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Old 10-18-2013, 08:50 AM   #51
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Since this has turned into a mash up of gear ratios and such someone should do a chart for the 13/14 GT Track Pack. The MT-82 ratios alone are amazing and even more so with 3.73's behind it. Shifting into 4th in the 1LE during the 1/4 is nothing.

The 3:73 paired with the MT-82 are pretty sweet. The gears are very short though. I was shifting into 4th right at the traps in the 1/8th with my stock 13
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Since this has turned into a mash up of gear ratios and such someone should do a chart for the 13/14 GT Track Pack. The MT-82 ratios alone are amazing and even more so with 3.73's behind it. Shifting into 4th in the 1LE during the 1/4 is nothing.
Ask and you shall receive.

Taking even a half second still matters to the clocks. That dog-leg move to go from 4th to 5th would hurt more.


On edit, the 763 revs/mile for Tire 4 is what's listed for a Mercedes-Benz tire in 255/40-19. The Mustang's 255/40-19 does not give that information, and 763 looks a little low. So I used an average of the other revs/mile. It's no more than 1% (1 mph in 100) off even if 763 is really correct for the Mustang Track Pak tire.


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Old 10-19-2013, 06:17 PM   #54
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:06 PM   #55
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A little hint abnout the track pack cars. if they are 100% bone stock they have serious wheel hop issues. mine did and it was brutal. my camaro did too but not as bad.
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Old 10-19-2013, 10:44 PM   #56
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13.36 in a ls3 is just bad driving not the cars problem! 12.7s in a stock auto 5.0 is because the car is doing the work for you! So good job going faster when it takes your driving out of equation.
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:08 AM   #57
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13.36 in a ls3 is just bad driving not the cars problem! 12.7s in a stock auto 5.0 is because the car is doing the work for you! So good job going faster when it takes your driving out of equation.
Actually the 13.36 is due to high ambient temps and high humidity. I drag race quite often and know what i'm doing. my buddy was racing same day with his SS camaro with L99 and was several tenths slower. you tell me what you think a stock LS3 should be capable of at 97 degrees and 80% humidity.
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Actually the 13.36 is due to high ambient temps and high humidity. I drag race quite often and know what i'm doing. my buddy was racing same day with his SS camaro with L99 and was several tenths slower. you tell me what you think a stock LS3 should be capable of at 97 degrees and 80% humidity.
Really, so with all the drag racing you claim to do...the only time you ran your camaro was in terrible racing conditions? What did you have it for a month? What do you think a 5.0 does in the same bad conditions, high 12s Low 13s to high 12s is pretty normal for both cars, my car ran 12.60s @112 at 2500ft with just a set of headers on it, not even tuned for the headers or a intake. No way your stock 5.0 is pulling 12.7s at 97 degrees, so you have no comparision.
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Old 10-20-2013, 02:11 AM   #59
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Really, so with all the drag racing you claim to do...the only time you ran your camaro was in terrible racing conditions? What did you have it for a month? What do you think a 5.0 does in the same bad conditions, high 12s Low 13s to high 12s is pretty normal for both cars, my car ran 12.60s @112 at 2500ft with just a set of headers on it, not even tuned for the headers or a intake. No way your stock 5.0 is pulling 12.7s at 97 degrees, so you have no comparision.
funny thing, mid 90's temps with dealer plates still on the car i ran 13.0 in my mustang.. dollar for dollar the mustang 5.0 will beat the camaro everytime provided the driver is on his game. I only took the camaro to the track the one time because the one time i tried the launch assist it broke 2 of the springs that surround the input shaft spline on the cluitch disc. The camaro may be a nice car but it doesnt impress me in performance or build quality. last 5 years i have bought a new car every year and I only bought one camaro and i am on my THIRD mustang 5.0. I've always been a diehard GM guy but until they build a better product they wont get my money.
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I beat many 5.0 autos at the track with my m6 when it was stock. So your wrong!
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I beat many 5.0 autos at the track with my m6 when it was stock. So your wrong!

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a 5.0 mustang with just a tune will run low low twelves. I'm not a Camaro hater but the truth is dollar for dollar Mod for Mod the mustang is a faster car at the dragstrip. I think GM will fix that with the next generation camaro and if so i will probably buy one.
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What do you think a 5.0 does in the same bad conditions, high 12s Low 13s to high 12s is pretty normal for both cars, my car ran 12.60s @112 at 2500ft with just a set of headers on it, not even tuned for the headers or a intake. No way your stock 5.0 is pulling 12.7s at 97 degrees, so you have no comparision.

