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Old 10-15-2013, 12:52 PM   #18
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:03 PM   #19
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I thought the 1LE with its 3.91 gears overcame the deficit in a 1/4 drag race? Yeah it will still be a drivers race, but I wouldn't give the Mustang win automatically.
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I thought the 1LE with its 3.91 gears overcame the deficit in a 1/4 drag race? Yeah it will still be a drivers race, but I wouldn't give the Mustang win automatically.
No, it just became a driver's race finally. Regular SS is slower than the GT, the 1le with the good driver make it a driver's race as I stated.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:06 PM   #21
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No, it just became a driver's race finally. Regular SS is slower than the GT, the 1le with the good driver make it a driver's race as I stated.
That's what I was alluding to. Before the 1LE, the 5.0 Mustang with track pack was quicker meaning it was his race to lose. Now they are pretty much equal so it's just a drivers race.
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:30 PM   #22
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:00 PM   #23
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:17 PM   #24
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Yo dawgs he be 250 with ballz tho lol but for real you shuld run him and if he wins be like yo I love da juice lol then run a supercharger at 8 pounds and be like siiike! Running the blower dowg on low boosts
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:50 PM   #25
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Yo dawgs he be 250 with ballz tho lol but for real you shuld run him and if he wins be like yo I love da juice lol then run a supercharger at 8 pounds and be like siiike! Running the blower dowg on low boosts


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Old 10-15-2013, 10:15 PM   #27
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:15 AM   #28
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I just want to know when 5.0 vs LS3 became a drivers race? Most of the latest 5.0 vs LS3 arguments on here were quite one sided with everyone agreeing that the 5.0 was quicker. Now it seems as if every thread includes some lame Youtube reference and stories of lopsided victories. Neither car has gotten significantly faster/slower in the last year so is it fair to say that the bullshit has just gotten thicker?

I've been quite the GMFanboy (45 of them) and my last car was a 2012 Camaro SS. But I still won't tell anyone my LS3 was quicker, faster or could launch better than my 2014 GT as it'd be a lie.
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:01 PM   #29
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I just want to know when 5.0 vs LS3 became a drivers race? Most of the latest 5.0 vs LS3 arguments on here were quite one sided with everyone agreeing that the 5.0 was quicker. Now it seems as if every thread includes some lame Youtube reference and stories of lopsided victories. Neither car has gotten significantly faster/slower in the last year so is it fair to say that the bullshit has just gotten thicker?

I've been quite the GMFanboy (45 of them) and my last car was a 2012 Camaro SS. But I still won't tell anyone my LS3 was quicker, faster or could launch better than my 2014 GT as it'd be a lie.
We are comparing more than just the engines. The 1LE has different gearing (3.91) than the SS you had. That is part of what makes this more of a driver's race now. Enjoy your Mustang. They are nice cars.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:03 PM   #30
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I thought the 1LE with its 3.91 gears overcame the deficit in a 1/4 drag race? Yeah it will still be a drivers race, but I wouldn't give the Mustang win automatically.
Not correct.

The 3.91 in the 1LE is offset by the different gearing in the TR6060. combined with a hard sidewall road race tire and the fact that it must shift into 4th to complete the 1/4 mile make the SS (non 1LE) better for drag racing. (stock vs stock)
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Not correct.

The 3.91 in the 1LE is offset by the different gearing in the TR6060. combined with a hard sidewall road race tire and the fact that it must shift into 4th to complete the 1/4 mile make the SS (non 1LE) better for drag racing. (stock vs stock)
Hmm.. good to know. What mph does 3rd top out on each?

Well looking at that Camaro vs Mustang video, the 1LE did a 12.7 sec & trapped at almost 112mph. That is better than most stock SS cars tested in the car rags.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:32 PM   #32
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:33 PM   #33
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No. Do the math. The 3.91 in the TR6060 will still have a steeper final drive then the SS. Also the side wall is not nearly as important as the softer tire compound.
No....did the math and stand behind what I stated Look at first gear. The SS has a numerically larger gear (although very close) which will aid when launching. 60ft is very important to the E/T (More math fun: Every .1 reduction from the 60ft is worth -.2 on your ET). You also cannot discount the fact that the SS only requires 2 gears chnages to run the 1/4 and the 1LE requires 3....The 1LE will hit the limiter before the traps in 3rd gear and it is slower than when shifting into 4th...(I tried a couple times just to see) 12.991 was my best E/T stock with a bunch of 13.0s

Here you Go:

MM6 w/ 3.91 (Stock 1LE)
1st gear ratio: 2.66 10.40
2nd gear ratio: 1.78 6.96
3rd gear ratio: 1.30 5.09
4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.91
5th gear ratio: 0.74 2.90
6th gear ratio: 0.50 1.96

M10 w/ 3.45 (Stock SS)
1st gear ratio: 3.01 10.38
2nd gear ratio: 2.07 7.14
3rd gear ratio: 1.43 4.93
4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.45
5th gear ratio: 0.84 2.90
6th gear ratio: 0.57 1.97

Tires: Ha, I have driven both a stock SS and my stock 1LE.....The tires are VERY different. The stock SS 275 hook way better in the same conditions than the 285 Goodyear G2... The GY require a ton of heat before they work...

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Old 10-16-2013, 04:28 PM   #34
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Oh boy! Ok so what's your point? Are you comparing the overdrives? Which gears do you spend the most time in when drag racing? If you guessed second & third you'd be correct. Soooo since you can't drive or figure out how to prep your tires for launch, tire compound has no bearing on traction what so ever??????Every hear of a burnout when visiting the dragstrip? Drag radials & slicks require alot of heat also. But they work so well because of their sticky rubber compound. Not their amount of sidewall.
I guess since you want to go personal I can play...

.....Says the guy that barely breaks 12s in a modded automatic SS when stock SS have been as deep as 12.7s...Talk about not being able to drive an AUTOMATIC!!!!

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