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Old 07-22-2009, 06:13 PM   #1
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Exclamation New OnStar capability: Remote Engine Block

I think this question has been asked in this forum, and until now, OnStar did not have this capability.

http://www.freep.com/article/2009072...022/1002/rss02

A car thief on Monday morning in West Bloomfield was one of the first to discover OnStar’s newest trick: Remote Ignition Block. The capability, which was announced today, went into effect late Friday and allows a General Motors’ OnStar adviser to prevent a subscriber’s stolen vehicle from restarting once the ignition is turned off.

“This capability will not only help authorities recover stolen vehicles, but can also prevent dangerous high speed pursuits from starting,” GM said in a statement.

Chet Huber, OnStar president, told the Free Press this morning that the company has already used the service seven times since late Friday.

“We can reach – from the wireless connection we have with the car — into it and disable the ignition system,” he said. “So far, we’re seven for seven.”

The first time was for a vehicle in New Jersey. One of those seven times included a vehicle stolen in West Bloomfield, he said.

The West Bloomfield call came around 8:45 a.m. Monday.

“They did recover the car,” Huber said. “It was a 2009 Buick Enclave.”

The capability comes as an evolution of services previously offered by OnStar. The subscriber service already allows for pinpointing stolen vehicles’ locations and remotely slowing a stolen vehicle to idle speed.

OnStar receives about 600 requests a month for help with stolen vehicles from subscribers and has helped in more than 28,000 requests over the past decade, the company said.

The new Remote Ignition Block is available on more than 2 million select 2009 and 2010 model year GM vehicles in the United States and Canada, the company said.

“This is the next logical step,” Huber said.

The process for using the remote block includes subscribers reporting the vehicle stolen to law enforcement officials and requesting assistance from OnStar. The police provide confirmation to OnStar that the vehicle is stolen. The block can be reversed once it is confirmed the vehicle has been recovered.

“What we’ve found is that nothing gets better with time in these stolen vehicle situations. The sooner you can intervene … the more likely you are going to be to recover the vehicle,” Huber said.
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:18 PM   #2
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This is a brilliant selling point for GM vehicles.
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:34 PM   #3
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This is a brilliant selling point for GM vehicles.
Yeah it is! I would love to watch a thief bragging to his friends about stealing a car, only to not be able to start it. LOL!
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:44 PM   #4
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as hes trying to figure out why it wont start....the boys in blue arrive to hand him a well deserved boot-massage.
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:50 PM   #5
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I will be keeping Onstar. BTW, has a 2010 Camaro been stolen yet?
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:52 PM   #6
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Is this feature available with the new 2010 camaro?
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:53 PM   #7
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that is pretty cool.
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:27 PM   #8
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This is all great stuff, but I wonder; what would happen if the thief removes the shark antenna or simply covers it with aluminum foil in an attempt to keep OnStar from communicating with the car?
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:46 PM   #9
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Is this feature available with the new 2010 camaro?
It is standard equipment on the new Camaro
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:58 PM   #10
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what would happen if the thief removes the shark antenna or simply covers it with aluminum foil in an attempt to keep OnStar from communicating with the car?
Agreed. This will work for a while until theives catch on and come up with a way to disable OnStar's control of the car.
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:04 PM   #11
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This is the power down to idle not a full kill right? I think the media just sounds like there facts are a little crossed.

The power down keeps power steering and brakes powered up but no acceleration. Correct me if wrong pls.
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:06 PM   #12
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I am currious, can OnStar slow the car down remotely? I don't think they should be able to complete stop a car if it is moving at 70 mph it could be dangerous to other people on the road, but at least make it slow to a crawl of like, 10 mph......

OR, sense when the car has come to a complete stop (say at a stop sign), and THEN kill the engine?
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:46 PM   #13
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The "connection" to the car is through the CDMA cellphone network, not the GPS signal. Even removing the antenna may not block OnStar's ability to send low-data-rate control signals to the car.
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:51 PM   #14
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The article says it prevents the ignition from working again after it is shut off. It does not kill a running engine. Once the perp stops for a milkshake, though, he's toast.

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Old 07-22-2009, 11:54 PM   #15
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This also eliminates the aftermarket option of the 'silencer' which is that thick key below the steering column that can be removed and the car will not start no matter what.

but this is good news
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:08 AM   #16
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This also eliminates the aftermarket option of the 'silencer' which is that thick key below the steering column that can be removed and the car will not start no matter what.

but this is good news
Why would it eliminate that? It still can be used. The more layers of defense the better.

The passlock signal wire probably routes thru that silencer thing. That's the wire you normally route thru an alarm brain starter kill.
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:19 AM   #17
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To me this is scary stuff... If there was a way to disable it, I would.

So who owns most of GM right now? oh yeah, the government.
So who has access to do this and has just this much more control over you, the government.
I DO NOT want this much "big brother looking over my shoulder"
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:27 AM   #18
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To me this is scary stuff... If there was a way to disable it, I would.

So who owns most of GM right now? oh yeah, the government.
So who has access to do this and has just this much more control over you, the government.
I DO NOT want this much "big brother looking over my shoulder"
I'm with you. After seeing the abuse of power with Joe the Plumber who merely asked O a question, I can only imagine what could be done with something like this if you're registered with the "wrong" party or "they" suspect you aren't "for" them.

I'll be disabling it on mine. It's an electronic circuit with wiring; nothing more. There is a way and I'll figure it out.
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:49 AM   #19
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I'm with you. After seeing the abuse of power with Joe the Plumber who merely asked O a question, I can only imagine what could be done with something like this if you're registered with the "wrong" party or "they" suspect you aren't "for" them.

I'll be disabling it on mine. It's an electronic circuit with wiring; nothing more. There is a way and I'll figure it out.
Make a post when you do, lol.

I want that crap gone.
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:45 AM   #20
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You guys must never have had a car you care about stolen.

I think this is great and I'm very happy there is now ANOTHER measure to prevent perps from getting away with my car.
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:59 AM   #21
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When I go to work (Houston PD) and I'm parking my Camaro in Greenspoint (Nicknamed "Gunspoint") I am looking forward to that extra security. The auto theft is high in the area and I plan on purchasing a car alarm that lets me know someone's tampering with the vehicle. I said it before, my plan is to call On* right away and I get on the radio and ask any one of my co-workers closest to the Storefront to fly over there asap and severely arrest the S.O.B. trying to take/mess up my ride.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:35 AM   #22
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yeah, and if you don't make your payments they know where to find it for repo lol.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:42 AM   #23
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yeah, and if you don't make your payments they know where to find it for repo lol.
good thing I have awesome credit from making all my bills and payments all the time
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:48 AM   #24
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Wow, I can't believe some of you are actually wanting to disable this feature... This is incredible, and is one of the main reasons I will be renewing my OnStar after the first year (not to mention the emergency services part was incredibly helpful in my accident).

Stop being so paranoid... OnStar is a great service, not a freaking government conspiracy...

"OMG, that guy voted Republican! Turn off his car!"

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Old 07-23-2009, 09:54 AM   #25
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Awesome feature, if you have ever had a vehicle stolen you will not disable it. It is the most sickest feeling you can have when you come out and see that it is gone and have no clue where it is or how to find it. If they are dumb enough to drive it home thenyou will know who it is, plus the car can be tracked while it is being stolen, Awesome feature.
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