to take a while to get there on the long flat straight at the end. I've seen videos of SS's going faster than that on mile runs.

I think its got another 5 seconds in it in dry conditions.
Im unsure why they would release this time when run on a half wet track.

Its impressive, either way.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:13 PM   #115
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9 Second lead, right before the rain starts.



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Old 10-14-2013, 11:21 PM   #116
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Well it didn't exactly finish where it started did anyone see this or just me. Time would have really be in the 7:40 + range if they stopped the clock where it started.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:29 PM   #117
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I look at it this way, in the top 54 all time best laps, surrounded by cars costing well over 100 k are 2 Camaros. A few Vettes, ZR1s and Z06s. Pretty damn good for Chevy and both Camaros
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:37 PM   #118
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I look at it this way, in the top 54 all time best laps, surrounded by cars costing well over 100 k are 2 Camaros. A few Vettes, ZR1s and Z06s. Pretty damn good for Chevy and both Camaros
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:38 PM   #119
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9 Second lead, right before the rain starts.



It's also just before the long straight where the ZL1 would have clawed back some time regardless of weather.

2 things I would like to see:

1) Z28 running the ring in same conditions as the ZL1 pass

2) ZL1 running the ring with the wheel/tire combo that the Z28 has.

Unfortunately we won't see either.

But either way, 2 AWESOME CARS and a great time to be a Camaro owner
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:49 PM   #120
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Too bad that the car is not "legal" in respected organizations... Kind of pointless if you ask me
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:06 AM   #121
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It's also just before the long straight where the ZL1 would have clawed back some time regardless of weather.

2 things I would like to see:

1) Z28 running the ring in same conditions as the ZL1 pass

2) ZL1 running the ring with the wheel/tire combo that the Z28 has.

Unfortunately we won't see either.

But either way, 2 AWESOME CARS and a great time to be a Camaro owner

Agree.

Comparing the Z's IMO is pointless.

Two different drivers, two different lines, two different sets of conditions. I believe both of these cars are capable of even faster times, but in the end these are one name, Camaro, posting lap times even or better than so called "supercars".

I'm just very impressed with what Chevrolet has done with these cars, in an era where hybrids rule.
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:17 AM   #122
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Sweet!!!! ZL1 Z/28 SS RS LTs.....their all great cars!! Way to go Chevy!!
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:21 AM   #123
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Yeah, is it possible it couldn't pull the hill? 6000rpm should be a sweet spot power-wise. Was he holding back?
Noticed he had to pedal it a bit before the straight, but only a few turns.
I'd guess 7:35 in the dry, but who knows.
The ZL1 has more power up top, and weight isn't a huge factor at 160mph, mostly drag and HP.
80hp is a big deal.
Anyway, killer time. They should be proud.
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:26 AM   #124
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I'm also a little disappointed with the time. I think the 305s on the front did most the work. I wanted to see it beat the GTR. If Nissan can do it, why can't we?

No point getting into a "zl1 modded vs z28", etc, war. they're the same platform, so it hardly matters. z28 brakes and tires on a zl1? how about a supercharger on the z28? etc, etc. its kind of never ending.

End of the day, the ZL1 will still be a better street car, Z28 will be a better track. You can make the zl1 a better track car at the cost of streetability, and make the z28 more streetable by making it less trackable. period.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:06 AM   #125
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Pretty Amazing Time considering the light rain after the 6 min mark. I bet this was a special video trip and they took the best timed video from a series of vids. If the track was dry, I bet it would beat 7:35.

Great Job GM !! Dodge has a few dogs in the Nurburgring race - Where's Ford???
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