Well in my 13 M6 on a 98 degree day I was pulling 8.20'2-8.21's BONE STOCK down to the tire. So to say that a 5.0 wont pull those times on a hot day is not true!
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Well in my 13 M6 on a 98 degree day I was pulling 8.20'2-8.21's BONE STOCK down to the tire. So to say that a 5.0 wont pull those times on a hot day is not true!
I think if a guy cant learn to launch an M6 with just the right amount of tire spin and no wheel hop then they are faster than an A6. with your times i would guess humidity was pretty low that day. my biggest complaint with the stock track pack car was in first and second at about 4000 rpm the back tires would break lose and the car would wheel hop. if the 1LE camaro can keep from spinning bad or having wheelhop he would probably beat it
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a 5.0 mustang with just a tune will run low low twelves. I'm not a Camaro hater but the truth is dollar for dollar Mod for Mod the mustang is a faster car at the dragstrip. I think GM will fix that with the next generation camaro and if so i will probably buy one.
You think? You mean you hope lol....
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Low 12 with a tune, ya were at? Cuz I have seen more then my fair share of 5.0s not one of them will run low 12s with just a tune. I seen plenty of them run low 12s and everyone of them had tires with boltons and a tune to get there! I talk with these guys at the track and I know what mods they have and the times they run. If its so easy to rub low 12s with just a tune, by all means go do it and prove me wrong. See I actually race, and see what cars run at the track and with what work done. I don't base my points on some jack a$$ you tube videos!
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Low 12 with a tune, ya were at? Cuz I have seen more then my fair share of 5.0s not one of them will run low 12s with just a tune. I seen plenty of them run low 12s and everyone of them had tires with boltons and a tune to get there! I talk with these guys at the track and I know what mods they have and the times they run. If its so easy to rub low 12s with just a tune, by all means go do it and prove me wrong. See I actually race, and see what cars run at the track and with what work done. I don't base my points on some jack a$$ you tube videos!
I ran a 12.32@115 with gt500 mufflers pypes x pipe and ford racing tune. Sean from AED ran an 11.7xx@116 with tune only on tires.
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Low 12 with a tune, ya were at? Cuz I have seen more then my fair share of 5.0s not one of them will run low 12s with just a tune. I seen plenty of them run low 12s and everyone of them had tires with boltons and a tune to get there! I talk with these guys at the track and I know what mods they have and the times they run. If its so easy to rub low 12s with just a tune, by all means go do it and prove me wrong. See I actually race, and see what cars run at the track and with what work done. I don't base my points on some jack a$$ you tube videos!
well you seem to know everything eh? here is a picture of 38 time slips from this season alone mr Smart Camaro guy. i have seen in person a stock 5.0 mustang with nothing more than a Lund tune run a 12.17 on stock P zero tires. oh and one of those youtube videos you're ragging on is of me in my 2011 running a 12.80 with a .010 reaction time

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What does your 12.80 have anything to do with running low 12s with nothing but a tune? So your car will pick up .6 in the 1/4 with just a tune, please go do it. That's one hell of a tune lol
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What does your 12.80 have anything to do with running low 12s with nothing but a tune? So your car will pick up .6 in the 1/4 with just a tune, please go do it. That's one hell of a tune lol
as a matter of fact with some break in miles and a tune they do pickup that much. a tune isnt just engine perameters it's also transmission shift points and pressures. Fords stock tune is very conservative in the auto equipped Mustangs. i dont expect a closed minded person like yourself to believe it and that's fine. you can get your education the hard way at the track. oh and that 12.80 was the first pass ever in that car with what i believe was less than 600 miles on the car. it went on to run 12.70's that day
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What does your 12.80 have anything to do with running low 12s with nothing but a tune? So your car will pick up .6 in the 1/4 with just a tune, please go do it. That's one hell of a tune lol
Most of the low 12s I have witnessed were 5.0s with tune, x-pipe, and DRs. While not solely tune only it is impressive to say the least as to how little the 5.0 needs to reach high 11s to low 12s. Bang for the buck I think you would be hard pressed to beat the 11/13 5.0 automatic car add some bolt-ons and run at the 1/4.
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They respond well to an X pipe and a tune, tires are the icing on the cake. That's allot more then just a tune like this guy claims. It just kills me when people think all I need is a tuned 5.0 to run low 12s and in reality that's just not true! His car runs strong stock, but there just as many if not more that are stuck in the 13s. I see it all the time, just like te 392 cars! Your car ran a great stock time, and I don't know if its my tracks or what but the fastest 392 I seen was from Modern Muscle at Byron! He was 12.8s all day at 107 and that was the only one I have ever seen even break into the 12s, all the rest I seen low 13s with SRTs in the high 13s.

My only thing is, I know all of these cars can run some great times, it's been done! But it's just not as easy as buying a 5.0 and putting a tune on it! You know that first hand, there are a few guys running 11s with Bolton camaros and yet both of us were stuck in the 12s! My issue will be solved in 2 weeks with th400!
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My only thing is, I know all of these cars can run some great times, it's been done! But it's just not as easy as buying a 5.0 and putting a tune on it! You know that first hand, there are a few guys running 11s with Bolton camaros and yet both of us were stuck in the 12s! My issue will be solved in 2 weeks with th400!
Your correct with my 5.0 and a Ford Pro-Cal tune the best I got was 13:07 with the car, there were issues with launch and shifting, but that car was a long way off from low 12s.

Congrats on making the move to the TH400 I can't wait to see the results,
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The 5.0 is capable If the person actually knows how to drive the car down the track. Example me and a guy i know had similarly optioned 5.0's his was a 12 mine 13. I was very consistant with 8.2's stock, he was very inconsistant with 8.8-9.2's stock. we both added 555r's everything els was stock. i was at 7.9 all night he was in the 8.6-8.8 range. Driver seems to be the main diffreance in if these cars will run low to mid 12's or low 13's
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